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[TheLostGenius]

I've played through it twice. Once on a save where I was half way through, and another where I had beaten the game. When you beat arrival before the suicide mission Harbinger appears to you as the Collector General. If you beat it after you win the suicide mission...then he appears as A REAPER. It was epic. 

[xzxzxz701]

Old news and not really an easter egg.

[expanding panic]

I didn't know that. I only played through once after the suicide mission. That is pretty sweet. Thanks

[StowyMcStowstow]

I only played it once, and that was after I had beaten the main game, so he was a Reaper for me. I don't have any saves that are prior-collector-base-death. The fact that you can play it before you complete the suicide mission is a terrible decision, because it makes the "bridge" almost completely pointless.

However, it is interesting. I suppose it's because harbinger wants you to think the Collectors are... working on their own?

[TheLostGenius]

StowyMcStowstow wrote...

I only played it once, and that was after I had beaten the main game, so he was a Reaper for me. I don't have any saves that are prior-collector-base-death. The fact that you can play it before you complete the suicide mission is a terrible decision, because it makes the "bridge" almost completely pointless.

However, it is interesting. I suppose it's because harbinger wants you to think the Collectors are... working on their own?

Not really. Considering that at the end of ME1 it was "The Reapers are coming!" So its just reiterating what was happening at the end of ME1 with a few flourishes thrown in for fun.

[Synobal]

I'm not sure you understand what an easter egg is.

[TheLostGenius]

Synobal wrote...

I'm not sure you understand what an easter egg is.

hardboiled eggs that are painted and hidden for small children to find?

[Made Nightwing]

In Crysis 2, there are some easter eggs sitting under a bush, in the middle of an alien apocalypse.

[sporeian]

TheLostGenius wrote...

Synobal wrote...

I'm not sure you understand what an easter egg is.

hardboiled eggs that are painted and hidden for small children to find?

Bingo

[kidbd15]

 I believe these might be "easter eggs", the ones mrsph was referring to:

Modifié par kidbd15, 05 avril 2011 - 04:27 .

[MarqueAZ]

Man I am so blind! Where was that?

[kidbd15]

MarqueAZ wrote...

Man I am so blind! Where was that?

Right before you rescue Dr. Kenson, there's a room to the right of the hall with this inside.

[TheLostGenius]

is it just me...or is ME3 going to be really really dark.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

TheLostGenius wrote...

is it just me...or is ME3 going to be really really dark.

Check out what happens if you let the timer run out... I'd say ME3's going to be dark... not that much darker than ME2, but dark for sure...

[kidbd15]

Yea... hopefully 'Dark Knight' dark, and not 'Spider-Man 3' dark

[MrFob]

Didn't Jesse Houston (or some other dev) say in a quite old interview the ME3 is going to be darker but funnier st the same time? If you ask me, that's a weird combination and IMO not really what should happen.

Anyway, on topic: I think the way they did it makes perfect sense. Before you discover whats going on, the reaper are still trying to hide behind the collectors somewhat. After the end, that doesn't make sense anymore anyway.

Modifié par MrFob, 05 avril 2011 - 05:30 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

MrFob wrote...

Didn't Jesse Houston (or some other dev) say in a quite old interview the ME3 is going to be darker but funnier st the same time? If you ask me, that's a weird combination and IMO not really what should happen.

Anyway, on topic: I think the way they did it makes perfect sense. Before you discover whats going on, the reaper are still trying to hide behind the collectors somewhat. After the end, that doesn't make sense anymore anyway.

Have you ever played Shadow Hearts? Hilarious fun during the opening forays of WWI, while the world is threatened by destruction from the Old Gods, who will corrupt your heart and kill your friends. The second game is less dark, but funnier... and I kinda missed the darkness.

