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[didymos1120]

Sparroww wrote...

You get to show some emotion of your actions to Hackett at the end depending on choice and as a ME3 prelude I'm sure there will be a reprise of Arrival in terms of how it emotionally affected your Shepard.

And there is that hesitation before "pushing the button", and that scene where Shep just quietly watches the devastation spread from Alpha to engulf the system and then shies away from the image at the very last.  No, it's not a lot or "big", but I think it's enough given how short a span we're talking about here.  I mean, as I see it, the decision either would have just totally paralyzed Shep outright, or it just plain wouldn't have been allowed to get through, because Shep had to keep functioning and had to do this thing NOW.

And yeah,I think it'll end up being sort of like the DA thing: Shep doesn't react much to that choice in ME1 (really, at all), but you get a pretty good sense of what it meant to him/her in ME2 when talking to Al-Jilani again (unless of course you punched her for lulz).  Maybe that makes it poor drama for some, but I can't say I mind.

Modifié par didymos1120, 03 avril 2011 - 12:13 .

[Jzadek72]

mrsph wrote...

Jzadek72 wrote...

Except normally, she's allowed to have an opinion. Obviously, she has to destroy the relay in the end, they can only give you so much freedom to characterise Shepard. But in arrival, there was none. And in an RPG, that's a pretty major flaw.

I'm forced to be friends with Liara in LotSB. Which is worse (for me anyway)

Well, that's a bit different, as the only reason to start the mission would be to help Liara, and if you're not her friend, you'd be unlikely to. With my renegade, I gave the mission a complete miss.

[Reiella]

Sparroww wrote...

LotSB set a really high standard and as Arrival was supposed to be a bridging DLC for ME3 it simply wasn't as epic or enjoyable as most people expected.

Personally enjoyed it myself, would rate it just under LotSB imo and definitely one of the better ME2 DLC's. And by the time ME3 comes out people will have forgotten about Arrival simply because it was supposed to tease you for the finale in 3.

Well, I think that aspect is actually very important.  Shepard does get a choice.  This time, with no meta-game need or percieved need to 'game' the decision.  It's simply a choice.

[2kgnsiika]

Arrival was a good piece of entertainment, but when it's supposed to be the final DLC for the greatest game of the decade people (including me) tend to have pretty high expectations...

[didymos1120]

mrsph wrote...

LotSB, like Arrival, is canon. It will have always happened no matter what.

I'm not so sure about Lair as far as Shep being involved.  It's safe to say Liara's the Broker no matter what, though.

[HappyHappyJoyJoy]

Can someone explain why the forces on the Asteroid didn't just... well, shoot Shepard in the head while he was out cold for two days?

[HappyHappyJoyJoy]

mrsph wrote...

HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...

Can someone explain why the forces on the Asteroid didn't just... well, shoot Shepard in the head while he was out cold for two days?

Because the Reapers want Shepard.

And if they killed Shepard the plot would end.

Every time they want Shepard, he somehow breaks out/comes back from the dead/etc. and manages to foil their plans.  You'd think a near-omniscient species which has killed trillions of organics over millions of years would know better than to leave him in a lab with a machine that can be used to control armed mechs.

They were about a half-hour from coming back to conquer the galaxy and win again.  Who cares about Shepard?

[Devbo22]

Maybe the reapers have some weird sense of honor?

[IamSithari]

I think its truely made to play a certain way, for instance in what order u recruit your team members and how you choose to do their missions, and how you weave the DLCs into the main story you'll gain a much richer experience. And arrival was great. It wasnt too long drawn out like overlord was but it it did lack the indepth non-shepard character driven story like with liara in LotSB. Harbringer on the otherhand was a nice surprise at the end. Kinda wish it was someone we know from the canon that we had to save, but it was worth playing.

[IamSithari]

Maybe bioware decided to limit it because its better if they saved the better stuff for ME3. I can wait for the triology.

[IamSithari]

mrsph wrote...

Plot induced stupidity.

If the Reapers just decided to kill Shepard off in Arrival then the story would be over.

hence why harbringer wanted him probed because he's so annoying.

