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[TEWR]

So we know Witch Hunt takes place 2.5 years after DA:O, at least according to the wiki it does (they also state Awakening takes place 6 months after Origins.) Where they get this I don't know but if this isn't the actual timeframe it would be nice if the actual timeframe of when Awakening, GoA, and WH happens after Origins could be given to us by say, the developers. Anyway....

So in the meeting with King Alistair, Bann Teagan will state that the "Hero of Ferelden should be back in Denerim by now". Well, for those of us who sent our Warden through the Eluvian, to encounter this we go "WTF?!". At first glance, it is either A) a very bad import related bug or a hint that Witch Hunt has not yet happened.

But what if it is C)?

C) A clever political maneuver by Teagan and Alistair to keep the information about the Warden's mysterious disappearance as sealed off from the public eye as much as possible.

of course I believe it's either A) or . And also, this is all just speculation really. So feel free to point and laugh at me or do what you will.

[Gavinthelocust]

I always thought Witch Hunt took place after DA2, otherwise why would the Ferelden circle mages even bring it up if nothing important happened there?

[The Angry One]

The game doesn't read anything from Witch Hunt, I think.

[IRMcGhee]

He does say "should be" though, it seems to me that they'd only know that the Warden went off to check out Flemeth's hut. They'd have no idea what happened to him/her until much later, if at all.

[Icy Magebane]

I kind of like option C. That's a clever idea. But I'm pretty sure the devs have stated that nothing from WH is imported to DA2... well, at least, the flags imported, but are not used for this game.

[Shadowrun1177]

As far as I know currently the game takes nothing from the Golems or Witch Hunt dlc. Which considering the Warden possibly going with Morrigan through the mirror seems like an odd choice for Bioware to ignore that completely. The only dlc I think the game current acknowledges is Wardens Keep, Stone Prisoner, and Return to Ostagar all of which take place during Origins and Awakenings expansion.

[TEWR]

Gavinthelocust wrote...

I always thought Witch Hunt took place after DA2, otherwise why would the Ferelden circle mages even bring it up if nothing important happened there?

what they say, I believe, is that there are a bunch of refugees outside of Kirkwall's gates and that they're not being let in. I could be wrong though.

It would really be nice if we could get an accurate timeline of events from the devs. It wouldn't even be spoilery, just like

9:30 Dragon - Blight begins


and just take it from there. At least then all this nonsense about "plot holes" and "how the devs have already ruined the series" (haven't seen that one yet, but who knows) and whatnot would stop and people could just, for lack of a more polite phrasing, shut the f*** up already.

edit: I know Witch Hunt isn't really used for DA2 as far as storyline goes, but still. Stuff doesn't really add up. I just want to make sense of everything, y'know?

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 04 avril 2011 - 02:38 .

[IRMcGhee]

The Angry One wrote...

The game doesn't read anything from Witch Hunt, I think.

I'm fairly sure it does, although I'm not sure if it's used in the base game. I know Sketch turns up (but I've never completed the mission, so I don't know if the events of WH are referenced) and I know the import summary lists what happened in WH, so there must be some reason for it to take note of that (even if it's for future DLC).

Modifié par IRMcGhee, 04 avril 2011 - 02:38 .

[Curlain]

Shadowrun1177 wrote...

As far as I know currently the game takes nothing from the Golems or Witch Hunt dlc. Which considering the Warden possibly going with Morrigan through the mirror seems like an odd choice for Bioware to ignore that completely. The only dlc I think the game current acknowledges is Wardens Keep, Stone Prisoner, and Return to Ostagar all of which take place during Origins and Awakenings expansion.

Indeed, it certainly would have been of relevance to Merrill and her quest (even more so with a Dalish Warden save)

[da0Xeffect2]

I've heard some ideas that the Warden came back. Maybe the Warden learned something and needed to come back.
No one knows where exactly he went when they went through the Eluvian so anything could've happened in there

Modifié par da0Xeffect2, 04 avril 2011 - 02:40 .

[Icy Magebane]

@IRMcGhee: Sketch is from Leliana's Song... you're probably thinking of Finn.

[IRMcGhee]

Oh yeah, that's right. Thanks. In which case DA2 doesn't seem to use anything from WH as yet.

[TEWR]

da0Xeffect2 wrote...

I've heard some ideas that the Warden came back. Maybe the Warden learned something and needed to come back.
No one knows where exactly he went when they went through the Eluvian so anything could've happened in there

If he did come back and it was without Morrigan and his OGB that he (at least my Dwarf Noble, Human Noble, and Human Mage) wanted to see and raise, I will be severely pissed off. Flemeth was killed once, she can be killed again. and again. and again.

