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Twofold Black

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There is geometry under there. There are, however, obstacles. Primarily in the form of this big flat spot in the normal map:

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The horizontal discontinuity you see in the middle there is a seam in the UVs. One side is significantly higher-resolution than the other. I'd have to actually look at the geometry to speculate as to what the rationale there is. Also, the hood looks ridiculous like this, and those two straps around the torso disappear into nothing. This is a job for someone with e.g. ZBrush who actually cares about removing the bevor from this armor. I did this as a proof of concept.

The warrior armor is arguably easier to remove the bevor from, since the base isn't visible anyway, except that (a) this gives that scarf business on the warplate the appearance of being stretched out around nothing at all (this would be easy to fix in the geometry by just knocking that business inwards to lie flat against the chest, but when we can do that we won't be having the frigging crumbcatcher discussion three times a day) and (B) the warplate doesn't appear to, uh, call the alpha map. I'm probably just missing something here. I've fiddled around in the item properties and the issue isn't there. Insight would be welcome.

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The Morrigan

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I'm surprised no one's replied to this, considering all the furore about the "crumbcatchers". Is there anyway to replace it with something, in that case? Perhaps copy part of a different armour and paste it in its place?

Forgive me if this is a stupid question; my knowledge of mesh editing is pretty slim.

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The Morrigan wrote...
 Is there anyway to replace it with something, in that case? Perhaps copy part of a different armour and paste it in its place?


Or could you just shrink it? Bend it? Reshape it?

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Killjoy Cutter

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A flat plate without the "crumbcatcher" would work too... and have some functional legitimacy, being over the center of the upper chest.

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mousestalker

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Thanks for doing this. Hopefully someone with mad fanart skills will pick up this ball and run with it.

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The Morrigan wrote...

I'm surprised no one's replied to this, considering all the furore about the "crumbcatchers". Is there anyway to replace it with something, in that case? Perhaps copy part of a different armour and paste it in its place?

Forgive me if this is a stupid question; my knowledge of mesh editing is pretty slim.


I think the lack of apparent interest is because I didn't actually release it as a mod. I don't see the point, because as-is it looks like ass, but if anyone's interested I'd be happy to release the bevor-removing alpha map. There are some fiddly back polygons that took me a long time to find and get rid of.

Once we've worked out how to import models into the game, altering or replacing the bevor will certainly be possible, but (to my knowledge) no one has figured out model import yet. That's why this is relevant -- making the bevor transparent (which is what I've done here. It's still there, you just can't see it) is currently the only way to get rid of it.