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[Lotion Soronarr]

3-3.5 kg for large two-handers actually...

[Finnigan McBonk]

Cowboy_christo wrote...

hawke had muscle? he look like any average joe 180 lbs.

What I thought. Muscle mass??? Where? I mean, he looks a bit more fit than the average male. The TC is correct: this is an annoying complaint.

[Peer of the Empire]

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Modifié par Peer of the Empire, 04 avril 2011 - 02:19 .

[Jademoon121]

Hawke looks fit and....formed, kinda what you'd expect from someone fighting every few minutes. He doesn't look anything like the muscle heads in GOW or the human guys in WoW.

[wowpwnslol]

Female Hawke is the best. Curvy, feisty and totally badass. For best results, pick aggressive option every time.

[BhallSpawn1011]

Hawke should have looked like Jason Stratham

[randName]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

3) Other games provide different body builds. So it's not impossible.

Talked about this earlier in the thread, but its worth repeating, over and over.

Should have been to easy, just add a blendshape to allow arms/legs get larger, and potentially a blend texture as well for tone.

Most armours already got a minimum strength, and they could be built to fit that, for both female and male Hawk.


You would end up making the animations even more generic animations, since they now have to fit more body types, but then some more animation wouldn't be too much to ask for.

Modifié par randName, 11 avril 2011 - 08:17 .

[The Metalion]

The game should be more true-to-life. The femHawkes should gain about 40 lbs during the 10 years.

[Zkyire]

nijnij wrote...

I call it discrimination against us normal, steroid-free vegetarian geeks.

There's a reason why soldiers are in good shape, and not skinny.

[Dragoonlordz]

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

Rixxencaxx wrote...

nijnij wrote...

Hunter Stenwulf wrote...

lol what're you talking about femhawke is pretty curvy like a model or something... she's not 'normal' either.

I don't mean ugly normal, I mean fit but in a normal way. Femhawke doesn't look like she's on steroids, that's what I mean. I just find it cliched that the male character always has to have unnecessarily huge arms. Makes him look more like a guy who spent too much time at the gym than an actual warrior, let alone a mage.

warriors bring heavy swords and heavy armors.....so it's normal for them to have a muscular body.....every medieval movie in the history had muscular warriors....if your problem is about mages...than blame bioware cause they shared the same body model for all classes....

Actually... In real medievel times, armor & swords were quite light. A tipacal browd sword waighed around 3 pounds, while the armor was articulated as to to be very easy to move in. So... Warriors wouldnt of needed muscles for armor but they had them rather as to be able to react faster & fight for longer periods of time.

You have obviously never put on chain mail. It's freaking heavy...

[JabbaDaHutt30]

I don't think having more muscle mass necessarily means that you're fitter than a thinner person... just a guess.

[JabbaDaHutt30]

Finnigan McBonk wrote...

Cowboy_christo wrote...

hawke had muscle? he look like any average joe 180 lbs.

What I thought. Muscle mass??? Where? I mean, he looks a bit more fit than the average male. The TC is correct: this is an annoying complaint.

a bit more fit than the average male? amazing how I find fitness experts in places I'd least expect to...

[Zkyire]

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

I don't think having more muscle mass necessarily means that you're fitter than a thinner person... just a guess.

Uh.. yes it does.

[ChickenDownUnder]

Actually, Jabba has a point to a certain degree. While a bodybuilder type would be able to lift more, since that's basically what they've trained themselves to do, they're incapable of running faster and longer than the skinny guy trained to be a professional runner/swimmer/whatever.

Having more muscle mass just means you are more physically stronger, not necessarily more fit and athletic.

[Zkyire]

ChickenDownUnder wrote...

Actually, Jabba has a point to a certain degree. While a bodybuilder type would be able to lift more, since that's basically what they've trained themselves to do, they're incapable of running faster and longer than the skinny guy trained to be a professional runner/swimmer/whatever.

Having more muscle mass just means you are more physically stronger, not necessarily more fit and athletic.