Sure it may get tiresome and repetitive, but think of the XP!

[Statulos]

Shadowrun1177 wrote...

As far as I know currently the game takes nothing from the Golems or Witch Hunt dlc. Which considering the Warden possibly going with Morrigan through the mirror seems like an odd choice for Bioware to ignore that completely. The only dlc I think the game current acknowledges is Wardens Keep, Stone Prisoner, and Return to Ostagar all of which take place during Origins and Awakenings expansion.

What is exactly mentioned from Return to Ostagar?

[IRMcGhee]

Avernus gets a mention with a little quest attached.

[KennethAFTopp]

da0Xeffect2 wrote...

I've heard some ideas that the Warden came back. Maybe the Warden learned something and needed to come back.
No one knows where exactly he went when they went through the Eluvian so anything could've happened in there

Well the Grey Warden Stroud was on some kind of special mission could be related to that.

[TEWR]

Avernus is from Warden's Keep.
As far as RtO goes, nothing is mentioned. Unless you count Alistair saying "Empress Celene is trying her best" as a RtO mention.
In which case, I'm walking away from my computer if someone says that and here is my reaction to it if it is in fact said:

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 04 avril 2011 - 02:51 .

[Brockololly]

Yeah....If you go by Witch Hunt's webpage, the description says that:

Nearly a year has passed since the Archdemon's death, and word has reached the Wardens that Morrigan has returned to Ferelden.

Then in Witch Hunt, the icons like Denerim or Vigil's Keep make reference to it being several years since the Archdemon's attack on Denerim or several years since the Mother's attack on Vigil's Keep. So it would seem that if Awakening takes place about 6 months post Origins, Witch Hunt starts anywhere from 1 year post Archdemon death or up to a couple years since the end of Origins.

So I really don't see Witch Hunt taking place after Alistair and Teagan visit Kirkwall in Year 7. Like has been said, the chatter in the Circle Tower makes reference to Ferelden refugees going to Kirkwall, which would mostly coincide with probably Year 1-2 for Hawke, as thats pretty fresh after the Blight.Its likely as others have said, an oversight or maybe a bug, as DA2 does not do anything with the flag from Witch Hunt.

I'd guess the timeline goes:
9:30- Events of DAO start
9:31- Events of DAO end, Archdemon defeated.
--> 6 months into 9:31- Events of Awakening
9:32-9:34?- Events of Witch Hunt


I just don't imagine a Warden that went through the Eluvian with Morrigan to stop back in Denerim and then to go disappear again by Year 10 when Cassandra mentions the Warden being "gone," which in this case could likely be "gone" through the Eluvian.

Modifié par Brockololly, 04 avril 2011 - 02:53 .

[Statulos]

IRMcGhee wrote...

Avernus gets a mention with a little quest attached.

That is not Return to Ostagar, that´s Warden´s Castle.

[IRMcGhee]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Avernus is from Warden's Keep.

 I think I should shut up until i've played DA:O again 

[Merced652]

The Angry One wrote...

The game doesn't read anything from Witch Hunt, I think.

indeed, worthless DLC to complete "your warden's" story is worthless. 

[TEWR]

Merced652 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

The game doesn't read anything from Witch Hunt, I think.

indeed, worthless DLC to complete "your warden's" story is worthless. 

I believe one of the devs comments was that it currently has no plot flags or that it has no overall effect on the current  DA2 story.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 04 avril 2011 - 03:15 .

[Magicman10893]

I think that if you go through the Eluvian with Morrigan that the Warden comes back at some point after he's learned something about the true nature of Flemeth or whatever. And then he goes the way of Revan to fight some great evil from far away only to never be heard from again.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I want Knights of the Old Republic 3 and not some MMO, damn it!

[stobie]

Well, it *says* it reads something from Witch Hunt! It may not - I didn't see any evidence of it, but I imported my last save, where Morrigan went through the mirror. Therefore, it has to be assumed that witch hunt happened before. (well, before act 3 anyway)

Otherwise, why list that in the plot summaries?


Oh - and perhaps the mirror allows for Quick Beaming.  One never knows. 

Modifié par stobie, 04 avril 2011 - 03:30 .

[TEWR]

stobie wrote...

Well, it *says* it reads something from Witch Hunt! It may not - I didn't see any evidence of it, but I imported my last save, where Morrigan went through the mirror. Therefore, it has to be assumed that witch hunt happened before. (well, before act 3 anyway)

Otherwise, why list that in the plot summaries?


Oh - and perhaps the mirror allows for Quick Beaming.  One never knows. 

My god.... they've figured out how to be beamed up! Screw Scotty, all we need is a fancy mirror!