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DA3 should have Origin stories again


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I was really nervous about the voice acted pc, but I was very happy with it. A grating voice would have ruined it all. (and I realize that's subjective) I also see they can't give you a bunch of choices, because that's a lot of voice acting. I do think they could cough up some elf/dwarf voices, too, though. One of the things I wanted most from Origins was a Welsh/Irish accent for the Dalish, and possibly for the City Elves, too. I was thrilled to see it happen. Thanks for that, btw!

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I dunno why some people are making the equation Lots of Origins = No VO.

There doesn't even have to be more than 1 VO per gender and they could spice things up by doing things like changing some quotes.. THings like changing "by the maker" to "by the ancestors".. Give Elves the ability to say some elven things and even say things like "shemlen".

I think that would be enough to create the amount of immersion needed.

Not that I'd care if they took out VO, I don't like having to guess what my character's going to say even though I've chosen the response that I thought would be correct.

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PsychoBlonde wrote...
David, David, David, can we have Origins based on class instead of RACE maybe?


Part of that would depend on whether we were to have multiple playable races again. If not, splitting Origins among the classes would be a way to provide distinction between the classes (which is a goal). I don't know-- really it's simply speculation at this point. I'm just saying Origins are not off the table.

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I'd rather have an elf & dwarf option, personally.

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This thread has me worried. I was really hoping Hawke would be the DA3 main character, but DG's coments make that seem quite unlikely.

Modifié par silver-crescent, 04 avril 2011 - 12:46 .


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silver-crescent wrote...

This thread has me worried. I was really hoping Hawke would be the DA3 main character, but DG's coments make that seem quite unlikely.


That's a good thing..

I would not want to play Hawke again, not interesting enough to have a franchise built around him/her.

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I just figured we'd get an Awakening-like expansion for Hawke, and some DLCs, which resolve that story, and then move on to something new for DA3. I'd love to get my Warden back somehow, but I suspect they all just disappear into the mist for some later date. I played BG so many times, but I'm not remembering it exactly - didn't we play as a half-god or something in the 2nd one? I guess I've always pictured something like that eventually.

Still want my city elf back, though...

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silver-crescent wrote...

This thread has me worried. I was really hoping Hawke would be the DA3 main character, but DG's coments make that seem quite unlikely.


That would just make Hawke a true Shepard clone. And from how DA2 ended he's loved by many, hated by just as many, and its probably safer/more peaceful to remain in hiding or to have left Thedas.

David Gaider wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...
David, David, David, can we have Origins based on class instead of RACE maybe?


Part
of that would depend on whether we were to have multiple playable races
again. If not, splitting Origins among the classes would be a way to
provide distinction between the classes (which is a goal). I don't
know-- really it's simply speculation at this point. I'm just saying
Origins are not off the table.


That would also lessen customization. Because based on your class you'd be locked to a certain side/story. Like how choosing the mage class always locked you to the Circle Mage origin.

Further elaboration to my comment is that the Dalish have mages too that exist outside the Circle, and some apostates can successfully hide from the Templars. So a mage could have been a reasonable class for most of the other origins with few changes to dialogue/story

Modifié par The Grey Nayr, 04 avril 2011 - 12:57 .


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Well not saying he should be the MC for the whole franchise, but I was hoping he'd be the DA3 one.

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Hawke road off into the sunset; possibly with a love interest or a zombie.

As long as they aren't worried about accents, I don't see why one voice actor couldn't play across origins and races.

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silver-crescent wrote...

Well not saying he should be the MC for the whole franchise, but I was hoping he'd be the DA3 one.

Your two options are to become the viscount of Kirkwall or become an outlaw and go into hiding. Putting Hawke as the main character in DA3 would be an utter continutity disaster. Second, series with a precedent of changing characters between games never suddenly decide to use the same one over again.

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silver-crescent wrote...
This thread has me worried. I was really hoping Hawke would be the DA3 main character, but DG's coments make that seem quite unlikely.


As I said earlier, whether we use Origins it would really depend on the story we chose to pursue. If Hawke was the main character, then we probably wouldn't need them-- there'd already be multiple entry points into the story. If he/she wasn't, then we could consider it.

