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My annoying complaint of the week : why does male Hawke have to be a muscle mass when fem Hawke gets to be normally fit ?


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I call it discrimination against us normal, steroid-free vegetarian geeks.Posted Image

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Go play a game about some wimpy ass dude who orders a salad at a restaurant when he takes a chick out on a date.

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BhallSpawn1011 wrote...

Go play a game about some wimpy ass dude who orders a salad at a restaurant when he takes a chick out on a date.

Between this post and the other one you just started re: all the men in the DA world being "gay," I reeallly doubt you have much experience with "chicks" or dates.  Sorry, friend.

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Hey im just pointing out that dragon age 2 with hawkes posh british accent is already lacking in masculunity as it is. Sorry if I "offended you" (quotes added for emphasis). I guess there are some ****** like you that don't mind the game having no masculinity. Doesn't surprise me really, that picture suggests that deep down your an asexual nerd with no masculinity that just plays video games. BRING ON THE FLAME WAR!!!!

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Mage Hawke in The Champion armor as Dom from Gears sized arms. ALL WE NEED IS THE TRAIN BABY!

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Because of Fable II - people won't play men who aren't muscly or women who are.

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hawke had muscle? he look like any average joe 180 lbs.

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lol what're you talking about femhawke is pretty curvy like a model or something... she's not 'normal' either.

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Hunter Stenwulf wrote...

lol what're you talking about femhawke is pretty curvy like a model or something... she's not 'normal' either.


I don't mean ugly normal, I mean fit but in a normal way. Femhawke doesn't look like she's on steroids, that's what I mean. I just find it cliched that the male character always has to have unnecessarily huge arms. Makes him look more like a guy who spent too much time at the gym than an actual warrior, let alone a mage.

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Lol I kind of find it amusing. I think Avalene fits the masculine female mode.. After all Isabella tells her she has man hands..Cracked me up.

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Increased muscle mass is rather handy in a fight y'know, that's why there are weight classes in professional fighting <_<

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Mage robes and leather armor look ridiculous on the super muscular hawke, but on the other hand he pulls of the massive armor just fine.

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good point.but come to think of it,if bioware made fem hawke more muscular then....she would have ended up looking exactly like Aveline.with manly arms.

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Actually I thought he was a little bit light on the muscle.

Modifié par Peer of the Empire, 03 avril 2011 - 06:35 .


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Personally, I think musculature should depend upon the class the player picks, rather than gender. A female warrior in heavy armor would have to be a lot more buff than fem Hawk is, and any rogue should have a wirey build... not bulky, but lots of lean muscle. Meges moth male and female should be in good athletic shape, but not all that muscular.

I'm not surprised they didn't even bother trying this level of realism for 2, but it would be really cool to see variety like this in the bodies in future games.

No excuse for Isabella not wearing armor and looking like a stripper when she's supposed to be an extremely formidable and proud dualist, though. Way to cheapen a strong female character just to give fanboys some T&A to ogle.

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EccentricSage wrote...

Personally, I think musculature should depend upon the class the player picks, rather than gender. A female warrior in heavy armor would have to be a lot more buff than fem Hawk is, and any rogue should have a wirey build... not bulky, but lots of lean muscle. Meges moth male and female should be in good athletic shape, but not all that muscular.

I'm not surprised they didn't even bother trying this level of realism for 2, but it would be really cool to see variety like this in the bodies in future games.

No excuse for Isabella not wearing armor and looking like a stripper when she's supposed to be an extremely formidable and proud dualist, though. Way to cheapen a strong female character just to give fanboys some T&A to ogle.

 Sailors weren't really known for wearing armor for starters and she's the highest dps toon ingame. I think that makes her pretty formidable imo.

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nijnij wrote...

Hunter Stenwulf wrote...

lol what're you talking about femhawke is pretty curvy like a model or something... she's not 'normal' either.


I don't mean ugly normal, I mean fit but in a normal way. Femhawke doesn't look like she's on steroids, that's what I mean. I just find it cliched that the male character always has to have unnecessarily huge arms. Makes him look more like a guy who spent too much time at the gym than an actual warrior, let alone a mage.


warriors bring heavy swords and heavy armors.....so it's normal for them to have a muscular body.....every medieval movie in the history had muscular warriors....if your problem is about mages...than blame bioware cause they shared the same body model for all classes....

