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[Amagoi]

I'd love to see Qunari vs Tal-Vashoth. It'd be an interesting way of seeing Duty vs Freedom, and how too much of either can be bad. But I'm biased- I just want more Qunari. Outside of them, the Dwarven Traditonalists and the Progressives is very interesting to me. Being so politically driven as a society, you know there'd be a lot of juicy back room deals and assassinations. It'd be almost like Game of Thrones... but with shorter, beardier people.

Ooh, and since there's rumors of Orlias vs Ferelden coming back up, I'd love to see that from an Orlesian standpoint. Maybe as someone that could drastically affect Orlesian unity and how the war goes for either side. Another situation that would have a lot of intrigue in it, though a lot more weird French accents.. which will be hard. How many english speaking French v.a.'s are there?

[Lithuasil]

Dark Specie wrote...
Oh, come on, if we were to, say, take part in the whole Tevinter-Par Vollen conflict, then that would be a fairly grey - or Black and Grey - situation! On one side, we have enslaving, bloodmagicking Tevinter magister lords who stops at nothing to gain power and on the other side, we have the Qunari, who demands that you surrender to the teachings to the Qun, taking away people's freedoms with it, tears families apart, makes mindless workers out of those who refuse to convert and treats mages like animals or worse. In short, both sides would be portrayed as fairly grey - or at best it'd be a dark vs dark scenario, in which you'd have to choose which the elsser evil here. If done rightly (not as poorly as in the case of DA2's Mage-Templar/Orsino & Meredith situation) then it could be a fairly interesting scenario

The tevinter citizens could all live on a diet entirely composed of young, fluffy animals, consumed raw, and they'd still look like saints next to the Qunari   

The problem is - the Qunari are, by the very definition of how their society works, one dimensional. The moment, the qunari are not severed from their society, like the sten, and the ones in kirkwall, all possible player interaction within established lore is narrowed down to "rawr grey, horned hulk smash" or "convert, please leave your brain in the bucket near the door". There's no way to make interaction with the main branch of qunari society interesting, without bending the established lore backwards, well beyond breaking.

[mousestalker]

Black Chantry vs White Chantry in a theological no holds barred steel cage match. Last theologian to declare the others heretics wins!

Modifié par mousestalker, 05 avril 2011 - 01:32 .

[Lithuasil]

mousestalker wrote...

Black Chantry vs White Chantry in a theological no holds barred steel cage match. Last theologian to declare the others heretics wins!

Fool, you've activated my ex-communication card 

[KnightofPhoenix]

Maria Caliban wrote...
Qunari vs Tevinter (and everyone else)
White Chantry vs Black Chantry

I think both could be done at the same time, though with mroe emphasis on one.

I'd prefer Tevinter vs Qunari, with a bit of Black vs White Chantry lore (and hopefully Ancient Imperum lore).

Second comes the Dwarves. Progressive vs traditionalist.  In the ideal game, it would have Bhelen in it, modernizing his people and being awesome at cutthroat politics.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 05 avril 2011 - 01:53 .

[Dark Specie]

Lithuasil wrote...
The tevinter citizens could all live on a diet entirely composed of young, fluffy animals, consumed raw, and they'd still look like saints next to the Qunari   

Thanks a lot, I almost spit out the water I was drinking as I read that

Lithuasil wrote...
The problem is - the Qunari are, by the very definition of how their society works, one dimensional. The moment, the qunari are not severed from their society, like the sten, and the ones in kirkwall, all possible player interaction within established lore is narrowed down to "rawr grey, horned hulk smash" or "convert, please leave your brain in the bucket near the door". There's no way to make interaction with the main branch of qunari society interesting, without bending the established lore backwards, well beyond breaking.

That's a problem for the writters to solve   .

Still, it can be argued that the Qunari have the most functioning society in the DA verse, which is something, at least.

[Morroian]

Mage vs templar but with more nuance than displayed in Act 3 of DA2, related to that would be the internal conflict within the chantry.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Morroian wrote...

