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[Darth Krytie]

AlexXIV wrote...

So I take it if origins are not off the table for DA3, does that mean Hawke is off the table? We get a new protagonist for DA3?

David Gaider says in that same comment that nothing has been decided. Or, if it has been, nothing's being released. So, basically, if they choose not to go with Hawke again, there could be Origin stories.

They probably have a few directions to go in which are up for discussion. First thing that needs to happen is that TPTB need to agree to fund a new Dragon Age and give them the go ahead to develop an idea. Then they need to put forth a proposal about what sort of story they want...and then TPTB need to agree to it. Theeeennn, after all that, they can star work on the game proper.

[Icy Magebane]

Whatever happens... just give me the option to be human and I'm fine with it. I do not want to be forced to play as an elf or Qunari, but I have no objection to giving the option to those who want it.

[Torax]

I know it would probably never be an option. But I'd love to play a Dalish in DA3. Even with the new elf body shapes. I still love the Dalish.

[Caja]

David Gaider wrote...

Nighteye2 wrote...
I really enjoyed the Origin stories in DA:O and think one game using them is not enough - the concept of Origin stories has a lot more potential to it that Bioware can use. In that line, players should also be able to select their species again - including the option to play Qunari this time, with a Qunari origin story. There is so much potential for interesting Origin stories in Thedas...it'd be a waste not to use it in DA3. :innocent:

I like the Origins, and could definitely see us returning to something similar in the future-- depending on the story in question. It need not be a way to introduce the world, as it was in DAO, but give a player different entry points into their personal story. So, yes, it's not out of the question at all.

That's great to hear  !

[DanteCousland]

I think a talvasoth origin would be cool that way you can roleplay a charcter whichever way you want, if you played a qunari youd be bound to what the qun says. Like your parents could have fallen in love left the qun and become farmers in a human village and raised you or osmething/

[ReallyRue]

Torax wrote...

I know it would probably never be an option. But I'd love to play a Dalish in DA3. Even with the new elf body shapes. I still love the Dalish.

I'd love to play as an elf because of the new look. It would feel more unique than playing as a tiny human (like on DAO), especially because elf ears on the console were plastered to the PC's head.

[tmp7704]

ReallyRue wrote...

I'd love to play as an elf because of the new look. It would feel more unique than playing as a tiny human (like on DAO), especially because elf ears on the console were plastered to the PC's head.

PC's ears were flat because otherwise they'd clip straight through the helmets/hoods. This actually isn't something that was addressed in DA2 (they sort of worked around it simply making all Dalish not wear helmets at all) so playing elf in DA3 is somewhat dubious -- means extra work on making these armour models or some sort of a kludge.

[Orion34]

If Bioware decides to keep using voice actors for the main character it would take quite some time to make a game like Origins again. However,lets say the game involves a conflict between humans/Qunari/Tal-Vashoth ,I think it would be awesome to be able to choose your side. It would still take a lot of time and work,but would be completely worth it. This probably isn't the greatest example to use,but if I'm not mistaken the Avatar game had an option like this.

<<<< Has an odd fascination with the Qunari/Tal-Vashoth,sorry if I keep bringing them up in every other post I make

[Wyndham711]

Yes, I love the origin stories and would really want them to return. And I'm glad David and the team are at least considering it for future sequels. And I agree with there being a bit less of them. Something like 3-4 with more variation and reactivity would be great. I would take this kind of roleplaying depth/freedom over cinematic eye/ear candy anyday.

[Nighteye2]

RosaAquafire wrote...
"If" we ever have selectable race again.



Stupid humans being the most popular and "default" choice.

Yes, it would have been so much more fun to have an Elf be named champion. Think of the outrage that'd cause inside and outside Kirkwall...

Modifié par Nighteye2, 04 avril 2011 - 06:52 .

[Huntress]

David Gaider wrote...

Nighteye2 wrote...
I really enjoyed the Origin stories in DA:O and think one game using them is not enough - the concept of Origin stories has a lot more potential to it that Bioware can use. In that line, players should also be able to select their species again - including the option to play Qunari this time, with a Qunari origin story. There is so much potential for interesting Origin stories in Thedas...it'd be a waste not to use it in DA3. :innocent:

I like the Origins, and could definitely see us returning to something similar in the future-- depending on the story in question. It need not be a way to introduce the world, as it was in DAO, but give a player different entry points into their personal story. So, yes, it's not out of the question at all.

Ok, I love you, my husband will kill me if he knows about this but, I love you.<3

[NamiraWilhelm]

I was holding out hope we could be Hawke again... best thing about Mass Effect is we can be the same character over several games....

[AlexXIV]

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

I was holding out hope we could be Hawke again... best thing about Mass Effect is we can be the same character over several games....

I would also love to play Hawke again. For once because I missed the epicness of the character in DA2 and also because I really hate the idea that every grand hero of Dragon Age disappears in the unknown regions.

[Iosev]

I wouldn't mind playing a DA game with multiple origin stories again, as long as the game occurs after the magi rebellion time period. At least until the magi conflict is over, I would like to continue playing as Hawke (in order to finish his or her story).

If DA 3 is going to continue the story of the magi rebellion, then I definitely want to continue playing as Hawke.  Considering the scale of the current war alluded to by Cassandra and Varric, I would be really disappointed to see it resolved within the DLC (or before the next game).

Modifié par arcelonious, 04 avril 2011 - 08:03 .

[Huntress]

arcelonious wrote...

I wouldn't mind playing a DA game with multiple origin stories again, as long as the game occurs after the magi rebellion time period. At least until the magi conflict is over, I would like to continue playing as Hawke (in order to finish his or her story).

