Kazanth wrote...
"I thought I was the only one thinking that!" when giving Fenris back to Danarius sealed my eternal hatred for Anders. Slavery is wrong, unless you happen to be someone who says something bad about mages. In that case it's A-okay to just stand there and make a joke at their expense.
I desperately want to ask how Fenris is hypocritical, since I've never seen him be anything but honest and consistent with his positions, but that'd be a total thread derail.ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
Yeah, Anders is a hypocritical idiot. So is Fenris.
Aris Ravenstar wrote...
I desperately want to ask how Fenris is hypocritical, since I've never seen him be anything but honest and consistent with his positions, but that'd be a total thread derail.ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
Yeah, Anders is a hypocritical idiot. So is Fenris.
Modifié par ishmaeltheforsaken, 04 avril 2011 - 03:43 .
ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
Kazanth wrote...
"I thought I was the only one thinking that!" when giving Fenris back to Danarius sealed my eternal hatred for Anders. Slavery is wrong, unless you happen to be someone who says something bad about mages. In that case it's A-okay to just stand there and make a joke at their expense.
Yeah, Anders is a hypocritical idiot. So is Fenris.
Modifié par Kazanth, 04 avril 2011 - 03:49 .
Miri1984 wrote...
Re: Fenris Also his "What does magic touch that it doesn't spoil" just before he boinks my Mage!Hawke made me o_O a little.
ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
Kazanth wrote...
"I thought I was the only one thinking that!" when giving Fenris back to Danarius sealed my eternal hatred for Anders. Slavery is wrong, unless you happen to be someone who says something bad about mages. In that case it's A-okay to just stand there and make a joke at their expense.
Yeah, Anders is a hypocritical idiot. So is Fenris.
lol... what a jerk! I tend to travel with Anders for like 5 minutes before he says something I don't like and I send him back to his clinic, so I've never heard that. Wow...Aeryn-Sun wrote...
He also makes the lovely, "Wonder if we'll find more than a bag of bones this time," quip when searching for Mama Hawke.
Modifié par Icy Magebane, 04 avril 2011 - 04:00 .
DoNotIngest wrote...
Link3521 wrote...
The line that bugged me the most from Anders was when you got to the foundry where Quentin hides while looking for your mother, he says "I wonder if we'll find more than a bag of bones this time" or something like that, I mean what an insensitive a******!!! I'm over there desperately looking for my mother and hoping that she's still alive and he goes on to say a stupid and insensitive joke? Really???? I wish there was an option to kill him in a more satisfying way, such as slicing his throat or something, the stab in the back just doesn't do it for me >.>
I'd like to see him die via Human Battering Ram (Aveline).
Icy Magebane wrote...
Since this thread is starting to discuss Fenris, let me say I don't think he's a hypocrite. Fenris says that there is a big difference between slaves and mages, and that's true. While Fenris is indeed a living weapon, he is not prone to demonic possession, whereas all mages are at risk. Now, regardless of whether or not I agree with that statement, there is no hypocrisy.
Modifié par ishmaeltheforsaken, 04 avril 2011 - 04:03 .
He doesn't use magic. He doesn't have a connection to the Fade and to demons, which if you listen to his conversations is the 'power' he feels mages should not be trusted with. Because they are often too weak to resist the temptations of demons and blood magic.ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
Anders should be locked up because he can set fire to people with his mind, but Fenris himself shouldn't be locked up even though he can phase through people's chests and crush their hearts? That just doesn't fly with me.
[EDIT] I initially felt that Fenris was pretty consistent with his views, until I thought about how much magic he himself actually uses.
I took the look after he said that to mean he blurted it out in the heat of the moment and immediately regretted it. And he apologized afterwards, so there's that.Miri1984 wrote...
Re: Fenris Also his "What does magic touch that it doesn't spoil" just before he boinks my Mage!Hawke made me
o_O a little.
Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 04 avril 2011 - 04:11 .
Northern Sun wrote...
It's the "Why did she[Keeper] have to die instead of you?" to Merrill in her quest that sealed it for me. Especially since she's the only one who doesn't express a desire to kill him at the end.
Miri1984 wrote...
@ishmaeltheforsaken The only thing they
agree about is how much they hate Merrill. Makes for maxing
friendship/rivalry with them both really easy. Pretty much EVERYTHING
Anders likes, Fenris hates and vice versa. I had them both in my party
for most of Act I and they were polar opposite maxed by the end with
little to no effort on my part.
Aris Ravenstar wrote...
He doesn't use magic.
He doesn't have a connection to the Fade and to demons, which if you listen to his conversations is the 'power' he feels mages should not be trusted with. Because they are often to weak to resists the temptations of demons and blood magic.
Anders is a dangerous abomination, he's a danger to everyone around him not because he shoots fireballs but because he's fused with an inhuman creature of the Fade who makes him do unpredictable things. He's the very example of an irresponsible mage in Fenris' eyes. And still Fenris told Sebastian he wouldn't turn either of them in.
Furthermore, there's a fundemental difference between being 'locked up' to protect others from you and your crazy and being enslaved, abused and used to kill and abuse others. Fenris never said he deserved the powers the markings give him either, he uses them because if he doesn't then he will be captured and murdered by slavers. Not by templars who think it's their duty to protect others from him, but people who just want him dead for money or their own selfish gain.
Fenris did nothing to deserve being locked up. Anders has. If Anders hadn't fused with Justice, maybe he'd have the moral high ground.
Modifié par ishmaeltheforsaken, 04 avril 2011 - 04:14 .
gamestress wrote...
When he starts running down Elthina to Sebastian. She was about the only sane person in town.
Most Definitely Sane wrote...
Personally I think Orsino makes Merrill look like Einstein.
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