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[Dasher1010]

I'm going to be the biggest jerk I can be that includes

Selling Fenris into slavery
Giving Isabela over to the Qunari
Killing Merrill's clan
And then at the very end...
Knifing Anders
Dueling Merrill to the death
Allowing Meredith to kill Bethany

Who else is doing this? Also, I'm playing a rogue which mens that my final party is going to be Sebastian, Varric and Aveline. Is a three-rogue setup any good or do I really need a mage?

[Arppis]

Whats the patch about?

And that's a... very sociopathic.

Modifié par Arppis, 03 avril 2011 - 07:26 .

[Dasher1010]

Arppis wrote...

Whats the patch about?

And that's a... very sociopathic.

1. I'm not going to play a game this buggy again.

2. Thank you. I played through using the top options on the dialog wheel and played through as a saint. Now it's time for angry Hawke.

[Arppis]

Hehe, or sociopathic Hawke!

[Dasher1010]

Right. I'm playing Hawke as a complete and utter monster who still manages to romance Sebastian and while she gains some approval for siding with the templars, Seb is mostly annoyed at her greed and violence and although he appreciates her pushing him to leave the Chantry and become king.

This is a far cry from the Hawke who duel the Arishok to prove his love to a woman who betrayed him and defended the rights of mages out of sheer love for his sister.

[Arppis]

[Statulos]

Dasher1010 wrote...

Right. I'm playing Hawke as a complete and utter monster who still manages to romance Sebastian and while she gains some approval for siding with the templars, Seb is mostly annoyed at her greed and violence and although he appreciates her pushing him to leave the Chantry and become king.

This is a far cry from the Hawke who duel the Arishok to prove his love to a woman who betrayed him and defended the rights of mages out of sheer love for his sister.

You can get your "revenge" with Isabela just waiting a bit. She comes back and she tells you with those poor little kid eyes she has that she cares much more than she ever expected.

[Persephone]

Dasher1010 wrote...

I'm going to be the biggest jerk I can be that includes

Selling Fenris into slavery
Giving Isabela over to the Qunari
Killing Merrill's clan
And then at the very end...
Knifing Anders
Dueling Merrill to the death
Allowing Meredith to kill Bethany

Who else is doing this? Also, I'm playing a rogue which mens that my final party is going to be Sebastian, Varric and Aveline. Is a three-rogue setup any good or do I really need a mage?

Whoooooooooooooaaaaaaaaa.........I didn't even know about dueling Merrill and allowing Meredith to kill Bethany! Must start new playthrough like ASAP. (That's what I get for usually playing mages)

[sonsonthebia07]

Haha, I did the total jerk stuff in Origins. I managed to effectively kill off/dismiss every single party member but Morrigan and Loghain. Loghain is too awesome and Morrigan = , I can't seem to consistently be a dick in DA2, not when Merrill gives the puppy dog eyes.

But I have been murder kniving people every chance that I get on this playthrough.

[DarkSpiral]

You can duel Merrill? Is that one of the things that only happens if your Rivalry/Friendship meter is still sitting near the middle of the bar?

[Darker_than_black]

DarkSpiral wrote...

You can duel Merrill? Is that one of the things that only happens if your Rivalry/Friendship meter is still sitting near the middle of the bar?

I belive so yes. If you have a decent amout of rivalry or friendship your companions will almost always stand by you no matter what. One exception is Sebastian if you refuse to kill Anders, then he will leave no matter what.

As for how to trigger the duel with Merrill, I would assume you need to side with the templars in the final quest, but I'm not sure.

[Persephone]

Darker_than_black wrote...

DarkSpiral wrote...

You can duel Merrill? Is that one of the things that only happens if your Rivalry/Friendship meter is still sitting near the middle of the bar?

I belive so yes. If you have a decent amout of rivalry or friendship your companions will almost always stand by you no matter what. One exception is Sebastian if you refuse to kill Anders, then he will leave no matter what.

As for how to trigger the duel with Merrill, I would assume you need to side with the templars in the final quest, but I'm not sure.

I had her on full friendship & supported the Templars. She hesitated but followed.

But I had a O_o moment: So I send Anders away. Seb leaves in a huff.

Several battles later my Anders returns, preachy cutscene....

*Boom*

Anders dead.

Hawke: Dammit. Now Starkhaven will attack and........DAMMIT ANDERS!

[Darker_than_black]

Persephone wrote...

Darker_than_black wrote...

DarkSpiral wrote...

You can duel Merrill? Is that one of the things that only happens if your Rivalry/Friendship meter is still sitting near the middle of the bar?

I belive so yes. If you have a decent amout of rivalry or friendship your companions will almost always stand by you no matter what. One exception is Sebastian if you refuse to kill Anders, then he will leave no matter what.