If DA 3 is going to continue the story of the magi rebellion, then I definitely want to continue playing as Hawke.  Considering the scale of the current war alluded to by Cassandra and Varric, I would be really disappointed to see it resolved within the DLC (or before the next game).

You know I get upset about 2 things:
1) There is no cannon DA universe! thats why DA2 has no  Grey warden-commander in it.
2) That every new game has a new hero, and this hero has the probability of dissapearing, just as the Warden who survive the blight and  the champion of kirkwall. You want to know where they went but, they'll ask you to use your imagination so,
If you want to continue playing any of the old hero's in future expantions, you'll get any of the following answers:

They are gone// be happy// life sux for you// end of the story time to move on// ect.. ( pick any of this ones and sit on it)

I notes that not one wants to keep any of this hero's alive and kicking, they ask bioware to give them something new, with exactly same end and they'll be happy.

I can't wait to play as female qunari in DA3.. really, I can see my Femalequnari fighting the forces of the universe because she doesn't want to mate with the horny guy next door, If she is a mage Oh dear! been able to pick up my collar, hope it matches my eyes!!  sounds stupid  but,  can you ask for better ones at this point?

Modifié par Huntress, 04 avril 2011 - 10:11 .

[Race Dragonheart]

David Gaider wrote...

Ensgnblack wrote...
David, I appreciate your responding to this thread.  If I might offer a suggestion on future "multiple entry points":

The Origins in DAO were largely cosmetic.  Were you to include different starting points it would be nice to have them have more of an impact on the story than someone addressing you as human/elf/mage and possibly being a little  ruder or nicer to you.

I loved DAO and am enjoying DA2 quite a lot, but I would hate to see a feature such  as multiple entry points put in the game the same way DAO had it.  After the initial  intro, the game was 99% the same  regardless  of one's origin. 

Actually, come to think of it,  was this intentional?   Would it be possible to change up more than the occasional piece of dialogue without sucking too much resource requirement into the game?

It's a question of degrees as well as intent.

The Origins in DAO were intended largely to offer an introduction to the world, as well as give one main "hook" in the story later on. Since there were so many, there's a limited amount of actual variance we could do. If there were less Origins, their effect could certainly be more pronounced... with the trade-off being the amount of choice they offer. To a degree, it can be argued that once you start offering tailored Origins people might look to what they see missing ("why isn't there a Human Commoner?") rather than what's there.

But, yes, on the whole if we did it again I'd probably push for them to have greater impact down the line-- particularly since the need for an introduction would no longer be present.

David, can I ask you to push this option, because this is so right and what made origins so compelling, every playthrough felt unique and i listened to every dialgue to see if there were differences, ie, humans dislike of elves. not saying that you have to do 6 options (would be nice though) but at least 3 solid ones would be awesome!!

[EmperorSahlertz]

DA3's "Origins":
1: Hawke. You continue to play as Hawke (or create a new one if you didn't play DA2)
2: Hero of Ferelden. You continue play as the Hero of Ferelden, which would mean he/she would finally get a voice and actually interact with the world instead of glaring stiffly at nothing.
3: Something awesome.

That would make me a happy panda.

[Race Dragonheart]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

DA3's "Origins":
1: Hawke. You continue to play as Hawke (or create a new one if you didn't play DA2)
2: Hero of Ferelden. You continue play as the Hero of Ferelden, which would mean he/she would finally get a voice and actually interact with the world instead of glaring stiffly at nothing.
3: Something awesome.

That would make me a happy panda.

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[EmperorSahlertz]

Race Dragonheart wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

DA3's "Origins":
1: Hawke. You continue to play as Hawke (or create a new one if you didn't play DA2)
2: Hero of Ferelden. You continue play as the Hero of Ferelden, which would mean he/she would finally get a voice and actually interact with the world instead of glaring stiffly at nothing.
3: Something awesome.

That would make me a happy panda.

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*Imaginary high-five*

[Morroian]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

DA3's "Origins":
1: Hawke. You continue to play as Hawke (or create a new one if you didn't play DA2)
2: Hero of Ferelden. You continue play as the Hero of Ferelden, which would mean he/she would finally get a voice and actually interact with the world instead of glaring stiffly at nothing.
3: Something awesome.

That would make me a happy panda.

I wouldn't mind that solution.

[Edge2177]

Torax wrote...

The City Elf and Dalish Elf Origins were great to me. Gave you insight. Even the Human Noble origin just helped you see where they come from. Do have to say the Female City Elf gutting Vaughn was just perfect. Even if I'm more partial to the Dalish from Origins. That was very epic. I also loved the Gladiator kind of reference from the Dwarf Castless Origin.

So true. When I heard the [Spoiler]











elves murdered a noble after their sister was raped, I was like, "They killed him? Hell yeah, they're not getting in trouble for it, I did that in Origins ;P"

[End Spoiler]

[AlexXIV]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

3: Something 'awesome'.

Probably this.

[Dormiglione]

David Gaider wrote...

I like the Origins, and could definitely see us returning to something similar in the future-- depending on the story in question. It need not be a way to introduce the world, as it was in DAO, but give a player different entry points into their personal story. So, yes, it's not out of the question at all.

Cant tell you how much happy i am reading this post.
Honestly, thank you very much David.

[Nighteye2]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

DA3's "Origins":
1: Hawke. You continue to play as Hawke (or create a new one if you didn't play DA2)
2: Hero of Ferelden. You continue play as the Hero of Ferelden, which would mean he/she would finally get a voice and actually interact with the world instead of glaring stiffly at nothing.
3: Something awesome.

That would make me a happy panda.

If they did that, option 2 should have a mute PC with full-text conversations.

(ideally all options should have a full-text conversations, but at least option 2)