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[OraVelnoria87]

My life got at least +10 to happiness after watching Liara do her little dance thing up on my femshep.

Want more please :3

[GuardianAngel470]

Zelnik wrote...

... Do you see the rating on this game? Mature. That means mature content.

That means it was meant for 18+.

at the age of 18, someone can buy a mountain of porn (or get it for free online) for 50 bucks. This porn may (or may not) involve the following: Men, Women, Men/Women, She-Men, Transvestites, transsexuals, vegans, animals, tentacles, aliens, supreme court justices, and a green crayon.

There is NOTHING in Mass Effect that can top the stuff you can find with a few clicks and a little curiosity.

This is NOT Disney Effect... This game is about adults (at least in their mid-thirties for man-shep, probably late 20's, early 30's for femshep) who do adult things... this includes sex. If that happens to be with a turian renegade or the blue skinned 108 year old asari.... so be it.

If Faux News reports on it.... it will give the game a lovely publicity boost and more people will buy the game...

You're entire post is essentially invalidated by the court case currently being reviewed by the US Supreme Court.

The non-gaming community sees the need to protect kids from mature content like *gasp* Halo, Call of Duty, and Mass Effect while ignoring the fact that a rating system exists at all.

M ratings are essentially meaningless to the average non-gamer. Never mind that a kid can steal both an M rated game and an R rated movie more easily than he/she could buy it.

Gamestop does not sell to kids. I've seen gamestop employees tell kids they can't get a game without a parent on multiple occasions. But it simply doesn't matter to the powers that be, powers that Bioware and EA listen to more than their fans.

On-topic, yes I would appreciate more adult scenes. However, I felt that the Tali and Garrus scenes were well done in that they can't actually have sex or, in Garrus' case, kiss properly so what's left is a mutual attraction to each other's personalities.

[Dark Glasses]

Sex Scenes are waste of time. Fade to black is good enough for me.

[T764]

Agree with Dark Glasses, the JE style kiss fade to black has been my favorite so far.

[Talogrungi]

Romance > Sex in video games tbh. If I want to see a naked blue chick, I can go watch porn and fiddle with the colour settings.

[Gentleman Moogle]

Talogrungi wrote...

Romance > Sex in video games tbh. If I want to see a naked blue chick, I can go watch porn and fiddle with the colour settings.

I lol'd

[mnomaha]

ScepticMatt wrote...

It definitely needs to be deeper, the quick-sex and dry-humping was awful  
Imo Me1 was quite nice.

Where's the damn like button?? Totally agree!

[Mister Mida]

No matter how ME3's romancing scenes turn out, LotSB made me confident in that they'll be better than ME2's.

[GuitarShredUK]

mnomaha wrote...

ScepticMatt wrote...

It definitely needs to be deeper, the quick-sex and dry-humping was awful  
Imo Me1 was quite nice.

Where's the damn like button?? Totally agree!

@ScepticMatt/mnomaha: +10, I jumped ship from Liara (whose sex scene was great in ME1, really passionate) to Miranda in ME2...which Liara probably quite rightly smashed me for during LoTSB but I digress...

Now, I agree completely with Sceptic with his point about the dry-humping, not only that but the location that Miranda picked...her justification being that the engine room will have less surveillance or whatever. This really didn't cut it for me, I found it so odd that the so-called "perfect" woman would enjoy an intimate session with the man that she saved on a greasy cold metal floor - king sized beds are too comfortable for her obviously. 

Talking about beds..I don't know whether anyone else has noticed this but each time you get to talk to her about various subjects and build the romance that she quite obviously leads Shepard to her bed in her room where you end up after each cutscene...but when you eventually get to the full on romance proper she chooses the engine room. 

EDIT: Hell, even drwells123's description of MenShep/Miranda's sex scene in his fanfic is better than the visual version you get in ME2 IMO: www.fanfiction.net/s/5750868/31/Fight_for_the_Lost

Put it this way, give me a sex scene with Miranda in ME3 akin to how well done Liara's was in ME1 and I'll be a happy man as will my Shep - those ill-informed scare-journos at Fox News can literally go and scare themselves to death if they don't like it (which they won't, guaranteed). 

Modifié par GuitarShredUK, 05 avril 2011 - 08:37 .

[DSGrant]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

You're entire post is essentially invalidated by the court case currently being reviewed by the US Supreme Court.

The non-gaming community sees the need to protect kids from mature content like *gasp* Halo, Call of Duty, and Mass Effect while ignoring the fact that a rating system exists at all.

M ratings are essentially meaningless to the average non-gamer. Never mind that a kid can steal both an M rated game and an R rated movie more easily than he/she could buy it.

Gamestop does not sell to kids. I've seen gamestop employees tell kids they can't get a game without a parent on multiple occasions. But it simply doesn't matter to the powers that be, powers that Bioware and EA listen to more than their fans.

Huh?

You can't argue that the points made in his post are invalidated by a court case that hasn't even been ruled on yet; the safe bet of that ruling by the way being that the rating system will remain intact and the sole responsibility of viewing mature rated content will rightfully remain with the consumer, not the game studios. It's insane to think that someone else should be responsible for what you choose to purchase for your kids. It would be a different argument if Bioware was putting mature content in "E" rated games, but they aren't. The rating on ME1 was completely appropriate for the content. As for kids who shoplift to get around the 18+ year-old sale requirement, again, you can't hold a game studio responsible for that kid obtaining the game illegally. And what about the parents in that situation? If they are so uninvolved in their child's life that they don't realize he's got a new "M" rated game that they didn't buy for him, that's no one's fault but their own. The "powers that be" as far as Bioware is concerned are the consumers purchasing their products - the fans - who in turn are making their games successful and profitable. And I guarantee you most of us are thinking, reasoning human beings that know the mature content of their games are appropriately rated and want it to stay that way.