That is true. But judging by his other post (the one he made directly after it) his "thinner" people seem to mean average people, as opposed to athletes.

[ChickenDownUnder]

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

ChickenDownUnder wrote...

Actually, Jabba has a point to a certain degree. While a bodybuilder type would be able to lift more, since that's basically what they've trained themselves to do, they're incapable of running faster and longer than the skinny guy trained to be a professional runner/swimmer/whatever.

Having more muscle mass just means you are more physically stronger, not necessarily more fit and athletic.

That is true. But judging by his other post (the one he made directly after it) his "thinner" people seem to mean average people, as opposed to athletes.

Yeah, that is why I said to a certain degree. His initial idea was right, but his actual reasoning behind it was a bit off.

[Tripedius]

All women should look like the female hawk. Women that don't should go less to the big M or BK and lay off on the chrisps, chocolate and other fat, sugary things. Come girls it's all about will power.

[Adara]

I think his muscular arms are pretty normal..especially for a warrior who wields heavy swords and shields. Lifting those weapons are bound to build up muscle after so many years of it.

[randName]

Gremnock wrote...

I think his muscular arms are pretty normal..especially for a warrior who wields heavy swords and shields. Lifting those weapons are bound to build up muscle after so many years of it.

The problem is that Mage and Rogue Male hawks are also of the same muscular build, and Female Hawks are all of the same light build, one that would fit for Male Hawk Mages, and partly Rogues as well, but not for a strength 50 Female Warrior Hawk at all ~

They really need to losen up those one-size fits all ideas over at BioWare.



That said a female Hawk in the stonehammer armour, or later the champion amour, does look decent. Nor do I want oversized bodybuilders like Resident Evil V arms with triceps that can win wars on their own - more like -- vv
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Modifié par randName, 11 avril 2011 - 02:25 .

[Seena]

I actually have a problem with Lady Hawke (as a warrior) having noodle arms and stick legs.

[Dark83]

If your armor is heavy enough that you can't easily get up in combat, you're wearing the wrong kind of armor. I'm just saying.

The reason we had knights in plate dying from being unable to get up was because of the deep mud at Agincourt, not because their armor in general would prevent them from getting up.

Otherwise your one big weakness would be getting knocked down. They wouldn't ever have to bother trying to hurt you through your armor, they'd just need to get two guys to tackle you.and you'd be done.

[Weltea]

Male Hawke is not a "muscle mass". Like fem Hawke he looks absolutely "normally fit"!!!
If you can't see that I'd suggest you move to another town ;D



Besides,I wouldn't care if male Hawke actually was"over the top" (which he's not) simply because then maybe they'd see that women complaining about this happening with female characters aren't just being oversensitive (especially since all the post I have seen on this topic by guys so far have all been incredibly whiny)

[randName]

Weltea wrote...

Male Hawke is not a "muscle mass". Like fem Hawke he looks absolutely "normally fit"!!!
If you can't see that I'd suggest you move to another town ;D



Besides,I wouldn't care if male Hawke actually was"over the top" (which he's not) simply because then maybe they'd see that women complaining about this happening with female characters aren't just being oversensitive (especially since all the post I have seen on this topic by guys so far have all been incredibly whiny)

the male Warrior is fine, and Carver is too - Fenris is actually more of an issue, but anyway ~ Lyrium tattoos.



The problem is more that females with strength 50 has so much less muscle mass than a male mage, or warrior, with a strength of 10.

& Female warriors, unless you are playing with some strange build will get two thirds to half of their stat points to strength, yet they got twig like arms, while male mages and rogues won't place anything on Strength and they got more bulk.

& It's mostly lazy design from BioWares side.

Modifié par randName, 11 avril 2011 - 04:27 .

[Romantiq]

hmm, looks like a body of someone who has been doing a little too much of

[Ygolnac]

Mage hawke in champion armor has ridicously super macho muscled arms. This is bad design for the lore (mages pass the majority of their time studyng and not excercising), bad becoiuse if you equip a normal robe his arms become normal again, and simply bad visually speacking. There's nothing to do with masculinity and such.