Mage vs templar but with more nuance than displayed in Act 3 of DA2, related to that would be the internal conflict within the chantry.

The Divine, IIRC, is almost on her death bed and in such circumstances, her succession might be a very interesting and messy plot line.

Indeed, since there are hints of the sequel being in Orlais, I think this would be a major issue to be delt with. That plus Chantry / templar / seekers dynamic in the context (seemingly) of a massive mage uprising. Add to that the position of Empress Celene, bards...etc. 

EDIT: actually apparently the previous divine was already dead and the one from Leliana's song replaced her. Still, internaal Chantry dynamics could be interesting. Apparently the new Divien was not that popular.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 05 avril 2011 - 02:07 .

[Raiil]

I admit to having a huge gaping soft spot for underdog sorts. So for me, I'm interested in Ferelden vs Orlais, and The Chantry/Traditionalists versus everyone who doesn't agree.


There are a surprising amount of forces that are either blantantly anti-Chantry (the Dalish, and now the mages, come to mind) or people who, while they're not anti-Chantry, hold views in severe contrast to the Chantry. King Alistair and his dislike of how mages are treated. City elves who probably don't particularly care for the Chantry. People who come from situations like Kirkwall where the chantry holds too much sway. Etc etc.


Basically I want war to come, balls to the wall, and the world to be lit on fire.

[Lithuasil]

Dark Specie wrote...

Thanks a lot, I almost spit out the water I was drinking as I read that

I aim to please  

That's a problem for the writters to solve   .

Still, it can be argued that the Qunari have the most functioning society in the DA verse, which is something, at least.

Or the least functioning, depending on how much you value ethics

The only way I can see, would be to exclude the PC from the whole "determined role and absolute obdedience" thing, but another pc that's above the law, is the last thing I want in future DA games.
If the conflict is to be addressed, it'd imho be the best to make the whole "freeing seheron" business merely the screen for an internal tevinter conflict, for example on how to deal with the new situation in thedas, that might arise once the templars and mages are done with each other.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Lithuasil wrote...

[...] the Qunari are, by the very definition of how their society works, one dimensional. The moment, the qunari are not severed from their society, like the sten, and the ones in kirkwall, all possible player interaction within established lore is narrowed down to "rawr grey, horned hulk smash" or "convert, please leave your brain in the bucket near the door". There's no way to make interaction with the main branch of qunari society interesting, without bending the established lore backwards, well beyond breaking.

That's about the best description of the qunari I have seen. I desribed them as being binary zealots with no personalities. To me they feel like the geth. But even the geth are more interesting, because they have developed some kind of creative and independent thought that caused the existence of hostile and non-hostile geth. The quanri only have the Qun. Reasoning outside that seems impossible and thus they would be boring. Good for a fight, but nothing else.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 05 avril 2011 - 02:17 .

[levi.porphyrogenitus]

There are a few I'd really love to see. Naturally, Tevinter features heavily.

1 - "White" Chantry v Imperial Chantry (Black Chantry, I must assume, is a derogatory name used by Orlesian lickspittles). I'd love to get an Imperial Chantry perspective on the whole schism (very likely, they'd claim that, just like the real-world Orthodox Church, they were the original Chantry and the Orlesians split off from them).

2 - Tevinter v Qunari. The Qunari are starting to make more sense as a people after DA2, but I'd love to see somebody actually fighting back effectively. The continuous conflict with the Imperium seems like the ideal venue. Plus, we'd get to see actual Tevinter military units in action, as opposed to far-flung mercenaries working for evil bad guy mages.

3 - Tevinter Templars/Circles v Orlesian Templars v Orlesian Circles. Since the Orlesian Mage Circles are apparently in widespread rebellion now, and often seem to cite the Tevinter Circles as inspiration, I have to imagine that the conflict with the Templars would rapidly develop a third side, which may or may not welcome the friendship of their Orlesian counterparts. Also, getting a much better look at the alternative relationship between mages and Templars that seems to exist in the Imperium should be interesting.

