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[IN1]

rumination888 wrote...

IN1 wrote...

King Something's is evidently immaterial, this build doesn't need it. It was just there in the save I used. And you conveniently forgot that one can use +attribute items to equip other gear with high req's. Of course

Anyway, doesn't take a genius to see this build will perform very well even its damage output gets halved (and it won't). You are free to disagree, of course. For several days, that is: until I post some videos of the same build with realistic stats and it will get much more difficult to deny the obvious

Go for it. Post a vid using practical stats. I can post a vid of a physical SnS warrior(with practical or impractical gear depending on your vid) doing the same section and we can compare.

Now we are talking It's a date!

[IN1]

MrTijger wrote...

SuicidialBaby wrote...

nope, several weapons lack class requirement

Not just that, they lack any requirement, there's no requirement stat either on those, AFAIK

That's not true. There are normal (=adequate for their rank) stat req's on them.

[AreleX]

Dude, you're absolutely nuts.

I am envious of your build creativity and math skills.

[IN1]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Great build! I modded my Spirit Mage to have Holy Smite (because Mind Blast is wussy) and it feels similar:

http://social.biowar...7/index/6773862

But Cleave is really the best ability in this game. Blood Frenzy is perhaps the second.

Have you tried Templar/Berserker with this build? Seems Barrage would have worked nicely with your +600 base attacks.

True, but then I lose: (a) +5% spirit damage; ( +30% animation speed for 10s per kill from Fervor, and, of course, © my biggest damage-booster, Blood Frenzy+Sacrificial Frenzy (potentially, +400%). With Berserker, the pros are: (a) +50% animation speed for 20s; ( +64% permanent damage with nominal CD Adrenalin; © my heavy investment into Wil is put to good use. It was not an easy decision to make, but Reaver is easier to use (to get your permanent +64% from Adrenalin you have to pause literally every second) and, ultimately, nothing beats that BF+SF combo. That said, Berserker/Templar is a viable variation (assuming Templar is non-negotiable).

[IN1]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

^ Very true. Fervor is a worthy substitute for Barrage (when you can't have both). BF+SF also allows you to burst down Assassins, which a staff-wielding Warrior may have problem with (no Warrior weapons to provide knockbacks on the Assassins, no Mage CC skills to shutdown the Assassins).

I notice you use Bravery on almost all of your Warriors. How good do you think it is? Do you use the fully upgraded version?

One more question: You're also using Aura of Pain in this video. Do you keep it on most of the time? I find its damage to be minuscule compared to Wrath of the Elvhen. It drains your health completely in 80 seconds though so it's there mostly for Blood Frenzy purposes I assume?

Thanks!

- Well, Templar has Silence and Righteous Strike, which can block any abilities. They aren't that great when they can only AA you.

- I use Bravery+Bravura only. It is one of the most underrated modal abilities. Invaluable for a soloist, since a non-2H warrior has very few ways to increase crit rate.

- Yes, AoP is used here so I can turn SF on earlier.

- Assail has good duration and a very nice upgrade that practically increases your weapon's arc. Quite valuable for a S&S warrior.

Modifié par IN1, 05 avril 2011 - 12:06 .

[Knal1991]

video reminded me of bulletstorm XD

I see you're wearing the Condom Hat Circlet of the Dreamer?

[IN1]

>I see you're wearing the Condom Hat Circlet of the Dreamer?

Yes. Which I cannot possibly have by any legit means at this stage As stated, that's an artificially constructed character for concept testing purposes: do not expect the damage output from your Allure Templar, if you decide make one (though with an optimized full party setup it won't be very different). I already have my solo warrior run gearing and stat distribution planned, so you'll get some realistic videos of this build's performance in a few days.

[mr_afk]

Wow, that was amazing. Might respec my warrior to this, though i'm thinking i might try berserker/reaver and see if i can turn him into a magical machine-gun haha.

[IN1]

Updated the OP. Will upload another vid where I won't forget to show my gear (probably a bit later today). There are always people willing to assume I used that +1000% everything amulet.

