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[ezrafetch]

I'd say it was hardly a failure? I'd give it a solid 8/10, really. The game itself is a (reasonably) well-polished, coherent effort. Does it grab one like Origins does? No, but grading DA2 relative to DA:O is quite simply a tall order and really it's not how one should judge the game. Even in comparison to other Bioware games I'd consider it better than ME1. And it's miles better than the chaff that all the other studios put out now. I think overall people are, quite simply, overreacting to the fact that DA2 =/= DA:O. I also think from a place such as this, overreactions are more frequent. Sure, Bioware could have probably taken a bit more time to hash it out, but I wouldn't call DA2 a failure in the least.

[irah]

I get the feeling that they wanted to release this game quickly before the other rpg's like witcher and possibly diablo III came out.

[Dark83]

irah wrote...

I get the feeling that they wanted to release this game quickly before the other rpg's like witcher and possibly diablo III came out.

That's like saying I'm going to sell this half-baked potato now before the sun burns out. <_<

[palmetto]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Strangely Brown wrote...
 Plus, If they ceased to exist there would be no ME3 and that would be a travesty.

+1 Internet

I wholeheartedly agree with this. Although after finishing DA2 twice (third playthrough soon since they just released a big patch) I am really nervous and anxious for the Mass Effect franchise. I hope BioWare redeems themselves with Mass Effect 3. If they don't....

I predict I will not be the only lost customer that will never again buy a product with the BioWare logo attached to it.

You can also predict that purple monkeys will fall from the sky tomorrow. Doesn't mean you're accurate. There is only one consumer you have the ability to speak for: yourself. It's too bad that you purchased a game that you didn't end up enjoying, but to take your personal feelings and extrapolate it into company failure? 

Please.  

The game has faults, yes, but all in all I liked it. I connect with Hawke as a protagonist, love both the male and female voices, and feel that what the game lacks in scope it makes up for in depth of storytelling. Failure? No. Rushed? Yes. In many ways, it reminds me of The Sith Lords (I know that was an Obsidian game, but the rushed feeling I got while playing it was very similar). 

[Wye]

ezrafetch wrote...

I'd say it was hardly a failure? I'd give it a solid 8/10, really. The game itself is a (reasonably) well-polished, coherent effort. Does it grab one like Origins does? No, but grading DA2 relative to DA:O is quite simply a tall order and really it's not how one should judge the game. Even in comparison to other Bioware games I'd consider it better than ME1. And it's miles better than the chaff that all the other studios put out now. I think overall people are, quite simply, overreacting to the fact that DA2 =/= DA:O. I also think from a place such as this, overreactions are more frequent. Sure, Bioware could have probably taken a bit more time to hash it out, but I wouldn't call DA2 a failure in the least.

Took the words right out of my mouth..

[Demonhoopa]

sympathy4saren wrote...

I've heard (and understand) a lot of the negative feedback. Is it generally acknowledged that this game was a flop. Or what's the deal? And will DA2 stand a chance against Skyrim in a one-on-one comparison when its all said and done?

I'm so used to the shrieking nerd rage every time any RPG sequel comes out that I can't even tell. I just ignore the Henny Pennys, play the freaking game and decide for myself.

[shnizzler93]

No.

[LordPaul256]

Yep, failure.

From a short term financial viewpoint? Probably not. With a quick development time, they might have made a good ROI.

From a long term financial viewpoint? Maybe. There's likely to be a lot less people willing to pre-order in the future, and I've seen a lot of people who are weary of ME3 & SW:TOR that weren't before. That's hard to accurately measure, though.

From the fans perspective? Most definitely. Anytime something gets such wildly strong dislikes & likes, it usually ends up being recognized as pretty bad by a majority. (Majority. As in: If you disagree, you're in the minority. Not that your opinion is invalid). Games don't get such strong negative reviews without being a less than good game.

