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Sorry, Bioware, But This Is Ridiculous


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I just fought some bandits (The Dog Lords) in Lowtown. I found out where their base was, cleared it out, yada yada. Then I go to the Docks. Here I meet the Undercut Thrifters, Again, surprise, surprise, after a few battles one of them drops the location of their base. When I get there I seem to remember, however, that this base, labelled 'Shady Alley', used to be  a warehouse back in Act 1. Didn't I fight an evil mage there or something? It still looks more like a warehouse entrance, though. I mean, it's a door. Alleys don't have doors. But sure enough, it's an alley. The warehouse has disappeared! But not only that. This alley is IDENTICAL to the one in Lowtown where the Dog Lords lived! It's uncanny!  And not an hour before, i'd been in a cave, or was it a base, I can't remember, but it looked exactly like a mine I was in yesterday! I mean, what are the odds?

And while i'm here ,WHY is Merril the only elf with a Welsh accent? Her mum appears to be Irish and some of the others are from the south of England by the sound of it, while another one (who warns me about Dalish bows trained on me) appears to be from Ulster. Don't tell me you colonials can't tell the difference! I can tell a New Yorker from a Texan or a Californian from a Canadian, so you should be able to tell the difference between broad Irish, Scottish, Welsh and English accents. It'd be less stupid if they all just had American accents...

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AngelicMachinery

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This thread is saying new things!

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Horus Blackheart

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AngelicMachinery remember the lead designer aparently things recycled things are ok as long as its 'artfuly done' :P

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Horus Blackheart wrote...

AngelicMachinery remember the lead designer aparently things recycled things are ok as long as its 'artfuly done' :P


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dj1917 wrote...
And while i'm here ,WHY is Merril the only elf with a Welsh accent? Her mum appears to be Irish and some of the others are from the south of England by the sound of it, while another one (who warns me about Dalish bows trained on me) appears to be from Ulster. Don't tell me you colonials can't tell the difference! I can tell a New Yorker from a Texan or a Californian from a Canadian, so you should be able to tell the difference between broad Irish, Scottish, Welsh and English accents. It'd be less stupid if they all just had American accents...


She's from a different clan of elves from far away so it would sort of be like she was from, oh I don't know, Wales and she moved to lives with people in say Portsmouth.

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Horus Blackheart

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well now AngelicMachinery if you want me to do that we may have to take it to pm :P. Other than that are you sure its not broken given the fact DA2 made you mash it so much?

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British accents are harder to identify because they aren't as well known as a new yorker or cali accent

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RIDICULOUS YOU SAY?!?!

THIS THREAD IS RIDICULOUS.

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Cobrawar wrote...

British accents are harder to identify because they aren't as well known as a new yorker or cali accent


Don't call Welsh accents British. The Welsh will eat you alive.

Merrill isn't the only elf with a Welsh accent. But, the answer is that Merrill's VO didn't voice all the elves. That would have been... wait for it... recycling!

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Horus Blackheart

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RIDICULOUS imposable, its artfully crafted from throwaway lines :P

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dj1917 wrote...

And while i'm here ,WHY is Merril the only elf with a Welsh accent? Her mum appears to be Irish and some of the others are from the south of England by the sound of it, while another one (who warns me about Dalish bows trained on me) appears to be from Ulster. Don't tell me you colonials can't tell the difference! I can tell a New Yorker from a Texan or a Californian from a Canadian, so you should be able to tell the difference between broad Irish, Scottish, Welsh and English accents. It'd be less stupid if they all just had American accents...


Reminds me of this quote...:lol:

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"Its not just what the characters say, but rather the tone of the whole
game that’s all over the place. Presumably it makes more sense to
American ears, but having each race talk in a regional British accent is
very distracting for us Brit’s. From Scottish to Welsh to Lancastrian,
there’s almost no region of the UK that doesn’t represent the speech
patterns of some obscure sect of Elves or Dwarfs and by the end of the
game I was expecting a scouse Troglodyte to tell me to “Calm down, calm
down”. That’s when they’re not mixing “Verily I smite thee” with “that
decree from the Viscount was bull****, dawg”."