4 - "Good" Tevinter mages v bad ones (I have to assume that Tevinter isn't exclusively run by evil, demon-dealing slave-murdering thug mages). I think that a game that at least mentions this (potential) conflict would really help to flesh out Tevinter, to humanise it more than it currently is. Codex entries are one thing, but if all the Tevinter NPCs are evil murderous bastards, then that is the standard by which the Imperium as a whole will be judged by the player base. I rather suspect that the main reason such unpleasant mages are the ones most common elsewhere in Thedas is at least partly because they are unwelcome in the Imperium proper.

[sphinxess]

The breakup of the chantry - in Fereldan and elsewhere the meanings in the chant are reworked - the Divine attempts to stop this - the original writings of Andraste <the mage> are found

Modifié par sphinxess, 05 avril 2011 - 04:19 .

[Remmirath]

All of them are fairly interesting to me.

The Dalish/human conflict (or more general elves/humans) and the Qunari/Tevinter conflict (which I see as mainly a question of which the lesser of two evils are) are probably the ones I'm most interested in, although the Dalish/human one doesn't seem to be going anywhere at this time. If it were, however, those two would be tied for me - I'd be hard pressed to pick between them.
I would find a game centering around either of those intriguing.

The White Chantry/Black Chantry thing I also find interesting, but to my mind it would probably work out better as a background plot rather than the focus of an entire game (probably because I'm simply not as interested in the Chantry as I am in the other things). It seems to me it could fit in with either of the two I already mentioned.

[Statulos]

I´d go for Ferelden-Orlails. The 100 Years War combined with the Black Death and the Peasant Revolutions made a very, very interesting point in European history.

In that sense, I think future Dragon Age games should insert the themes of pesant revolutions starting with reinterpretations of the faith in the Maker.

[LadyBri]

Honestly, I'm so invested in this series I would play any of the stories listed above.

But, if I had to choose something it would be the ~hopefully~ continued downfall of the Chantry and more/any information on Flemeth, Morrigan, and the OGB.

[Cavalier753]

I still like my first warden death idea a lot though.

[Back2basics]

Ferelden vs Orlais

[Parrk]

Dalish vs. shoes

Tread lightly, and carry a big monacle!

Tophats on all dalish in 3!

The time for messin' round is over....




Isabella Gump vs. The Qun
"Raccoons come up on our porch, Varric chase em off with a broom!"

Modifié par Parrk, 05 avril 2011 - 08:04 .

[sylvanaerie]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Nugs vs. Kirkwall

The Battle of the Squealing Plains will not be forgotten...

Nor is it spoken of in polite company

I don't really care one way or another what new conflicts they introduce or the way they will handle the current ones (Ferelden vs Orlais, as King Alistair points out, they want their province back), mages/templars revolting (yes, they stink on ice), Qunari invasions (Arishok does say they will be back).  There is a rich enough story to be gleaned from current conflicts but I am sure the PtB at Bioware have a few more tricks up their sleeves.
I just want to be around for the ride, it looks to be a fun one!

[kaimanaMM]

Chantry vs. Chantry in a knockdown, drag out, no holds barred, bring out your bards, slaves and priests kind of fight!

Ok, I was kidding about the priests.

I'm also interested in Tevinter vs. Qunari.  But then, I'm pretty interested in Tevinter overall.

Meanwhile, in Orlais, Gucci vs. Prada.

[Sammyjb]

I think the idea the OP had was great with choosing between Tevinter (power, more freedom to the people) the Qunari (order, but confined to a role, ruthless) and trying to free Seheron from both factions (hopeless, disorganized).

[S Atomeha]

a mix of all. Orlais invades Ferelden, Tevinter uses invasion as an excuse,invades Orlais to impose its chantry. Orlesian apostates join Tevinter(templars rejoin the white divine in this war), Qunari invade Tevinter in full force.
player captured during a battle with orlais you meet sandal while captured.
there.

[sphinxess]

Nevarra doesnt burn its dead - it places them in Tombs.....

DA3 The Rise of the LIch King!!!

Modifié par sphinxess, 05 avril 2011 - 10:13 .