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[Kenshen]

I think it will depend on when DA3 takes place. Bodahn tells you in act 3 they are going to Orlais cause he is getting old and is worried about Sandal's future without him. So Bodahn's run at least will be coming to an end soonish.

[Halo Quea]

Amagoi wrote...

jds1bio wrote...

So does that mean there is a yet-to-be-discovered Rune of Gump?

Life is like a box of enchantments.

I could see Bodhan and Sandal filling that role, even though it's pretty forced and cringe worthy sometimes. Wade and Herren would have worked better as that old couple that the droids could sometimes be interpreted as.

If that's what they are, I hope that's all they'll be. Please no big Sandal revelations. That would just be too much.

Wade and Herren would have been awesome!    *sigh* , I miss those guys

[Parrk]

Am I the only one who found it disturbing how Bodahn seems to be aging at approximately 4x the rate of other characters?

I think they are setting up an Bodahn-less Sandal in 3, but I'm wrong a lot.

[JabbaDaHutt30]

jds1bio wrote...

Darth Obvious wrote...

@OP:

Hardly. R2 and C-3PO are characters that are part of the group dynamic. They participate in the events of the story and alter it for their part in it. They are true characters.

In contrast, Sandal and Bodahn barely do anything. They're hardly more than somewhat colorful wallpaper. Duh.

So if the Warden didn't save Sandal and Bodhan from highwaymen and darkspawn, then the warden would have gotten rumors, enchantments, and equipment from someone else?  Maybe.  But would he/she have made it through to the archdemon by him/herself?  Don't know, since Sandal definitely helped somehow.

So if Sandal hadn't stopped the Darkspawn in the Deep Roads, Hawke would have done it instead?  Maybe, but we don't know since Sandal definitely helped somehow.

I wouldn't call that barely doing anything, but perhaps on Casual Difficulty for you they barely do anything.

But all the mystery surrounding Sandal's origin, possible relationship with Flemeth, and prophesizing are reason enough to keep them around through the saga.

You CAN get rumours/equipment from someone else. And enchantment is more of a gameplay function on Sandal's part. There are probably a LOT of Tranquil mages who could work enchantment; Sandal's just there to fill in a function: he is by no means a necessity according to lore.

[jds1bio]

Parrk wrote...

Am I the only one who found it disturbing how Bodahn seems to be aging at approximately 4x the rate of other characters?

I think they are setting up an Bodahn-less Sandal in 3, but I'm wrong a lot.

Yeah, it's like they really want Conchata Ferrell to play Bodahn in the live-action Dragon Age movie.

[jds1bio]

Also, I'm digging how guys named Darth and Jabba The Hutt are contributing to this thread.

[Gavinthelocust]

I hate the comparison to Star Wars, a series that has been driven into the ground so many times I'm convinced it made it all the way to the other side of the earth then escaped into orbit while jumping a space shark. But this is a pretty good way of describing them.

[TheBlackBaron]

I'll be "that guy" and point out that Lucas borrowed the idea of telling the story from the point of view of its lowliest characters from "The Hidden Fortress".

But yes, they certainly are shaping up to be like that, although I hope Sandal remains just a savant that occasionally displays incredible and inexplicable abilities. You've already got the theory floating around on the internet that R2 was the Rebellion's top spy and field agent during the period between RotS and New Hope.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 06 avril 2011 - 01:58 .

[Beerfish]

The Angry One wrote...

I agree that there's no need to make Sandal anything more than he is, a Lyrium-addled savant.

But.. you know they will. He'll probably end up being Dumat or something.

Eh?  How can you say  that when he was made more from early on by his mysterious destruction of dark spawn.  He was more than the norm at the end of DAO, whether that was intended or not from the beginning he is obviously already more than just a lyrium addled savant.

[Darth Obvious]

jds1bio wrote...

Darth Obvious wrote...

@OP:

Hardly. R2 and C-3PO are characters that are part of the group dynamic. They participate in the events of the story and alter it for their part in it. They are true characters.

In contrast, Sandal and Bodahn barely do anything. They're hardly more than somewhat colorful wallpaper. Duh.

So if the Warden didn't save Sandal and Bodhan from highwaymen and darkspawn, then the warden would have gotten rumors, enchantments, and equipment from someone else?  

Who cares? And what does that have to do with Star Wars?

Nothing.

jds1bio wrote...

Maybe.  But would he/she have made it through to the archdemon by him/herself?  Don't know, since Sandal definitely helped somehow.

So if Sandal hadn't stopped the Darkspawn in the Deep Roads, Hawke would have done it instead?  Maybe, but we don't know since Sandal definitely helped somehow.

You seem to reading quite a lot into what amounts to very little actual story regarding Sandal. Regardless, you still haven't shown even the slightest bit of connection to R2 and C-3PO.

jds1bio wrote...

I wouldn't call that barely doing anything, but perhaps on Casual Difficulty for you they barely do anything.

Could you try to think of something even more ignorant to say? The difficulty setting has nothing to do with the story. Sandal and Bodahn barely do anything, and are merely there as a cheap plot device. Completely unnecessary, and if Sandal hadn't been mentally challenged, completely forgettable.

[Ealos]

I'm just looking forward to them interviewing DA3's protagonist: "Well, we've not been up to much the last few years, just, well, accompanying the Hero of Ferelden during the Blight. Oh, and the Champion of Kirkwall during all that mess over there. So yeah, we're expecting rather a lot from you, to be honest..."

[Galf706]

aryon69 wrote...

I think it will depend on when DA3 takes place. Bodahn tells you in act 3 they are going to Orlais cause he is getting old and is worried about Sandal's future without him. So Bodahn's run at least will be coming to an end soonish.

Bodhan and Sandal are forever.  DA3 will take place during the 7th Blight 1200 years after the events of DA2, and the time traveling offspring of the Warden, the Champion, and Morrigan's Godbaby will have to stop it it with Bodhan and Sandal by his/her side. 

[Dasha Dreyson]

Does that make Morrigan's baby Luke?

Yeah, when I first launched DA2, I took one look at Carver and thought "oh look, it's Anakin the Mannequin." Later I decided that I really did like his character and how he was written, but wasn't surprised when he turned Templar my first playthrough.

So yeah, I can see them that way easily. Let's just hope neither goes all HK-47.

Modifié par Dasha Dreyson, 06 avril 2011 - 04:55 .

[The Angry One]

Beerfish wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

I agree that there's no need to make Sandal anything more than he is, a Lyrium-addled savant.

But.. you know they will. He'll probably end up being Dumat or something.

Eh?  How can you say  that when he was made more from early on by his mysterious destruction of dark spawn.  He was more than the norm at the end of DAO, whether that was intended or not from the beginning he is obviously already more than just a lyrium addled savant.

So? We don't need to know how he did that.
Besides he could just be doing it with enchantment.

[jds1bio]

Lyrium makes people do some crazy things in the Dragon Age universe.