My favorite comedies are all about murder, or human despair and misery, or the end of the world, on at least some level: Clue, Good Omens, the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Supernatural and Lost are two of my favorite TV shows, and they get pretty freaking dark while remaining funny. When you can jokingly lie about your dead mother while on a plane to an island that has consumed your life and sapped your volition... now that's comedy.

[TheLostGenius]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

TheLostGenius wrote...

is it just me...or is ME3 going to be really really dark.

Check out what happens if you let the timer run out... I'd say ME3's going to be dark... not that much darker than ME2, but dark for sure...

Wait what?!?

[MrFob]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

MrFob wrote...

Didn't Jesse Houston (or some other dev) say in a quite old interview the ME3 is going to be darker but funnier st the same time? If you ask me, that's a weird combination and IMO not really what should happen.

Anyway, on topic: I think the way they did it makes perfect sense. Before you discover whats going on, the reaper are still trying to hide behind the collectors somewhat. After the end, that doesn't make sense anymore anyway.

Have you ever played Shadow Hearts? Hilarious fun during the opening forays of WWI, while the world is threatened by destruction from the Old Gods, who will corrupt your heart and kill your friends. The second game is less dark, but funnier... and I kinda missed the darkness.

My favorite comedies are all about murder, or human despair and misery, or the end of the world, on at least some level: Clue, Good Omens, the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Supernatural and Lost are two of my favorite TV shows, and they get pretty freaking dark while remaining funny. When you can jokingly lie about your dead mother while on a plane to an island that has consumed your life and sapped your volition... now that's comedy.

No, haven't played the game. Don't get me wrong though, I am not saying that dark and funny can't work. I am not even saying that I can't imagine a funnier story in the ME universe. All I'm saying is that I don't see it making a great combination for ME3. I want ME3 to be epic rather than too funny and while obviously it has to create suspense before the great finale, I hope they don't make it "slap in your face" dark for the sake of darkness. I think they did that sometimes in ME2 and it was not the best idea (e.g. why doalmost  all your squadmates have to be sociopaths and killers?). Dark and griity is fine but in order to make it really stand out, they have to contrast it, just to remind you waht you are actually fighing for. I hope they do that in ME3.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

MrFob wrote...

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

MrFob wrote...

Didn't Jesse Houston (or some other dev) say in a quite old interview the ME3 is going to be darker but funnier st the same time? If you ask me, that's a weird combination and IMO not really what should happen.

Anyway, on topic: I think the way they did it makes perfect sense. Before you discover whats going on, the reaper are still trying to hide behind the collectors somewhat. After the end, that doesn't make sense anymore anyway.

Have you ever played Shadow Hearts? Hilarious fun during the opening forays of WWI, while the world is threatened by destruction from the Old Gods, who will corrupt your heart and kill your friends. The second game is less dark, but funnier... and I kinda missed the darkness.

My favorite comedies are all about murder, or human despair and misery, or the end of the world, on at least some level: Clue, Good Omens, the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Supernatural and Lost are two of my favorite TV shows, and they get pretty freaking dark while remaining funny. When you can jokingly lie about your dead mother while on a plane to an island that has consumed your life and sapped your volition... now that's comedy.

No, haven't played the game. Don't get me wrong though, I am not saying that dark and funny can't work. I am not even saying that I can't imagine a funnier story in the ME universe. All I'm saying is that I don't see it making a great combination for ME3. I want ME3 to be epic rather than too funny and while obviously it has to create suspense before the great finale, I hope they don't make it "slap in your face" dark for the sake of darkness. I think they did that sometimes in ME2 and it was not the best idea (e.g. why doalmost  all your squadmates have to be sociopaths and killers?). Dark and griity is fine but in order to make it really stand out, they have to contrast it, just to remind you waht you are actually fighing for. I hope they do that in ME3.

Now now, nobody in your squad is a sociopath... they can all experience emotions, and seem to occasionally sympathize with other humans. They're all psychopaths. Clear difference*.

