Deztyn wrote...
But what kind of book? Was it 'How to Gain Unlimited Power in Three Pints or Less'? Was it 'How to a Trick a Demon into Teaching You a Forbidden School of Magic Without Selling Your Soul'? Was it a book of magic? Or a magical book?
Or a book like the ones we buy in stores to get most specializations in DAO?
demonpig wrote...
i would have forgave him but he killed Grand Cleric Elthina and many defenceless people that bastard something had to change but he could have blown up the templar hedquaters that would have worked the same mabey even better to demoralise the templars or he could have killed merideth shown the mages that they could have won without killing innocents and the mages would not have had to resort to blood magic, but it worked (kind of) i can see what he tried to do but he had many better choices
I disagree. Firstly, if you're trying to free some allies in a prison, you don't blow up the prison. That kills them too. Also, blowing up the Chantry will arguably be more likely to sway public opinion for the mages. I know that sounds ridiculous at first but hear me out. If Anders blew up a bunch of templars and the mages escaped, everyone would just freak out at a bunch of possibly blood mages on the loose. If he blows up the Chantry, Meredith will invoke the Right of Annulment (he can't know this for certain, but it's the highly likely scenario) and the mages along with Hawke's crew most likely, will have to fight the attacking templars. By letting Meredith have power to invoke the RoA he has shown the world the templar's true colors.
Or simply put, his blowing up the Chantry allows the templars to still be viewed as the bad guys because they're trying to kill hundreds or thousands of people, even children, for something one man that wasn't even among them did. If he blew up the templars in the Gallows, even if he could do so without killing the mages, then the templars would come out looking like the victims. The public would be solidly behind the templars in that case. In this case, while much of the public is still brainwashed by the Chantry's fearmongering, a lot of them will also go "they tried to annul the circle because of one apostate? what the hell?"
He even realizes it's pretty much evil when you get right down to it. He just feels, and I agree, that there will be far less suffering in the long run by forcing the fight for freedom now than letting the tyranny continue. He doesn't want to die to be a martyr so another generation of suicide bombers will scream his name as they attack civilians, instead he accepts death as a punishment for killing innocent people even if it was for the greater good. Justice is twisted by his anger, but his sense of honor is not totally destroyed despite what the "omg terrorist!" crowd paints him as.
tiernanls wrote...
and as far as what really constitutes a demon its really as simple as the game designers there as well. when youre attacking a desire demon it doesnt say "desire". its says "desire DEMON" so on and so forth for all of them. this is consistent throughout the games. just like how when youre in the mage origin and you encounter a spirit of valor it doesnt say "valor demon" or even "valor spirit". it just says "valor". same with justice in the fade in awakenings. so you can go round and round with this argument all you want. any logical person would just go with what the game designers and writers are obvioulsy telling us.
Very well put. I'm surprised how many people are buying the whole "demons and spirits aren't any different" thing because Merrill says so. They're galaxies apart.
without exception every person who uses blood magic in the dragon age world ends up causing somethign bad out of selfishness with the one and ONLY exception of the player themselves.
I don't know about that... Avernus didn't have selfish goals. He did a lot of bad, certainly not going to deny that. His goals were selfless though. He did extend his own life with blood magic, but he was doing so with experiments he intends to use to help the entire Grey Warden order. I'm sure there are many other Wardens who use blood magic selflessly; the entire order flatly refuses to condemn it and says "if it helps us kill darkspawn, it's cool with us." Merrill's goals weren't selfish either. She wanted better for her people even if it meant her own death. She was mindblowingly stupid about it, but she wasn't out for personal gain. Or Alain. I guess you could call it selfish because he didn't want to be raped in prison anymore, but I think he certainly qualifies as a good guy. The only reason we even know for sure he knows blood magic is because it was the only way to wake Carver/Bethany/whomever.
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