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[Jubez187]

So I'm deciding which of the two to get.  My first playthough I got battle synergy.  It sounded amazing..flat damage reduction, defense is meh but I'll take it, then the upgrade that transfers 50% threat to you.  I was using a SnS warrior and I really was having trouble keeping the threat on me because my Fenris had unreal damage output.  The only problem is, and I wish I had realized this before hand, 10m is NOTHING.  It worked well with Fenris because we were usually choppin-it-up on the front lines, but it never was effective for my ranged companions.

Ok so, second playthrough, thinking about going Bravery this time.  Crit chance and attack is meh to me because I don't usually like dealing with RNG, but the threat generation bonus seems like it will prove more useful than Battle Synergy's because it will always effect the person that it needs to.  Does anyone have proficient experience with both skills?

inb4 some pro comes in and tells me that both suck and I should get good

EDIT: as i browsed the characters and builds sub-form, I noticed that there was already 2 topics about these two skills.  It's pretty funny because I have been meaning to make this post for weeks and the day I do there's already two posts.  So feel free to ignore this one

Modifié par Jubez187, 04 avril 2011 - 07:15 .

[Running_Blind]

It really depends how many allies you have in a really close proximity. I was playing around with a DPS focused SnS Hawke with Elemental Aegis and a couple of Ice and Fire warding Runes, Isabella with the runes and and two warding accessories, Anders specc'd for AoE DPS and Varric with the Bianca tree.

Hawke would be in the middle, typically focusing on the Elite/Boss. Isabela would typically be on the other side of the baddies backstabbing the elite or any other annoying enemy and occasionally using Evade to avoid an Assault or Scatter. Ander's would be behind Hawke nuking the area or protecting the party's flanks with Glyphs. Varric would be slightly behind/at the side of Ander's Setting up DISORIENTATE, Debuffs and Obscure with Fatiguing Fog, taking advantage of BRITTLE with Archer's Lance and Bursting Arrow as well as occasionally using Armistice and Goad.

With Hawke getting 50% of everyone's threat that was very rarely an issue, if there was any threat problems on Ander's or Varric, Isabella had Twin Fangs at the ready. If they went after Isabella or Varric they could stealth or Ander's could use a Glyph.

Is it the most the most powerful min-max party combo ever devised? No. Could I use it successfully through 90% of Nightmare and still have the tools to change things up for the other 10%? Yup.

EDIT: Completely went of on a tangent and forgot about Bravery.

At first you'd think Bravery would be better for a two-hander, seeing as how it's a lot harder to be immune to elemental damage than physical and that they're exceptional at cleaving through large groups of normal enemies.

I suppose the attack boost would be great at lower levels, until it naturally reaches the 90s. Then maybe you could capitalise on the boost to your critical rate with runes and equipment, Fenris' Lyrium Ghost is just plain awesome.

The damage boost upgrade seems a bit lacklustre, especially considering the damage output you get with Blood Frenzy/Veneer of Calm and Cleave. It's not terrible, but it's not great.

As for the threat... With the damage output and AoE of a two-hander is threat that much of a problem? Maybe against the enemy commander's who can re-direct threat?

I've not put a lot of time into a two-hander, so that's mostly conjecture.

Modifié par Running_Blind, 05 avril 2011 - 11:19 .

[stjasonl1]

I'd say Battle Synergy the threat aspect is same in both, I think, but the upgrades in Battle Synergy are much better for Aveline there is a 25% damage transfer and defense boost, plus she's not doing much damage anyway. If your talking about Hawke being a 2 hander it might not be the best.

[Atmosfear3]

Forget bravery and battle synergy and get cleave. Damage is the best threat.

[Jubez187]

Well I've already beaten the game so now I'm just screwing around with different party set ups. I was most likely going to go SnS DPS/off-tank Hawke, tanky aveline, and Isabella (never recruited her in first playthrough) then Anders in the back. Seeing as I already used battle synergy in the first playthrough, I figured I'd try bravery on either Aveline or Hawke.. Could work out, I can always respect though. I wanted to mess around with DISORIENT + SnS tree, because I heard the damage output is actually quite high.