[rumination888]

There we go. See, I knew your damage would be more than halved in a realistic setting.
Its a very glass cannoney build that heavily relies on Bodyguard, though.

...now I need to start an SnS warrior again and record that part of the game.

[IN1]

Still doing quite well, though :-P

Take your time, really.

By the way, if we want our comparison to be at least somewhat meaningful, we should really decide on the use of a symmetrical party/pseudo-party/whatever. For example, it's obvious this guy will have a much harder time without Aveline than a physical S&S warrior would. You see my point.

[SuicidalBaby]

Nice vid.

[IN1]

Uploaded an alternative vid (and a better one, for some reason: both framerate-wise and as a demonstration), where I do not forget to show my gear.

Modifié par IN1, 07 avril 2011 - 07:00 .

[ScroguBlitzen]

>Pre-buff gear: Vestments of the Mystic, Sandals of the Mystic, Ring of Resilience, Air of Confidence, Ring of Unheeded Wisdom, Dull Brass Amulet. 

Can you describe what you're doing when "pre-buffing"?

[IN1]

ScroguBlitzen wrote...

>Pre-buff gear: Vestments of the Mystic, Sandals of the Mystic, Ring of Resilience, Air of Confidence, Ring of Unheeded Wisdom, Dull Brass Amulet. 

Can you describe what you're doing when "pre-buffing"?

Your typical Diablo2 (and DAO) pre-buff Equip +attr gear, equip the item with high req's, unequip +attr gear. The item will stay equipped. That's it.

[IN1]

Updated the OP with end-game video (Last Straw, Templar Hall) and info.

[B3taMaxxx]

I lol'd, then had a shot of vodka. Very nice work IN1! /sends link to all friends

 Question; I didn't see Haste on, was that at normal speed?

Modifié par B3taMaxxx, 08 avril 2011 - 08:34 .

[IN1]

Hmmm... If you are talking about Templars Hall, I cast Haste with Anders immediately after Whirlwind. Of course, it wasn't normal speed at all! It was +85-115%: Haste + Isabela + constant Fervor (if you kill very fast, it will sometimes glitch and stack twice). If it were normal speed with no modifiers, I would have proclaimed it the build to end all other builds

The Qunari video is just Haste + Fervor (probably sometimes x2, as this guy is a fast killer).

Modifié par IN1, 08 avril 2011 - 11:39 .

[IN1]

Your comment makes _me_ wonder whether you have actually read my Act III notes in the OP I advise getting Celebrant as the first Act III quest and using it religiously in any scenario with the obvious exception of ranged attackers (Templar Archers are abundant in Act III). In a full party format (as a matter of fact, I play solo with passive buff-bots) you can stick with the Celebrant all the time, since your party is probably capable of dealing with archers without your help.

[rumination888]

www.youtube.com/watch

I tried to keep our composition as similar as possible. The biggest difference is that instead of using spirit rings for physical weapons, I opted to use much more expensive rings.

I hope what you gleen out of this is that the real power behind our videos isn't in weapon selection, but something else entirely.(and hopefully everyone who watches these videos will come to the realization of what that "something else" is.)

[IN1]

rumination888 wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

I tried to keep our composition as similar as possible. The biggest difference is that instead of using spirit rings for physical weapons, I opted to use much more expensive rings.

I hope what you gleen out of this is that the real power behind our videos isn't in weapon selection, but something else entirely.(and hopefully everyone who watches these videos will come to the realization of what that "something else" is.)

Nice video, thanks. I will postpone the analysis and the detailed comparison till tomorrow or Monday: it requires some close attention to the details, the damage numbers, the relative safety of the characters, etc.

Ah, by the way, what that "something else" is, in your opinion?

[rumination888]

IN1 wrote...
Ah, by the way, what that "something else" is, in your opinion?

Low health, Bodyguard, and Blood Frenzy.

Bravery also deserves a special mention.

Modifié par rumination888, 09 avril 2011 - 06:32 .