[JamieCOTC]

Why the Reapers want Shep, my theory is that resistance is futile. 

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

HEH!

[Seboist]

As much as I liked Arrival there quite a bit of things about it that were half assed such as:

1. Lack of a Batarian four eyed helmet. This was the biggest eye sore of the whole thing and ruined the whole immersion that my Shep was on a Batarian planet fighting.... Batarians. They could have even used the helmet that one Batarian mechanic uses in Garrus' recruitment mission.

2. Lack of a unique Batarian shuttle. Although not as bad as the before mentioned helmet issue seeing a repainted Cerberus shuttle was an annoyance in it's own right.

3. Lack of a genuine prison outfit for Kenson.

4. Joker not saying anything at the end when he picks up Shep.

[Shirosaki17]

HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...

mrsph wrote...

HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...

Can someone explain why the forces on the Asteroid didn't just... well, shoot Shepard in the head while he was out cold for two days?

Because the Reapers want Shepard.

And if they killed Shepard the plot would end.

Every time they want Shepard, he somehow breaks out/comes back from the dead/etc. and manages to foil their plans.  You'd think a near-omniscient species which has killed trillions of organics over millions of years would know better than to leave him in a lab with a machine that can be used to control armed mechs.

They were about a half-hour from coming back to conquer the galaxy and win again.  Who cares about Shepard?

They could have sealed Shepard in a room. They could have taken the project apart so Shepard didn't have to press a button to activate it. They could have done a lot of stuff. It just really was underwhelming.

[HBC Dresden]

didymos1120 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

LotSB, like Arrival, is canon. It will have always happened no matter what.

I'm not so sure about Lair as far as Shep being involved.  It's safe to say Liara's the Broker no matter what, though.

How do you figure? I've haven't seen enough information to arrive at the solid conclusion that Liara becomes the Broker no matter what. Design can change and on top of that, BioWare hasn't said anything definite to go on without jumping to conclusions.

[HappyHappyJoyJoy]

Shirosaki17 wrote...

HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...

mrsph wrote...

HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...

Can someone explain why the forces on the Asteroid didn't just... well, shoot Shepard in the head while he was out cold for two days?

Because the Reapers want Shepard.

And if they killed Shepard the plot would end.

Every time they want Shepard, he somehow breaks out/comes back from the dead/etc. and manages to foil their plans.  You'd think a near-omniscient species which has killed trillions of organics over millions of years would know better than to leave him in a lab with a machine that can be used to control armed mechs.

They were about a half-hour from coming back to conquer the galaxy and win again.  Who cares about Shepard?

They could have sealed Shepard in a room. They could have taken the project apart so Shepard didn't have to press a button to activate it. They could have done a lot of stuff. It just really was underwhelming.

They also could have just killed Shepard.  We have resurrection tech now, after all. 

[Gabey5]

complainers tend to make many threads to complain

[008Zulu]

I quite liked it. As a short DLC I thought it worked fairly well. If your looking to stop the Reaper invasion there will be a sense of urgency to stop it as soon as possible.

Still, it didnt stop me from firing Cain at the relay purely for giggles.

[Turnip Root]

I think in my case my expectations weren't so astronomical for two reasons.

1.The DLC was cheaper than LOTSB and usually you get what you pay for.

2.Gamespot's 5.0 review as well as many angry comments on these forums.

There really is only so much you can expect from a low priced DLC and for what it's worth I think Arrival is an excellent addition to Mass Effect 2.

[ShepardsAssassin]

I really have to agree with you.
When i first saw the reviews i was expecting a major disappointment, but when i played it i just can´t agree with all these negative reviews.
It wasn´t that good as Shadow Broker, but still it was amazing for seven dolars.

[sponge56]

I think the fans hyped Arrival up far to much, they made it out to be this amazing, ridiculous experience which would go way beyond what is expected of a DLC. If I remember correctly when Bioware actually released the details of the DLC they explicitly said it was both a side mission and setting up the beginning of ME3, which is exactly what it did. I for one loved every second of it. The fans who didn't like it seem to have only themselves to blame for expecting to much