Don't take my comments as being anything more than a suggestion that the future of the game, and its features, are set in stone. There will be plenty of time for people to hyperventilate when and if any changes are announced. ;)

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Consider DG's statements as part of Dragon Age X (where x is some undefined number). Such a game is probably only on paper and they probably haven't even had their coffee meeting to discuss it yet, let alone commit it to development. So don't worry about it affecting the immediate future of DA games.

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David Gaider wrote...

If Hawke was the main character

Please, no Image IPB

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stobie wrote...

I'd rather have an elf & dwarf option, personally.


Indeed, I would like the choice of races back, and perhaps with it the opportunity of DA3 to have your race choice affects things more deeply then Origins (not that it did a bad job at all, but it could be taken much further).

Also please, don't stick us with Hawke again

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tmp7704 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

If Hawke was the main character

Please, no Image IPB


I agree.. Please no more Hawke as main...

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I'd rather have a choice of races, which can be each class, truly, than a choice of class beginnings. It allows for a little more nuance. Even if you played a human noble, making her a rogue or warrior set her up quite differently, I thought. (If she could be a mage, even more so.) I guess there are a lot of ways they could do this, but after getting used to the new elf forms, I really want to be one!

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If they do the origins do fewer of them and have them mean something. It was 45 minutes of difference and then one NPC's later in the game who'd say "Hey I know you" later.

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Fewer origins would work. Human, elf, dwarf - that would be fine. The more they do, though, they more we'd want to replay.

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In my fictional, pie in the sky ideal version of what DA2 would have been, if you played as the Warden, you could have had Origin stories that basically gave you a unique opening based on how you ended Origins- so you might have your Warden as Queen with Alistair, in Eluvian Land with Morrigan, maybe hunting down Antivan Crows with Zevran or whatever.

Of course, even should the Warden return as a PC, it would seem DA2 sets things up that the Warden is "gone" no matter what, and in the cases of Zevran and Leliana at least, no longer with their LI, so that prior idea wouldn't seem to work. Still could work if the Warden was with Morrigan or if it was all Wardens that went off, so that would include Alistair with his LI Warden.

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David Gaider wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...
This thread has me worried. I was really hoping Hawke would be the DA3 main character, but DG's coments make that seem quite unlikely.


As I said earlier, whether we use Origins it would really depend on the story we chose to pursue. If Hawke was the main character, then we probably wouldn't need them-- there'd already be multiple entry points into the story. If he/she wasn't, then we could consider it.

Don't take my comments as being anything more than a suggestion that the future of the game, and its features, are set in stone. There will be plenty of time for people to hyperventilate when and if any changes are announced. ;)


Thanks for the clarification.

It does feel like after DA:O and DA2 the series really can go in a lot of different directions. It's a rare thing not being able to know what to expect from a sequel at all.

Modifié par silver-crescent, 04 avril 2011 - 01:27 .


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stobie wrote...

Fewer origins would work. Human, elf, dwarf - that would be fine. The more they do, though, they more we'd want to replay.


Is that bad?

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"If" we ever have selectable race again.

:(

Stupid humans being the most popular and "default" choice.

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Ringo12 wrote...

stobie wrote...

Fewer origins would work. Human, elf, dwarf - that would be fine. The more they do, though, they more we'd want to replay.


Is that bad?



Nope. That's good. 

I'd prefer more options. I guess - who wouldn't?  But I'd settle for just the 3 race choices.   A future Hawk, carrying on whichever story you picked to import, would be interesting. I guess I was expecting that for an expansion. (a huge, big-as-this-game one, btw!)  

It would be neat to have the chance to bring up your old warden or this hawke, or whoever you liked best, though. My city elf didn't pick a woman - ok, he fathered a child, but his heart was unbound. (I wish I'd named him 'Mark,' so I could then echo, "I'm unhavable. I am Mark."  And you'd need to see the Riff Trax version of the Room to understand, I guess!)

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stobie wrote...

I'd rather have an elf & dwarf option, personally.

I don't know... with the way the elves look now I might skip out on them. I'm not saying they bad... I'm just saying I think Bioware took them a lil too far.