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[Dan the Man]

I've been pondering this myself long before playing Dragon Age 2; in Origins, I killed her for Morrigan (my first thought was "DRAGONOHSH*T), only to find in Witch Hunt that she had somehow survived being stabbed in the head.

Dragon Age 2 cleared that up for me, but opened a whole new can of worms: specifically, HOW could Flemeth split enough of her being to bacically clone herself?

Between her considerable power, apparent age, reputation among the elves, general knowlegdeability about darkspawn, and her uncanny ability to predict events, I'm beginning to think she is one of the Old Gods.

Thoughts?

[Kawamura]

Obviously, the amulet was her horcrux.

[underyourspell]

An old, old woman.

[FaeQueenCory]

Kawamura wrote...

Obviously, the amulet was her horcrux.

I curse these children of today who see a phylactery and say "horcrux"...

She's what she is, a talented, former human apostate who's plans are far bigger than either you, I, or Morrigan ever realized back in Origins. It would also appear that Sandal seems to think some important, world-shaking, God's-Millennial-Kingdom-making stuff is gonna go down that is probably tied to the DemonGodBaby... and knowing that Flemeth sent Morrigan to get that baby... and seeing as just how readily she was willing to give Morrigan her freedom... and how she freely admitted that the body snatching was just a means to an end... Well.. I'll let you draw your own conclusions...

[Kawamura]

FaeQueenCory wrote...
I curse these children of today who see a phylactery and say "horcrux"...

Hey, isn't this the point when you say "at least Harry Potter made him read", right? Or else I might be illiterate, as well as a fantasy philistine.

[FaeQueenCory]

Kawamura wrote...

FaeQueenCory wrote...
I curse these children of today who see a phylactery and say "horcrux"...

Hey, isn't this the point when you say "at least Harry Potter made him read", right? Or else I might be illiterate, as well as a fantasy philistine.

Touche... Kinda... I mean, Twilight makes today's children read.... But people should still know what the history is. Besides, there are many better children & teen fantasy book series to read. I suggest Garth Nix's Abhorsen Trilogy.

[MorningBird]

Morrigan's mother.

[Kawamura]

FaeQueenCory wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

FaeQueenCory wrote...
I curse these children of today who see a phylactery and say "horcrux"...

Hey, isn't this the point when you say "at least Harry Potter made him read", right? Or else I might be illiterate, as well as a fantasy philistine.

Touche... Kinda... I mean, Twilight makes today's children read.... But people should still know what the history is. Besides, there are many better children & teen fantasy book series to read. I suggest Garth Nix's Abhorsen Trilogy.

I actually don't like fantasy much. Outside of Pratchett, I guess, though that's cheating.

It's mostly sci-fi and non fiction for me. And I honestly read before Harry Potter. That was just sarcasm.

[FaeQueenCory]

Kawamura wrote...
I actually don't like fantasy much. Outside of Pratchett, I guess, though that's cheating.

It's mostly sci-fi and non fiction for me. And I honestly read before Harry Potter. That was just sarcasm.

I could tell, it was the use of philistine. People don't use old words when they're being seious on the internet.
Pratchett is supposed to be really good... I keep getting told to read Discworld... but I never find the time...

[Kawamura]

FaeQueenCory wrote...

Kawamura wrote...
I actually don't like fantasy much. Outside of Pratchett, I guess, though that's cheating.

It's mostly sci-fi and non fiction for me. And I honestly read before Harry Potter. That was just sarcasm.

I could tell, it was the use of philistine. People don't use old words when they're being seious on the internet.
Pratchett is supposed to be really good... I keep getting told to read Discworld... but I never find the time...

Philistine isn't an old word, is it? 

it's a perfectly fine word. I don't know any other word that fits its definition. /surly.

[fighterchick]

I've heard Old God, but then I wonder why she wanted to create the OGB through Morrigan if she already was one. She doesn't seem to be Andraste at all, nor the Maker. I have no idea...I have no ideas, but I'm looking forward to finding out (if we ever do!).

[DarthSliver]

I just sense she has plans for the Warden and Hawke. She obviously saw something in them to save them. This leads me to believe and hope we will see alot more of her in Dragon Age 3 because I think she will be fully pulling the strings of the main protagonist in DA3.

