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How does DA2's music compare to DA:O's?


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StrawberryViking

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Can anyone give me a definitive list of the tracks that are recycled from origins? From just my casual playing I can only find the Ostagar theme, the dwarven commoner theme, and the lake calenhad theme.
(I think I heard 'Darkspawn in the Wilds' but maybe not...). Maybe I'm not very observant (likely), or this is a gross exageration. I just don't want to go out crying 'FALSE!!!!' until I know for sure.

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Origins is slightly better.

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StrawberryViking wrote...

Can anyone give me a definitive list of the tracks that are recycled from origins? From just my casual playing I can only find the Ostagar theme, the dwarven commoner theme, and the lake calenhad theme.
(I think I heard 'Darkspawn in the Wilds' but maybe not...). Maybe I'm not very observant (likely), or this is a gross exageration. I just don't want to go out crying 'FALSE!!!!' until I know for sure.


Hmm, where I am it's late and I hav to get up early. I will have to look. Like I said, I liked DA2's soundtrack. The reuse from DAO didn't bother me because I liked it too. I am musically inclined ( I took voice classes and sang in a woman's ensamble in college) so tones, sounds, and melodies I am good at.

Some may not be out right songs from DAO, for me personally, I may be hearing refrains, similar melodies, similar note patterns. I am not the person to cry cut and paste for that since it is the same artist for both soundtracks. Don't know if anyone else does that, but I hear similarities when oratory artists use similar things. I liken it to artist's brushtstrokes for the ear rather than the eye.

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DA2's soundtrack is utterly forgettable.

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marshalleck wrote...

DA2's soundtrack is utterly forgettable.


True, especially considering DA:O's soundtrack was excellent.

But considering even Inon Zur said he was being rushed... Not suprising.

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I haven't given the DA2 soundtrack a full listening-to yet. I've only played through the entire game once (waiting until the next patch) and I prefer to experience it first in-game. That said, however, I think some sections of it are very appropriate to the more personal scale of DA2. It's not as "big" sounding as much of the main cues in the DAO soundtrack. Still, I think it works, for the most part.

DAO paints a story on a much bigger canvas, and I think its score reflects this. I would call it "epic", where DA2 is more "intimate". DAO comes across as much more orchestral, where DA2, again in keeping with the plot, is much more ethnic.

As to the fact that some cues from DAO are re-used in DA2, that's no big deal. Take a close listen to the soundtrack for "The Phantom Menace" and then listen to how many cues are recycled in the subsequent two prequel movies.

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DA2 has some neat soundtrack but not very memorable in my opinion. Only song i remember is Hanged Man's theme.DA:O wins this for me.

They wasted a lot potential here too.
Varric and İsabella could have sang some dirty tavern songs when at the Hanged Man.
Merril could have sang a requiem-mourning after her quest at act 3
Or another mourning song after act 2&3 major fights for those dead .

Modifié par Cyberarmy, 17 mai 2011 - 12:17 .


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RaenImrahl wrote...

I haven't given the DA2 soundtrack a full listening-to yet. I've only played through the entire game once (waiting until the next patch) and I prefer to experience it first in-game. That said, however, I think some sections of it are very appropriate to the more personal scale of DA2. It's not as "big" sounding as much of the main cues in the DAO soundtrack. Still, I think it works, for the most part.

DAO paints a story on a much bigger canvas, and I think its score reflects this. I would call it "epic", where DA2 is more "intimate". DAO comes across as much more orchestral, where DA2, again in keeping with the plot, is much more ethnic.

As to the fact that some cues from DAO are re-used in DA2, that's no big deal. Take a close listen to the soundtrack for "The Phantom Menace" and then listen to how many cues are recycled in the subsequent two prequel movies.


 As you said Raen, DAO's was more for the larger scale, and DA2's was more intimate, as it should be.

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This pwns both:

*salutes Commander Shepard*

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I still think the DA franchise could use a different composer. Wasn't impressed with DAO, was hoping DA2 would surprise me, it didn't. Only a bit better overall, IMO. (and yes, I am aware of the ones that were re-used, I'm talking about the new tracks)

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KnossosTNC wrote...
...And if Mr. Wall is too busy with his Mass Effect commitments, then try Jeremy Soule (Example D, Example E, Example F).

...you open your mouth and mention Jeremy Soule, and don't mention Knights of the Old Republic?!!

HERETIC!!!

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All round it's more varied, abundant and pretty good but Dragon Age Origins had some of the most grabbing/interesting ones, I loved the song that plays when you fight the Archdemon ('challenge an archdemon' or something like that)

Also I love the Arishok theme, it just sounds epic and it sounded so good in the part it was in. Anyone agree?

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I think there are some moments of genius in the DA2 score (like the tavern music) but like the rest of the game its under developed...

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I've played through Origins 5 times (or was it 6, I don't remember). By the third time I couldn't stand the samey sounding tracks and ended up turning the music off completely.
Now I'm on my 4th playthrough of DA2 and I still really enjoy the music.