As for how to trigger the duel with Merrill, I would assume you need to side with the templars in the final quest, but I'm not sure.

I had her on full friendship & supported the Templars. She hesitated but followed.

But I had a O_o moment: So I send Anders away. Seb leaves in a huff.

Several battles later my Anders returns, preachy cutscene....

*Boom*

Anders dead.

Hawke: Dammit. Now Starkhaven will attack and........DAMMIT ANDERS!

Yes, just like I said. On my last playthrough I had around 70 or 80% friendship with Merrill (the only companion I hadn't maxed out) and she followed me despite siding with the templars. But if I had had like only 20% friendship/rivalry with her, she would have left or turned on me (I think).

Oh yes I forgot to mention this earlier but; just like Sebastian will always leave if you spare Anders, so will Anders always leave if you side with the templars no matter your relationship with him (provided he is still alive ofc) .

Modifié par Darker_than_black, 03 avril 2011 - 10:14 .

[lobi]

I think Starkhaven will attack Kirkwall no matter what or who is in charge or what happens endgame. It's a DA2 thing.

[DarkSpiral]

Darker_than_black wrote...

 forgot to mention this earlier but; just like Sebastian will always leave if you spare Anders, so will Anders always leave if you side with the templars no matter your relationship with him (provided he is still alive ofc) .

I have seen evidence on YouTube that strongly suggests otherwise, actually.  Well, t "suggests" is much to light a term.  It makes it bltantly clear that Anders *can* stay with you if you spport the templars and don't kill him.  I have no idea if you have to be in a romance for this to happen.  But I've seen teh proof with my own eyes.

[DeathStride]

Dasher1010 wrote...

I'm going to be the biggest jerk I can be that includes

Selling Fenris into slavery
Giving Isabela over to the Qunari
Killing Merrill's clan
And then at the very end...
Knifing Anders
Dueling Merrill to the death
Allowing Meredith to kill Bethany

I want to be the evil soulless bastard who sells Fenris and gives Izy to the Qunari etc but I like to theme my evil plahthroughs to have the darker/more evil-ish companions too and as DA2 has it, that happens to be Anders, Fenris, and Izy.

So if I truly do all-out evil, I lose Fenris to Danarius, Izy to the Arishok, and Anders because I kill him(my evil playthrough sides w/Templars lol). So it's rather impossible for me to truly be evil on my evil playthrough

Modifié par DeathStride, 03 avril 2011 - 11:58 .

[PsychoBlonde]

I think you can do 3 rogues and a tank reasonably well. You may have to play on lower difficulty than with a mage (not to mention spending more $ on potions).

The main difficulty IMO is that your rogues won't be able to set up cross-class combos for each other, so you will definitely not want to waste any points in anything that Disorients mobs. But if you turn Aveline into a monster nigh-invulnerable tank and go with 3 ranged rogues, you can probably get away with scooching your rogues into a corner somewhere (so mobs can't appear behind them) and having all 3 of them just annihilate one mob at a time while Aveline sits there and taunts to keep the rest of the crowd busy. You shouldn't have trouble with mages because 3 ranged rogues ought to be able to take any mage down nearly instantly.

[stobie]

Never. There wouldn't be enough water to wash myself clean if I sold that guy into slavery, even in a video game.

[PsychoBlonde]

stobie wrote...

Never. There wouldn't be enough water to wash myself clean if I sold that guy into slavery, even in a video game.

You could compromise by hitting the "sure take him" option and then changing your mind.  Fenris' WTF HAWKE?!?!? is pretty entertaining and you could argue that messing with him is far more sociopathic than letting Danarius take him and skip the opportunity for all that lovely violence.

[Fieryeel]

Is there a "duel Merrill" video?

I 've been told she only leaves your party, you don't get to kill her.

[Johnsen1972]

I would keep Anders and screw Sebastian. Anders can heal at least.

[Chromie]

Dasher1010 wrote...
Dueling Merrill to the death

You can duel her?!#!

[Silveryne]

I've had Merrill sit at 0%, give or take 15%, sided with the Templars, and she never did anything. I'm a little skeptical that this option exists.

[Dasher1010]

Silveryne wrote...

I've had Merrill sit at 0%, give or take 15%, sided with the Templars, and she never did anything. I'm a little skeptical that this option exists.

0% as in neutral or 0% as in full rivalry?

[Icy Magebane]

I'm not willing to believe that Merrill can be killed. I was told that Isabela could be killed in the Blooming Rose and that ended up being just a rumor. Anyone here who has actually done this?

Edit:  Dasher, you forgot to side with Petrice and Varnell by killing the Qunari delegates and then burning the corpes.:happy:  Good times...  Oh, and make sure you take Orana as a slave right in front of Fenris.  It's pretty damn funny.

Modifié par Icy Magebane, 04 avril 2011 - 02:45 .