[CannotCompute]

It should be intimate like the Ash, Kaidan & Liara SS in ME1.

The scenes could've lasted a bit longer, but I liked them a lot more than the ones in ME2.

Modifié par CannotCompute, 05 avril 2011 - 09:00 .

[Gentleman Moogle]

Okay, I was gonna stay far the hell away from this thread for the most part, but I figured, what the heck. I'll toss in my pair o' pennies.

I don't give a flying fig about sex in games. In fact, I'd prefer it if it wasn't there, because when it is there it feels like it's just there for a cheap thrill rather than for anything really important.

What I want in my RPGs is ROMANCE. Romance does not equal sex, despite what some developers might think. Romance can lead to sex, certainly, but it is so much more. Rather than getting to see Jack's Thunderjugs or Miranda's Mommy Zeppelins, I'd much rather have more meaningful dialog with them. Let me get to know them, get to care about them, want to spend time with them rather than just clicking through the menus in order to see two seconds of virtual norks.

Sure, I'm weird. But I want to care about my LI in the game. I want to laugh, smile, cry... I want to have emotion on the screen when I'm playing.

I want romance.

THAT makes for a far more enjoyable LI than a few seconds of dry-humping and some bad 80's porno music.

[DSGrant]

Nyoka wrote...

Dark Glasses wrote...

Sex Scenes are waste of time. Fade to black is good enough for me.

*Like*. Suggestiveness, subtlety, elipsis > hanging ding dongs.

You do realize that ME1 wasn't that explicit, nor is anyone asking for anything that explicit?

[Katamariguy]

As long as there's no dry-humping I'll be fine.

[ScepticMatt]

THAT makes for a far more enjoyable LI than a few seconds of dry-humping and some bad 80's porno music.

QFT
I hope Bioware does it better this time.

[android654]

I can't get why you guys rally behind ME1. It's extremely dated, even for 2007. The only advantage the sex scenes in ME1 has over 2 is that there is slight nudity.





When you put them side by side, the feel of the scene from ME1 feels more reserved than the ME2 scenes. The only real advantage they had was the mild nudity, if you could even call it that.

[soren7550]

Chewin3 wrote...

We should definitly have something like we had in ME1, but probably won't get (stupid Fox News)

Pretty much this. I really enjoyed how the romance grew throughout ME1 (the initial attraction in the beginning, the casual flirting and moving on up to the powerful conclusion), and part of what bugged me in ME2 was how the romance could only start to bud if you completed their loyalty mission (which could be rather late in the game).
So as a result, I grew to love Kaidan's character far more than I did everyone in ME2 because that growing romance and development/learing of his character was really there and presented quite well.

I can't wait to see how that all works out in ME3.

[enigmist]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Zelnik wrote...

... Do you see the rating on this game? Mature. That means mature content.

That means it was meant for 18+.

at the age of 18, someone can buy a mountain of porn (or get it for free online) for 50 bucks. This porn may (or may not) involve the following: Men, Women, Men/Women, She-Men, Transvestites, transsexuals, vegans, animals, tentacles, aliens, supreme court justices, and a green crayon.

There is NOTHING in Mass Effect that can top the stuff you can find with a few clicks and a little curiosity.

This is NOT Disney Effect... This game is about adults (at least in their mid-thirties for man-shep, probably late 20's, early 30's for femshep) who do adult things... this includes sex. If that happens to be with a turian renegade or the blue skinned 108 year old asari.... so be it.

If Faux News reports on it.... it will give the game a lovely publicity boost and more people will buy the game...

You're entire post is essentially invalidated by the court case currently being reviewed by the US Supreme Court.

The non-gaming community sees the need to protect kids from mature content like *gasp* Halo, Call of Duty, and Mass Effect while ignoring the fact that a rating system exists at all.

M ratings are essentially meaningless to the average non-gamer. Never mind that a kid can steal both an M rated game and an R rated movie more easily than he/she could buy it.

Gamestop does not sell to kids. I've seen gamestop employees tell kids they can't get a game without a parent on multiple occasions. But it simply doesn't matter to the powers that be, powers that Bioware and EA listen to more than their fans.

On-topic, yes I would appreciate more adult scenes. However, I felt that the Tali and Garrus scenes were well done in that they can't actually have sex or, in Garrus' case, kiss properly so what's left is a mutual attraction to each other's personalities.

mature means +17 if it is +18 it can't go on store shelves

[swenson]

...is the necro really necessary?

[Turian_punk_75]

I prefer just a simple snog, some whispers and then fade to black...

If there was a full blown sex scene (or several) in ME3, then the entire 'Mothers against their kids having any form of fun that I never had when I was a kid that includes video games but I was stupid enough to by a game with an M rating' brigade would have a field day.

I remember about 15 or so years ago, watching an episode of some US chat show where they brought this woman on who told of her 9 year old son who after watching 'Boyz in the Hood' became obsessed with owning a firearm and joining a gang... Okay question? What the hell was you thinking letting a 9 year old watch that kind of movie in the first place??

My mum and dad locked me and my brother in our bedroom back in 83 when they got hold of a dodgy copy of The Evil Dead.

Parents who buy their kids M rated games and think 'it's a video game, it can't hurt them' then realise there may be a bit of sex or bad language and then go to Fox news and suddenly become christians. And the mature gamers of the world have to suffer because of this.

Personally, as I said, fade to black does me, I'll be buying ME3 for the game, not for the game-on factor. But still, I can see why there isn't no full blown nudity in mainstream gaming yet