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[Rexiselic]

We will take back our ancestral homeland and rise again!

So... I guess, we will lower again and take back the underground?

[asaiasai]

I think that depends entirely on who you put on the throne. Bhelen will be a cruel tyrant that will drag the Dwarves by the scruffs of thier beards out of the mired in tradition past that the Dwarves seem to have become stuck in. They are loosing more men and ground than they can afford because they refuse due to an archaic tradition utalize the castless as a manpower resource. Provide upward mobility based entirely upon the contribution a castless person makes to the Dwarven community and the Dwarves may have a chance, mind you i still think it is a long shot but it is the only chance to avoid extinction.

Harromont while the honest one of the two choices is not the right choice unless you wish to remove any chance for a comeback the Dwarves have. Is Harromont honest, fair, a decient man sure but he is not what the Dwarves need. Even in my Dwarven noble plays i still have to put Bhelen on the throne because as i RP it, as a Dwarf i have to take what is in the best interest of my people first and personal BS takes a back seat. Baseing my decision as a dwarven noble i have to place the people first if i truly love my people. As a warden of a commoner background the decision is even easier as all the nobles are corrupt and oppresive anyway the guy who will reduce the oppression is the easy choice, plus that and not really knowing the nobles having had no contact other than the occasional boot to the backside bhele is the easiest choice. Sometimes though i would take the contracts that i am supposed to use to undermine Harromont's supporters to the Shaperate whow has some interesting things to say about them which sometimes leads me to pick Harromont as a DC anyway. As a different race i RP it different sometimes it is Harromont, sometimes it is Bhelen (sometimes going to the shaperate) because as an outsider and because Dwarven politics is confusing to dwarves as well i will go with what i did not do in the last play through.

In any case as i see it with the Dwarven situation as it is i give them a 70/30 chance of extinction/survival with Bhelen on the throne and i give them a 90/10 chance with Harromont. I have 22 completed DAO characters/plays so i have i think just about exhausted every option and build possible, and loved every minute that is how awesome DAO was. DA2 on the other hand i could not even get myself to buy it after playing the demo at least not for 60 bucks anyway.

Asai

[BigBad]

The future of the dwarves is tricky to accurately predict with any sense of accuracy.

There are exactly two known dwarven cities remaining: Orzammar and Kal Sharok. Orzammar is the largest and most powerful, and is currently in the midst of a steep decline due to centuries of attrition finally catching up to them. Kal Sharok is an unknown, but Orzammar is obviously at a critical juncture during and after the Fifth Blight.

In fact, one could say that the Warden is one of the most influential figures in Orzammar history, whether s/he is a dwarf or not. Consider:

The choice of king during the succession crisis directly affects Orzammar's policies, setting which extreme is catered to. In addition, the choice of whether to retain or destroy the Anvil also has a vastly far-reaching effect on the new king's rule and efficiency. And finally, the Warden-Commander's decisions regarding the Architect has the potential for vastly far-reaching and unforseeable consequences in the darkspawn ranks, and thus on their eternal enemies in Orzammar.

Personally, I think that Orzammar is doomed. At best, the Warden can buy them a few more centuries, but they'll be overwhelmed eventually. So long as the darkspawn exist in the Deep Roads in such numbers, they can easily outbreed the dwarves and continue the war of attrition. If dwarves are to survive as a race, I believe it will have to be on the surface.

I also think that dwarves could prosper greatly if converted to the Qun and counted amongst the Qunari. Traditional dwarves have a great reverence for excellence, mastery, and duty, and are accustomed to rigid social structures that bind one to a specific task or role in society.

Of course, as a subtle but omnipresent theme of the Dragon Age series is that ancient legends are returning to walk the modern world, it is entirely possible that something unforseen will happen in a future DA title that will drastically effect the dwarves. Sandal is a major hint towards something like this, as he is at times hinted to be the only dwarven mage, and he offers a somewhat ominous prophecy in DAII.

[Rexiselic]

Edit: spaced it out, for some reason when the first time I posted it it was just a big wall of text despite the fact that I spaced it the first time.


BigBad already brought up the matter of the Anvil, but didn't really go in depth.


Whether or not the dwarves get their hands on golem producing factors would have a far greater effect than who sits on the throne in terms of survival against the darkspawn. I mean, honestly, I just wish that Caridin could have been convinced to make new golems for the dwarves because Harrowmont + Caridin would have = dwarf win without evil.


Although, I really wish there was a way to solidify Harrowmont's position on the throne even without the idea of golems. I mean, who exactly is rebelling against him? I know that when I played through what I did after declaring Harrowmont king was to comb through the city with a fine pick and mercilessly execute anyone who supported Bhelen or threatened Harrowmont's rule in any way.


This includes Vartag Gavorn and his Bhelen loyalist royal guards, Wojech Ivo (I really wanted to kill his borhter too, Frandlin Ivo who betrays the dwarf noble, but he is nowhere to be found), Lucjan and Myaja the twin provings warriors, Piotin Aeducan and his second as well as a few henchmen, Bhelen fanatics, Jarvia supporters, and anyone else at all that I could find and kill. That includes the most notable figures that would have reason to and be in positions to instigate insurgencies against Harrowmont.


So, I ask again, how exactly is Harrowmont's rule going to be overcome by a Bhelen rebellion? I just don't get it.


Edit: Oh, and I forgot to mention, that immediately after Harrowmont was crowned and before going through the city when Bhelen tried to preform a coup, I had him put in a force shield by Morrigan so that I could kill every single dwarf noble who followed him and healed all the ones loyal to Harrowmont to ensure that only nobles who supported Harrowmont survived. When I killed Bhelen he was all on his lonesome being butchered by an angry crowd of Harrowmont loyalists.

Modifié par Rexiselic, 05 avril 2011 - 04:47 .

[beggargirl]

The Water God wrote...

I suspect they'll probably make a comeback. Not many are on the surface anyways (I believe they estimated about 500 lived on the surface.)

I killed all those dwarves in DA2