The music in Origins was a bit too classical with no edge whatsoever. the DA2 music on the other hand sounds fresh and unique.

Modifié par Dubya75, 18 mai 2011 - 01:36 .


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I think that DA:O's soundtrack is more consistent, but there are two or three songs on DA2's soundtrack that are better than anything on DA:O. That said, I don't really like either.

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Bleh, I had about half of my post written when I accidentally clicked on something I was not supposed to and lost it all. In short, what I wrote about was that Inon Zur can make amazing music but doens't get to use his full potential. Some of his best work doesn't get nearly enough screentime while a lot of combat music (particulary in DA2) tries to sound dark and ominous, but fails, and ends up sounding bland and uninspired. I'll just go on ahead and post examples battle music from all of DA games I think are the right way to go and the rest of you guys chime in.

Vigil's Keep Combat - It has a rather nice heroic feel to it. Despite the odds stacked against you, this one makes you feel that you must keep on pushing no matter what. It fit exceptionally well where it was used in the game unlike quite a bit of other music.

Tavern Brawl - Here's a criminally underused tune that I absolutely love. I think I heard it like 3 to 4 times across both Origins and Awakening and one of them was a little snippet in a cutscene. Not only is it great for tavern figts, but it could have also been used for smaller scale battles with bandits in towns/cities. Just miagine smashing scoundrel skulls to this tune in the alleys of Denerim.

The Cultists Attack - This is how you make an exciting dark and ominous track! It keeps you on your toes and just creates an unwelcome atmosphere with those breaths/growls/whatever. Perfect for facing creepy enemies such as the Haven cultists and the undead.

Battle the Blight - A perfect theme for high-intensity battles, such as when you feel you're running out of time. Maybe it's my memory, but I can't remember this one used much.

To Kill an Ogre - While overall it is meh, the part from about 1:30 - 2:25 is absolutely marvelous. It's a shame to see it be weighted down by the rest of the tune. I don't have words to describe it.

Market Place - Another wonderful piece perfect for small scale fights. The whole soundtrack of Leliana's Song DLC is a high point of DA music for me.

Street Fight - Another one from LS. It was also in DA2, though slightly different if I remember correctly.

Qunari on the Rise - Love how it starts out fairly slowly and then picks up near the end. Possibly the best DA2 combat theme.

As far as the atmospheric music and music specific to certain scenes, I think Inon Zur got that area covered.

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MishraArtificer wrote...

KnossosTNC wrote...
...And if Mr. Wall is too busy with his Mass Effect commitments, then try Jeremy Soule (Example D, Example E, Example F).

...you open your mouth and mention Jeremy Soule, and don't mention Knights of the Old Republic?!!

HERETIC!!!


I actually tried KOTOR first in writing that post, but I couldn't find that battle theme that I really liked, so I settled for Dawn of War's Force Commander theme.

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Neither Origins' nor DA2's soundtrack is particularly noteworthy...

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KnossosTNC wrote...

All in all, I would give the slight edge to DAO. That being said, while both efforts are solid, I think as long as Inon Zur is in charge the Dragon Age games will never be known for their music. If Bioware really wants to remedy that, then all I can say is Jack Wall eats Inon Zur alive (Example A, Example B, Example C). And if Mr. Wall is too busy with his Mass Effect commitments, then try Jeremy Soule (Example D, Example E, Example F).

Wall of Sound is no longer working on the Mass Effect fanchise.

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The DA2 soundtrack almost never took my attention away from the game, so I think that, overall, it's a GOOD thing. The scene of the Keeper in the Alienage was very well done.

I thought the DA:O soundtrack was very good, but at times over-bearing. But by the end of game, even on the first play-through, I was ready to throw my controller at the wall when the enemy would show up and the fight music would kick in. *shudder*

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The soundtrack of DA2 and DA is somehow not much notable. In comparison to ME series, they have a very long distance, since almost all of us has been impressed by the theme of almost all the soundtrack of ME. I expected that DA2's soundtrack is more epic that its predecessor, but I was wrong, so far the DA:O is a bit better. So Bioware, please provide us more epic soundtrack as you have done with ME series. We all agree that DA franchises are quite good but we expect better soundtrack.

Modifié par lionalio87, 18 mai 2011 - 09:33 .


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Fredvdp wrote...

Wall of Sound is no longer working on the Mass Effect fanchise.


Checked. Thanks for the heads u- OH MY FREAKING GOD CLINT MANSELL?!!

His works in Moon and The Fountain were amazing. All of a sudden Q1 2012 can't come soon enough.

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In the end, I think DA:O is better with Leliana's Song, the Ostagar theme, the ending credit song.

However, DA2 has several good ones especially Fenris' theme:

Come on... this is good stuff. ;)

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Corto81 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

DA2's soundtrack is utterly forgettable.


True, especially considering DA:O's soundtrack was excellent.

But considering even Inon Zur said he was being rushed... Not suprising.


yep, DAO's was well done, DA2 was well... rudimentary

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I thought it was good yet short and not much variation.