But now to the topic of hand, she is the puppet master to whats happening in Dragon Age universe right now, i think. She stopped the blight and caused the Mage vs Templar war thats going on. It makes sense because she couldve just let the Warden and Hawke die. She saw the importance of their survival as she forshadow the Kirkwall event to Hawke in a way. She also knew she needed the Warden so the Blight would stop in Haste, she mightve knew how it even started if you ask me.

[Camilladilla]

Flemeth is the Maker is Andraste is Fen'harel is an Old God is awesome.

[Eveangaline]

She's Andraste

[Tahleron1]

fighterchicks wrote...

I've heard Old God, but then I wonder why she wanted to create the OGB through Morrigan if she already was one. She doesn't seem to be Andraste at all, nor the Maker. I have no idea...I have no ideas, but I'm looking forward to finding out (if we ever do!).

Why does an Old God wanting to bring back members of its own kind seem unusual to you?

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say she was possessed/merged with by a portion of an Old God's soul that it managed to break free if a final act of desperation against the taint.

Modifié par Tahleron1, 04 avril 2011 - 03:05 .

[ipgd]

FaeQueenCory wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

Obviously, the amulet was her horcrux.

I curse these children of today who see a phylactery and say "horcrux"...

Considering phylactery is used in the DA universe to mean something else entirely, that probably wouldn't have been an apt word to use. It also wouldn't have made a very good pop culture joke.

[fighterchick]

Tahleron1 wrote...

fighterchicks wrote...

I've heard Old God, but then I wonder why she wanted to create the OGB through Morrigan if she already was one. She doesn't seem to be Andraste at all, nor the Maker. I have no idea...I have no ideas, but I'm looking forward to finding out (if we ever do!).

Why does an Old God wanting to bring back members of its own kind seem unusual to you?

I don't see Flemeth as the benevolent sort who would want another of her own kind (if she is indeed an old god) around, potentially threatening her own power.  I figured she'd want to use that power for something, but if she already had the power equivalent to an old god, I don't see why she'd want another one around.

I don't see Flemeth as the benevolent sort who would want another of her own kind (if she is indeed an old god) around, potentially threatening her own power.  I figured she'd want to use that power for something, but if she already had the power equivalent to an old god, I don't see why she'd want another one around.

[Tahleron1]

fighterchicks wrote...

I don't see Flemeth as the benevolent sort who would want another of her own kind (if she is indeed an old god) around, potentially threatening her own power.  I figured she'd want to use that power for something, but if she already had the power equivalent to an old god, I don't see why she'd want another one around.

Threaten what? the Old Gods were allied to each other.  The Old Gods seem loosely based on pagan pantheons, one considered leader, often jostling with each other, but when push comes to shove its "us immortals" vs "them mortals"

Modifié par Tahleron1, 04 avril 2011 - 03:13 .

[Funny_chan]

I believe that Flemeth is both an Old God/Old God baby and Andraste. That's the reason the people of Haven thought the dragon was Andraste. Also, I see a similarity between her history with her husband and Andraste's history with the Maker. BTW, Old Gods are known for singing beautifully, same as Andraste.

[Stelae]

Well, if Ben Kenobi, Gandalf and Katharine Hepburn had a baby ...

[FreyaWazHere]

Funny_chan wrote...

I believe that Flemeth is both an Old God/Old God baby and Andraste. That's the reason the people of Haven thought the dragon was Andraste. Also, I see a similarity between her history with her husband and Andraste's history with the Maker. BTW, Old Gods are known for singing beautifully, same as Andraste.

Stole the words right out of my head.

I've long thought Flemeth is one of the Old Gods, or at least part one ever since Morrigan discussed her ritual which I bet she learned after reading Flemeth's True Grimore. It would also explain why Morrigan was interested in raisng an Old God herself. And Flemeth's own magic is far beyond what weve seen that even blood mages can do. Also worthy of note is her almost seer-like ability to predict and understand the future and read people.

As for her being Andraste, I noticed the similarity in stories, though I never actually conected them like that, which is a great idea. I'm reminded of the discussion over wether Andraste herself was a mage, which this could lend possible connection to.

Hopefully they will explain this in DA3