At first I didn't like the team makeup either, but then I realized that the main qualification for joining was that you were disposable, and everything fell into place. I'd imagine that, when they say it'll be darker, they mean you'll see more bad stuff go down. Like the teaser trailer - that's more wholesale destruction of a city than we have ever seen in Mass Effect. Even with that 60 seconds, it's already darker. I'm ok with that. I'm thinking we will be hearing at and seeing the fallout from millions dead, on all planets, from all races. Yes, things will suck.

That said, I thought of a better example than Shadow Hearts: Fallout. In fallout you are living in the gorram post-apocalyptic wasteland all the kids are talking about these days. Yet, it's one of the funniest games out there, when it wants to be. That's the kind of humor and darkness we're talking about, I figure



*Note: they aren't psychopaths either, technically speaking. But I like the joke. And yes, many of them do have highly questionable moralities.

[MrFob]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...
Now now, nobody in your squad is a sociopath... they can all experience emotions, and seem to occasionally sympathize with other humans. They're all psychopaths. Clear difference*.

*Note: they aren't psychopaths either, technically speaking. But I like the joke. And yes, many of them do have highly questionable moralities.

What about Zhaeed? Ok, maybe you are right, psychopath, I can live with psychopaths.

At first I didn't like the team makeup either, but then I realized that the main qualification for joining was that you were disposable,
and everything fell into place.

Hm, that argument doesn't count IMO as TIM clearly thinks Shep is not disposable (after all, he brought you back from the dead because you are not). So it still comes through as BW saying; "Hey, we want to make a dark sequel so let's force the player to work with a bunch of bad guys." Anyway, I don't want to get too much into that argument, I just thought it wasn't done in a very clever or subtle way but I am happy for everyone who doesn't have a problem with it (it wasn't the end of the world after all).

I'd imagine that, when they say it'll
be darker, they mean you'll see more bad stuff go down. Like the teaser
trailer - that's more wholesale destruction of a city than we have ever
seen in Mass Effect. Even with that 60 seconds, it's already darker. I'm
ok with that. I'm thinking we will be hearing at and seeing the fallout
from millions dead, on all planets, from all races. Yes, things will
suck.

That's perfect. I am fine with that. I mean, of course, we need chaos and destruction when the reapers invade. Everything else would be disappointing.

That said, I thought of a better example than Shadow
Hearts: Fallout. In fallout you are living in the gorram
post-apocalyptic wasteland all the kids are talking about these days.
Yet, it's one of the funniest games out there, when it wants to be.
That's the kind of humor and darkness we're talking about, I figure

Yeah well, I am a bit on the edge with that. Fallout was great but ti was great for fallout. I think ME needs a bit of a different approach. Of course we'll have our funny moments (we de have Joker around so I don't see shortage of that). Sarcastic one liners etc. that's all good and I wouldn't want to miss it.
What I don't want to see in ME though (and you see it wuite a bit in the fallout series) is the very bizarre humor, that is often used in darker scenarios. I think for the epic and rather serious story of ME (and especially for its grand conclusion), they have to be very careful about how they place jokes etv.
All that said, I have great confidence that BW will pull it off just right ( at least the humor art). THey did so before and they know their stuff.


EDT: Oh, just noticed this is all going quite a bit off topic. Hope the OP doesn't mind.

Modifié par MrFob, 05 avril 2011 - 06:55 .

[CroGamer002]

kidbd15 wrote...

 I believe these might be "easter eggs", the ones mrsph was referring to:

HOW THE F*CK DID I MISSED THAT?!

[Leonia]

Yeah that bit is hard to see unless your brightness is way up. What does it mean! The only way I noticed it was because I saw the 3 and was like "ME3? What the heck is that graphic doing here." I hope it's not a premoniton that Shepard dies again.

[OraVelnoria87]

If you let the timer run out, the flashing scenes are creepy, but there is a cute scene with Shep standing with all her homies, including ashley. Visions of the future?