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DA2 doesnt make you care about anything


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Ksandor

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graavigala85 wrote...

I just finished the game for second time now and I tried to play as complete opposite to what I played for first time so I would have little ground to what Im saying.

Both times your sibling dies and that is ment to be something deep and traumating to see your sister/brother die. I would agree on that but the characters who appear with you are nothing but empty shells running around healing you or doing more damage to enemies. 
So when either one of them dies it doesnt matter, they are no one important to you. But when you have to kill Avelines husband that has more impact to you than seeing your brother/sister die. Why? Because you are given atleast a little change to get to know the character!

Second big trauma that happens is when you are in deeproads and your sibling dies in there to Corruption or is recruited by Warden or just goes and joins the Templar or is dragged to Circle. So what? Then my biggest concern was that the bastards took my gear! MY FRIGGING STAFF OF PARLANTHA WAS TAKEN!!!!

When your mother dies that wasnt so much sad but just nasty, whole Frankenstein thing is really creepy thing in general and in here Bioware did manage to make it work but not in the way it was ment to be. You have no connection to your mother and I really didnt give one damn about losing her because she was already shadow to be seen rarely.

You can have no impact on the ending what so ever. You are forced to choose between two factions who you have very little interaction with, almost zero with the mages. Maybe one or two quests with the actual Circle itself and only thing you hear and see about the circle mages is that all are crazy bloodmages... Ye you really want to join those ****s?
Whole time in the game everyone says that Templars are the bad choice but when you it comes to the end even the mage leader goes ape**** with blodmage and you are left with the "wrong" choice to join those ****s. Even your teammates say its bad idea expect the bloodmage Elf and Anders, but I really dont give crap about his oppinions.
So why would I want to care to join up with people who I have no idea who they are? With templars you atleast had some jobs to do so you got little more info about them and their mtives but the mages are left in the dark. I didnt even know who the Mage leader was until the begining of Act3. And he was supposed to be main character of game! Way to go and introduce main characters to a game Bioware. In future  why not hold of and show us the hero of the game after the end credits?

So in the end the story feels empty and there is really nothing in the mainstory that makes you care what you do. You are nothing but delivery guy, sword to hire, mailman of death.

All these shortcomings could have been avoided with by just adding few more actual quests and less "Bring this finger to that man". More time on actually introducing the characters who are in the game is needed and not just giving some quick mentioning of them during random encounter.



Agreed except I cared about Bethany and she is removed from the party. Thanks Bioware for removing the only acceptable character from the game. As for Mum. Yeah I seem to remember Hawke having a mum. She was kidnapped and turned into a Frankie girl.  I am impressed. How dramatic! How connected to the game! Bioware (maybe Gaider): "Yo guys! You forgot to put drama in the game. People willl be pissed off!" Some writer: "Ohh... OK. Let's make Hawke's mum a Frankie freak." Gaider: "Yeah! That was great man. What a plot twist! Oh it is so dramatic that I cannot look at it, my eyes hurt! Your intellect shines like a bright star!" Blowing out of proportion? No more than the whole DA II itself. Bah!

#127
graavigala85

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stobie wrote...

It didn't make *you* care. I, otoh, did care, & more so than about Origins. I cared most about the city elves in Origins, yet my city elf rogue comes to Denerim, finds the alienage purged, then goes on happy quests to pick pocket people. I respected Morrigan, liked Alistair & Zevran, & didn't care one bit about the others. That doesn't mean the others were worthless - only that they didn't appeal to *me.*

God - I hate topics like this. Why wouldn't you just say, "It didn't make ME care?" Ugh.

Other than Sebastian, I cared about all of them. I didn't like Carver, but his death in the Deep Roads was wonderful. I became teary, as I did with Wesley's death.


I didnt say that it doesnt make ME, I said YOU, as in YOU the person who is now reading and there are lot of people who agree and disagree.