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Because I guess some of us nerds don't understand it takes alot of muscle mass too use any medival gear..... What the hell does it matter anyway? Your just a stupid troll nitpicking at a game that's already been picked too the bones sell the game back too gamestop and delete your bioware account if you don't like how "muscular" your dude is......

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kcman5 wrote...

EccentricSage wrote...

Personally, I think musculature should depend upon the class the player picks, rather than gender. A female warrior in heavy armor would have to be a lot more buff than fem Hawk is, and any rogue should have a wirey build... not bulky, but lots of lean muscle. Meges moth male and female should be in good athletic shape, but not all that muscular.

I'm not surprised they didn't even bother trying this level of realism for 2, but it would be really cool to see variety like this in the bodies in future games.

No excuse for Isabella not wearing armor and looking like a stripper when she's supposed to be an extremely formidable and proud dualist, though. Way to cheapen a strong female character just to give fanboys some T&A to ogle.

 Sailors weren't really known for wearing armor for starters and she's the highest dps toon ingame. I think that makes her pretty formidable imo.


It's retarded for her to go into battle in stripper wear, just sayn'.  And I've done research on female pirates.  Some wore normal clothes, others wore leather armor mixed with cloths, they didn't run around looking like hookers.

And I love Isabella, just to be clear.  I just hate that the art team decided that because she's a woman who's comfortable with her sexuality, that this is the character to sleez up for cheap T&A material.  <_<

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EccentricSage wrote...

kcman5 wrote...

EccentricSage wrote...

Personally, I think musculature should depend upon the class the player picks, rather than gender. A female warrior in heavy armor would have to be a lot more buff than fem Hawk is, and any rogue should have a wirey build... not bulky, but lots of lean muscle. Meges moth male and female should be in good athletic shape, but not all that muscular.

I'm not surprised they didn't even bother trying this level of realism for 2, but it would be really cool to see variety like this in the bodies in future games.

No excuse for Isabella not wearing armor and looking like a stripper when she's supposed to be an extremely formidable and proud dualist, though. Way to cheapen a strong female character just to give fanboys some T&A to ogle.

 Sailors weren't really known for wearing armor for starters and she's the highest dps toon ingame. I think that makes her pretty formidable imo.


It's retarded for her to go into battle in stripper wear, just sayn'.  And I've done research on female pirates.  Some wore normal clothes, others wore leather armor mixed with cloths, they didn't run around looking like hookers.

And I love Isabella, just to be clear.  I just hate that the art team decided that because she's a woman who's comfortable with her sexuality, that this is the character to sleez up for cheap T&A material.  <_<

 Lol..Somene had to be the "Fall guy" chalk it up as to taking one for the team. Would Avalene or Merryl looked any better in her getup? Nah. DAO had it's eyecandy as well.

Modifié par kcman5, 03 avril 2011 - 07:50 .


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kcman5 wrote...

EccentricSage wrote...

kcman5 wrote...

EccentricSage wrote...

Personally, I think musculature should depend upon the class the player picks, rather than gender. A female warrior in heavy armor would have to be a lot more buff than fem Hawk is, and any rogue should have a wirey build... not bulky, but lots of lean muscle. Meges moth male and female should be in good athletic shape, but not all that muscular.

I'm not surprised they didn't even bother trying this level of realism for 2, but it would be really cool to see variety like this in the bodies in future games.

No excuse for Isabella not wearing armor and looking like a stripper when she's supposed to be an extremely formidable and proud dualist, though. Way to cheapen a strong female character just to give fanboys some T&A to ogle.

 Sailors weren't really known for wearing armor for starters and she's the highest dps toon ingame. I think that makes her pretty formidable imo.


It's retarded for her to go into battle in stripper wear, just sayn'.  And I've done research on female pirates.  Some wore normal clothes, others wore leather armor mixed with cloths, they didn't run around looking like hookers.

