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After much testing... final answer on Leliana Romance.


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JoeBPlenty

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It took me a while of experimentation, having seen several posts both on the old forums and on this one Many people are confused about what to do to initialize the Leliana Romance.

I was a bit confused by this, since in my first playthrough it seemed to go completely automatic just by picking random responses, but I have now concluded what it takes as male 'and' female and discovered the triggers are different.

For a male character, the pivotal moment appears to be during the "What was a girl like you, doing in Lothering Chantry?" question that you can ask her as soon as she joins. You must flatter her with the "You know, a beautiful charming woman like yourself." line and then be careful not to talk about her 'fruit'. This is the absolutely most important part for a male character, since if you ask her about her 'fruit' being forbidden, you have blown the romance. You must instead say "Those initiates can't have been more lovely than you.". After you do this, Leliana will begin to romance your character.

Now for female, it is different. During the same line of questions, you 'can' ask her if her fruit is forbidden and it will not break the romance at all, because the romance seems to trigger at a different point. Once you get 50+ approval with her as a female, she will initiate a conversation complimenting your hair... THIS is the romance make or break question and your response will dictate wether or not she will start romancing you. Just be appreciative and flirt with her and most answers lead to the same conclusion.

Hope this helps someone who are still struggling with this issue. I am pretty sure these are the triggering questions, having tried many variations through many strategic saves. ( and a bundle of high approval gifts in stock ).

Modifié par JoeBPlenty, 18 novembre 2009 - 09:46 .


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WickedAwesome

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Thank you; the worst part is if you don't start that romance with her, she says almost nothing at camp for the rest of the game ):<

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Iggynous

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i just gave her some small white flowers, and badda bing

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JoeBPlenty

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Iggynous wrote...

i just gave her some small white flowers, and badda bing


Actually, that is all part of the 'friend' chain of events. That particular gift does not lead to romance.

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Memengwa

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I didn't romance her, and she still had a lot to say, as a friend.

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WickedAwesome

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Memengwa wrote...

I didn't romance her, and she still had a lot to say, as a friend.

Oh man, the only time I really got her to say something was when I gave her an Andraste flower. Then we talked about shoes and that was the end of it xD

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balu1982

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Actually i asked about her fruit and could romance her nevertheless.

Modifié par balu1982, 18 novembre 2009 - 09:52 .


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JoeBPlenty

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balu1982 wrote...

Actually i asked about her fruit and could romance her nevertheless.


If you play female, then yes you can.

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I play as a male.

Modifié par balu1982, 18 novembre 2009 - 09:53 .


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JoeBPlenty

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balu1982 wrote...

I play as a male,


That goes against all my testing. Picking that option and letting the game advance put that character square in the friend zone forever.

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balu1982

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I am absolutely sure that i took this conversation path, because i thought it was funny.



Afterwards i was polite at every occasion.



After like 50 Approval Rating she also triggered some conversation when i entered the camp. I think that was the time the romance started.

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JoeBPlenty

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The conversation about her past you mean? That happens no matter wether you are friend or romantic interest... but if you completed that playthrough and 'completed' the romance with Leliana then colour me surprised.

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balu1982

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If you mean sleeping with her by "completing" then yes, i completed the romance.

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Falklol

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Weird, I talked about her fruit and all that, got to 90 something, and had her at (Love), we were "Togheter" so to speak, she told me she loved me, and I kissed her at one point. So it is possible anyway, you still need 100 to bed her though I think.

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CraigCWB

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"...you still need 100 to bed her though I think."



Too funny. Morrigan was all over my character after a 2 minute chat session. Didn't even need any gifts! Hadn't even left the wilds yet and she was dragging him into the tent. I'm fairly certain that in real life if that happened I'd be headed the other direction ASAP but then I'm not 12 years old so...

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GhoXen

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While it's useful, this thread should really be in the spoiler forum.

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Spoilers follow







To get the schmexytime cutscene I believe you can be at 97 (love) as points are added after the deed. I know I wasn't at full 100 when that dialogue scene was initiated.

Leliana's romance is complicated, and appears to be more difficult to restart if you mess up somewhere.

Modifié par Midnight Reyn, 18 novembre 2009 - 10:31 .


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Memengwa

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Well.. the girls have also this choice - one guy that is not that hard to make fall in love with you, but hard to get into your tent, and the other is easy to get to the tent, but more difficult to make fall in love with you.

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Interestingly enough, the romance option with her, complete with jealousy (over my romance with Alistair) popped up not once (I turned her down the first time), but twice in my game. I think there might be some other factors involved.



Sometime between the Circle and Redcliffe is when I dealt with the first romance and told her I just wanted to be friends. I went to Denerim last and the Majorlaine questline resumed at that point. I didn't even have her in my party at that point (I found Ohgren so much more fun after Orzammar) and sure enough the romance sequence started again back at camp. Complete with her jealousy over Alistair and complaining that I was playing with her emotions. I had to tell her yet again I just wanted to be friends.



I think she was secretly trying to sabotage my party because she kept enticing Ohgren to get drunk (not that that's hard) and then stealing his pants and giving them to my dog. I really don't want to know how she got them.


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marshalleck

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"Allow me! I can do that for you."



I will intentionally click on locked chests and doors just to hear her say this, because she has such a cute voice. Anyone else? Maybe I'm just weird.

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marshalleck wrote...

"Allow me! I can do that for you."

I will intentionally click on locked chests and doors just to hear her say this, because she has such a cute voice. Anyone else? Maybe I'm just weird.


I mostly just had her giggling when I did that. :P


*SPOILERS* (Seriously, move this to spoiler section.)


But yes. I totally messed up the Leliana romance and was way too much of a friend the first time. But then again, I was going for Morrigan for the extra story part. I'll keep that one sentence in mind then, for my next playthrough.
She was still just nice to have as a good friend though.

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what? wrong game :(



i asked about her fruit but she and alistair just had an exchange about how obvious it is we're attracted to each other. either the romance isn't affected by that dialog choice or there's a script check that is erroneously allowing that interparty banter to occur.

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ForgottenGuardian

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It is also important for female PCs (and possibly males), that before you make her like you too much, you must ask her about Orlesian bards and spies. If you pass that convo tree, there is no going back and remaining romantic. If you break up with her you stay friends. (the only other possible way is to annoy her without actually breaking up with her.) Without her quest you cannot get past a certain level of affection.

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JoeBPlenty wrote...
Now for female, it is different...Once you get 50+ approval with her as a female, she will initiate a conversation complimenting your hair... THIS is the romance make or break question and your response will dictate wether or not she will start romancing you.


Thanks for the post.  I've had less trouble with getting into the romance than getting her personal quest to start.  I eventually had to break up with her, which immediately triggered the conversation option for her personal quest, then get back in her good graces to complete the romance arc.

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hmmm, I just never got a conversation from her ever. Her and Sten have had empty conversation trees since the start of the game. Lil is on 100 for me but it's always been no conversation. Same with Sten but is approval is only around 50ish.



I just assumed it's a bug and moved on.