Finally, the word on the street - or rather the word amongst non-gamers - isn't good, either. An employee came up to me, aware that I was looking forward to DA2 a lot, and before even asking my opinion told me, "I heard DA2 was horrible. Sorry." (Loose translation). A risky way to start a conversation, but he was right.

[GeorgeZip]

No. DA2 improved alot of things from DAO like skill trees, look of gear, quality of loot, inventory space. It also fell short in areas, companion dialogue, depth of characters and story, lack of new environments especially in Act 3. If you want a better DA3 don't ignore what was good in DA2 and make them start over from scratch. Trust me you wont be happy; again.

[Bladehoth]

GeorgeZip wrote...

No. DA2 improved alot of things from DAO like skill trees, look of gear, quality of loot, inventory space. It also fell short in areas, companion dialogue, depth of characters and story, lack of new environments especially in Act 3. If you want a better DA3 don't ignore what was good in DA2 and make them start over from scratch. Trust me you wont be happy; again.

Agreed!

[Kryplixx]

No.

[Foolsfolly]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Strangely Brown wrote...
 Plus, If they ceased to exist there would be no ME3 and that would be a travesty.

+1 Internet

I wholeheartedly agree with this. Although after finishing DA2 twice (third playthrough soon since they just released a big patch) I am really nervous and anxious for the Mass Effect franchise. I hope BioWare redeems themselves with Mass Effect 3. If they don't....

I predict I will not be the only lost customer that will never again buy a product with the BioWare logo attached to it.

No, seriously, if ME3 disappoints like DA2 did...I'd probably lock myself up somewhere and cry for a month. If I survive my mourning period I will never stop bad talking this company for having fallen so far in such a short amount of time.

Was DA2 a failure?

....that's an interesting and involved question.

From my own perspective it was a disappointment. It's not a horrible game, I've played many horrible games. It's just not good either. It's buggy, short, disjointed, and unsatisfying.

It's too busy setting up another story to actually sit down and tell a story.

It's got many flaws, but it also has redeemable qualities. Overall, a disappointment but not a bad or great game. I wouldn't call it a good game either, but certainly good enough for a rent.

Was it a failure fincially? Well, we see the 7 week numbers and I've got to say....it's probably not in the red. Why? Short development cycle means the game was cheaper to make, and damn if that isn't apparent throughout the game. So it takes less sales to make a profit off of it.

Was a failure critically? No. There's negative reviews, as there should be, but it appears the general critical consensus appears to be more "it's fine" and less "burn it with fire" that you'd assume from a failure.

So, I don't think it's a failure. I think it's a disappointment and a mediocre game. I think there's better games out there to spend your money and time on.

[UltiPup]

I like to think its half and half at the moment. Not everyone thinks its great, not everyone thinks its terrible. To be honest, this is probably a good point for Bioware to have. Its not a total failure so they can still raise their heads.

[Insertwittynamehere]

I think we're giving the game too high expectations considering who's behind it

[kiera embers]

not a failure just a dissapointment

[MassEffect762]

To me it's more of the same EA taint that's keeping Bioware shackled in chains of mediocrity.

I don't see how they will survive such a master.


On a side note I saw that new RockStar game called L.A. Noire and was pretty impressed by what I saw.(especially because it's RockStar)
It seems they're trying to go new places and do somthing special. That was my initial impression anyways.

Modifié par MassEffect762, 30 avril 2011 - 01:54 .

[Oopsieoops]

For crying out loud, just look at the sales, the price drop, and the bundling of ME2. Then look at the sales again after all the effort, and then say with a straight face this game wasn't an utter failure.

[DragonAgeFanatiiic]

It was a financial success. But to players who indulged themselves in the Dragon Age universe it was a heart heartbreaking failure.

We can see graphical & combat improvements do the sequel justice.. but apart from that, the game is ridiculously disappointing.

Overall I think it is accepted that the game was a lukewarm entertainment title for new comers & a slap in the face for Dragon Age fans who were going to buy the game either way. .. Sign.. =(

[Nimpe]

Who the hell keeps bumping this?