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Otterwarden wrote...

dj1917 wrote...

And while i'm here ,WHY is Merril the only elf with a Welsh accent? Her mum appears to be Irish and some of the others are from the south of England by the sound of it, while another one (who warns me about Dalish bows trained on me) appears to be from Ulster. Don't tell me you colonials can't tell the difference! I can tell a New Yorker from a Texan or a Californian from a Canadian, so you should be able to tell the difference between broad Irish, Scottish, Welsh and English accents. It'd be less stupid if they all just had American accents...


Reminds me of this quote...:lol:

webcache.googleusercontent.com/search

"Its not just what the characters say, but rather the tone of the whole
game that’s all over the place. Presumably it makes more sense to
American ears, but having each race talk in a regional British accent is
very distracting for us Brit’s. From Scottish to Welsh to Lancastrian,
there’s almost no region of the UK that doesn’t represent the speech
patterns of some obscure sect of Elves or Dwarfs and by the end of the
game I was expecting a scouse Troglodyte to tell me to “Calm down, calm
down”. That’s when they’re not mixing “Verily I smite thee” with “that
decree from the Viscount was bull****, dawg”."


LOL agreed it was an assult on my senses and totaly disjointed.

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there is a slight difference, but its not very noticeable unless your paying attention (close attention).  this is in regards to your european accents.  so i can say with certainty i didnt realize i accent disparity.

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The dalish try to have at least two mages in every clan - Merrill's old clan had three so she was traded for patched leggings

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Serpieri Nei

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Welcome to Stream Age where Recycling has become an Art Form.

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Merrill is from another clan, she moved when her current clan for the magical training under the keeper.

But yes, recycling of zones and alleyways inside of buildings are annoying.

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konokonohamaru

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I thought it was artfully done.

In the modern art sort of way.

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Otterwarden

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well played...lol

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Killer3000ad

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I can't believe Bioware actually did that.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...


Don't call Welsh accents British. The Welsh will eat you alive.

Nonsense. The Welsh and their accents are just as British as anyone from England or Scotland. Britain is a REGION, not a political union. Any welsh person that gets annoyed at being called British is an idiot. In the same way, it would be pretty dumb for a Welsh chap to be annoyed when someone says he is from Europe. Now, if you were to say they were
from the United Kingdom (Which IS a political union), then yeah, they'll likely get annoyed at you :P As would the Scottish and Northern Irish (For that matter, quite a few English hate it too).

On the subject of Merrill specifically, I LOVE her accent :) Eve Myles is the only reason I kept watching Torchwood. She makes a great VO artist.
Some TV actors are fine at acting on screen, but when it comes to VO work they suck terribly (e.g. Yvonne Strahovski (sp?) who plays Sarah in Chuck just fine, but becomes horribly wooden and monotoned when voicing Miranda in ME2)

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Uhmmmmm, is there a difference between a Welsh accent and a "British" accent? They both sound similar to me, but then I'm from the US, oh, and I like Merrill's voice btw :)

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there is no such thing as a "British accent. just as theres no 'us' accent there are dififrences in tone word use and inflection.

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well I'm from California and I don't have an accent... <.<

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mav805 wrote...

well I'm from California and I don't have an accent... <.<


Everyone thinks that because thay are around the accent all the time its only when you go to a new area with a new domanate accent that you notice it.

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Merrill has a welsh accent because someone at Bioware made a good decision and employed Eve Myles to play a love interest.

The depressing thing is that I had about five minutes of "wtf?" before I realised that it was "Merrill has a Welsh accent!" rather than "wtf is with that weird mashup of Welsh and Irish they're all talking?"

Also, I find it amusing and somewhat irritating that Chrome demands 'Irish' be capitalised, but makes no such demands for 'Welsh'.