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[008Zulu]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

008Zulu wrote...

Shep was able to be affected (not controlled) because he/she has a multitude of cybernetic implants.

David was effectively a prisoner inside the Geth network.

Was that what happened?

I just thought David took control of all those holographic projectors they have everywhere in the ME universe, After all his point was to show shep what happened - Though the holographic images of David and his brother.

Your right, it was to show what happened. Showing what had happened to him was the only way he could ask for help. The distorted speech throughout the game, you can hear what he is saying, even asking for help. The trick is to listen for the phonemes rather than the actual words.

It makes it somewhat more disturbing however.

[Keltoris]

If only Kensen hadn't called Hackett for aid. She'd have happily watched the Reapers arrive from inside her cell.

That's the part of Arrival's plot that stumps me. If you want them to get here, why risk it by getting jailbroke. Yeah sure, you won't get to see it in person. But you're being a good faithful drone by not risking anything.

[Gentleman Moogle]

Keltoris wrote...

If only Kensen hadn't called Hackett for aid. She'd have happily watched the Reapers arrive from inside her cell.

That's the part of Arrival's plot that stumps me. If you want them to get here, why risk it by getting jailbroke. Yeah sure, you won't get to see it in person. But you're being a good faithful drone by not risking anything.

She didn't call for aid, did she? From what I remember, it was all Hackett's doing. 

Modifié par Gentleman Moogle, 07 avril 2011 - 05:30 .

[Keltoris]

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

She didn't call for aid, did she? From what I remember, it was all Hackett's doing. 

Derp. My bad. *orders more coffee and plays Arrival again*

Still, if I was a loyal servent of the Reapers, I'd have told him I may drop out of contact randomly for a month or so. Nothing to worry about, honest. 2 months and come look... *innocent whistling*

[Dean_the_Young]

Mr0TYuH wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Saren did not want Sovereign because it could control geth or because it could control AI (which was never stated to be its power). He wanted it because what he learned about it told him it was extremely advanced and powerful.

Mass Effect: Revelation, p. 322:

There was another problem to consider, as well.  The ship was just beyond the borders of the Perseus Veil, right on the edges of geth space.  Eventually he'd have to deal with them . . . though if everything went as planned, he might be able to use Sovereign to bend the geth to his purpose.

The fact that the artifact seemingly could influence AIs is the reason Edan recruited Dr. Qian.  It was the reason Dr. Qian was planning on interfacing his AI project with the relic.  Saren definitely learned this from Qian's files.  As the quote above shows, Sovereign's potential to affect AIs was one of the facets of his plans.

There are plenty of ways to affect AI other than Indoctrination: cyberwarfare, to start.

[Autoclave]

The question is, what is the point of having the reaper artifact on the same asteroid that was supposed to destroy the mass relay?

Ok they learned the reapers are coming and their ETA. Isn't it a coincidence that exactly the same rock the artifact was found on was going to crush into mass relay? They could learn about the reaper invasion, then focus on the project AWAY from this artifact.

[Ice Cold J]

Autoclave wrote...

The question is, what is the point of having the reaper artifact on the same asteroid that was supposed to destroy the mass relay?

Ok they learned the reapers are coming and their ETA. Isn't it a coincidence that exactly the same rock the artifact was found on was going to crush into mass relay? They could learn about the reaper invasion, then focus on the project AWAY from this artifact.

If you mean The Reapers, they obviously didn't plan it that way.

If you mean the project people, then I dunno. Maybe they realized the artifact was bad news, but then they became indoctrinated and they forgot about using the asteroid as a battering ram.

[Tleining]

@ Autoclave
read the Codex. They learned about the Invasion from the Artifact. The Artifact is somehow part of the asteroid. In case of an attack, it would activate a shield (sort of), protecting it. So instead of launching a normal asteroid into the Relay, they launched a special one. Maybe that also explains how they were able to destroy the relay. Reaper tech doesn't defend against other reaper tech.

[Mr0TYuH]

MrFob wrote...

Dr. Qian and Edan were interested in Sovereign because it WAS an AI (as far as they could determine). The reason Dr. Qian wanted to interface Sovereign into his project was because he was already under the influence of indoctrination. And Saren bent the geth to his will with Sovereign because the geth revered it as a god. I guess that's an influence too but it is not the same as the indoctrination process on organics.

I don't recall reading anything that led me to believe that Dr. Qian or Edan were aware that Sovereign was an AI.  Still, I guess I should reread the book; it's been a couple of years.