And I love Isabella, just to be clear.  I just hate that the art team decided that because she's a woman who's comfortable with her sexuality, that this is the character to sleez up for cheap T&A material.  <_<

 Lol..Somene had to be the "Fall guy" chalk it up as to taking one for the team. Would Avalene or Merryl looked any better in her getup? Nah. DAO had it's eyecandy as well.


Morrigan's outfit didn't bother me because for one thing she is a mage, her general goal is not melee combat, and also because she didn't play it up.  It seemed like the Chasind also simply have rather kinky tastes.  It was true in Origins for both male and females.  We got to oggle Morrigan's cleavage, we got to oggle Zevran's sexy thighs.  Fair enough.

With 2, it's like they really cheapened a good character just to give some fanboys who don't know how to find free porn something to ****** over.  Not to mention it's pants on head retarded for Isabella's style of combat.  A woman with large ****** and no support around them would likely find herself IN PAIN, or else find them getting in the way.  Trust me, I know from personal experience.  I have no issue with her being SEXY, but make her be sexy in some sexy leather armor that excentuates her ample curves while still being reasonably practical.  Hell, it probably would have been MORE arousing than the stupid thing she's wearing now.  And I have NO problems with getting aroused by Isabella, being bi myself.

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Rixxencaxx wrote...

nijnij wrote...

Hunter Stenwulf wrote...

lol what're you talking about femhawke is pretty curvy like a model or something... she's not 'normal' either.


I don't mean ugly normal, I mean fit but in a normal way. Femhawke doesn't look like she's on steroids, that's what I mean. I just find it cliched that the male character always has to have unnecessarily huge arms. Makes him look more like a guy who spent too much time at the gym than an actual warrior, let alone a mage.


warriors bring heavy swords and heavy armors.....so it's normal for them to have a muscular body.....every medieval movie in the history had muscular warriors....if your problem is about mages...than blame bioware cause they shared the same body model for all classes....


Actually... In real medievel times, armor & swords were quite light. A tipacal browd sword waighed around 3 pounds, while the armor was articulated as to to be very easy to move in. So... Warriors wouldnt of needed muscles for armor but they had them rather as to be able to react faster & fight for longer periods of time.

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I think they should make the warrior female more muscular - she looks tawny and weird with her two hander (unless the armour covers it up).

While Mage/Rogue Male Hawk looks too brawny for having 10 in Strength.

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DAO MAdhatter wrote...

Rixxencaxx wrote...

nijnij wrote...

Hunter Stenwulf wrote...

lol what're you talking about femhawke is pretty curvy like a model or something... she's not 'normal' either.


I don't mean ugly normal, I mean fit but in a normal way. Femhawke doesn't look like she's on steroids, that's what I mean. I just find it cliched that the male character always has to have unnecessarily huge arms. Makes him look more like a guy who spent too much time at the gym than an actual warrior, let alone a mage.


warriors bring heavy swords and heavy armors.....so it's normal for them to have a muscular body.....every medieval movie in the history had muscular warriors....if your problem is about mages...than blame bioware cause they shared the same body model for all classes....


Actually... In real medievel times, armor & swords were quite light. A tipacal browd sword waighed around 3 pounds, while the armor was articulated as to to be very easy to move in. So... Warriors wouldnt of needed muscles for armor but they had them rather as to be able to react faster & fight for longer periods of time.


That depends uppon the type of warrior.  There were knights in the past who did wear very heavy plait and chainmail with heavy leather layers underneath.  Sword size and weight also varries widely depending uppon style of the sword and the style of combat.  You simply can not make a two handed sword weigh 3 lb. and have it be an effective weapon.

What you describe sounds more like the Roman armor, which would be more of a light-to-medium armor and had serious weeknesses if their enemy gets past their heavy sheilds.  They were very susceptable to ambush or to being flanked, and Sparticus and his fellows wiped out an entire army with fire arrows that acted like napalm when they hit the leather under-structure of the armor.

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Yep got to agree, the Warriors had to have help dawning their armor, aka Squires. And when most fell down, wearing Full Plate, they couldn't get back up too easily..Very cumbersome and bulky indeed.