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[Kevil]

Ghost1041 wrote...

@Rifneno. Bringing up a point you made about a comment on being imprisoned for 2 thousand years. I think that the architect's red headed step brother was the prisoner you just mentioned. It could be possible he and the architect were magisters who tried to enter the golden city or at least some other ritual. It could explain why they are unique darkspawn. They know magic look more like twisted humans, not just your rank and file hurlock fresh out of the broodmother. Tha'ts all I got atm.

Oooooo!  I like that theory!

[Ghost1041]

Another thing that struck me is seeing the infamous "dragon/phoenix/bird like symbol everywhere and in the loading screens. I noticed a loading screen with a cave setting with the symbol. I believe that it looks like Flemmeth in her dragon form the two horns and her...hair style match.

[Leon481]

Kirkwall now seems like an interesting place to me. I need to replay this and pay more attention to the codexes.

I also think the chances of this being connected to the black city are high. Hybris metions the "kings of the black" or something along those lines. If this does refer to the black city, then it only deepens the mystery. The Black City having kings could possibly have something to do with the Tevinters incursion there.

Edit: The exact quote was "Fragments of every fool who held a throne, here or in the black." He says this when Hawke basically asks about the source of his power.

It's pretty obvious what he's referring to. It's a big clue to the mystery of the black city.

Modifié par Leon481, 08 juillet 2011 - 10:27 .

[Arokel]

I believe (along with others) that Kirkwall is the place where the Magisters tore through the Veil and entered the Golden City.
The little evidence we have seems to support it. We know the Veil is unusually thin in this city. It is even said that demons can contact non-mages in the lowest levels. The magisters were also purposefuly weakening the Veil further. Kirkwall was also the center of the imperial slave trade. As years passed tens of thousands of slaves disappeared. Underneath Kirkwall is a labyrinth of passages and chambers that were inhabited by mages studying an unknown subject. Finally the layout of the tevinter portions of city make up a series of glyphs.

All of it adds up. Tevinter reaserchers discovered a method of breaching the Golden City. The Veil was thinned to prepare for the attempt. The blood of tens of thousands of kidnapped slaves was used to test and finally power the ritual. The city's glyph like street pattern was used to increase or focus the power of the ritual.

Of course our theories are based on only a very tiny amount of information. Our ideas will most likely turn out to be either incomplete or totally false. Its still fun to brainstorm
on it though.

[Gillborn]

Leon481 wrote...

Edit: The exact quote was "Fragments of every fool who held a throne, here or in the black." He says this when Hawke basically asks about the source of his power.

It's pretty obvious what he's referring to. It's a big clue to the mystery of the black city.

Regarding that i remembered Flemeth,after the ritual in Soundermount,saying that she is but a fragment of the world.Could she one of them?If we can assume that there were kings in Black city.
And something more.Maybe i am wrong and correct me about that.Travelling along Kirkwall one of Hawke's companions says(i think Avelline)that the reason the city is like a maze was to prevent slaves from rioting.So i dont know about that glyph theory.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Gillborn wrote...

Leon481 wrote...

Edit: The exact quote was "Fragments of every fool who held a throne, here or in the black." He says this when Hawke basically asks about the source of his power.

It's pretty obvious what he's referring to. It's a big clue to the mystery of the black city.

Regarding that i remembered Flemeth,after the ritual in Soundermount,saying that she is but a fragment of the world.Could she one of them?If we can assume that there were kings in Black city.
And something more.Maybe i am wrong and correct me about that.Travelling along Kirkwall one of Hawke's companions says(i think Avelline)that the reason the city is like a maze was to prevent slaves from rioting.So i dont know about that glyph theory.

I can see the glyph theory.  Because if I'm a slave in the mines of Kirkwall and the Bone Pit and I've heard that I might be killed for my blood, then I'm sure going to use my pick axe to defend my life and maybe help other slaves escape with my death instead of being used as a substitute for lyrium.    I can see the slaves rebelling when word gets around on what is actually going on.  Glyphs help make magic more powerful in a certain  location or it repels the magic in the area it was warded on. 

[WhiteKnyght]

Sounds like Meredith's time would have been better spent repairing the veil than hating on the mages.

If mages go crazy from a thin veil, strengthening it is the obvious option.

Remove the magical glyphs. Maybe replace them with glyphs that negate magic instead? And have the mages try to use spells to exorcise any lingering spirits that leave the veil thin.

But nooo. Meredith's solution is to just kill them all and start over.

[HSHAW]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Sounds like Meredith's time would have been better spent repairing the veil than hating on the mages.

If mages go crazy from a thin veil, strengthening it is the obvious option.

Remove the magical glyphs. Maybe replace them with glyphs that negate magic instead? And have the mages try to use spells to exorcise any lingering spirits that leave the veil thin.

But nooo. Meredith's solution is to just kill them all and start over.

Repairing the veil is thought to be impossible.

[Macropodmum]

HSHAW wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Sounds like Meredith's time would have been better spent repairing the veil than hating on the mages.

If mages go crazy from a thin veil, strengthening it is the obvious option.

Remove the magical glyphs. Maybe replace them with glyphs that negate magic instead? And have the mages try to use spells to exorcise any lingering spirits that leave the veil thin.

But nooo. Meredith's solution is to just kill them all and start over.

Repairing the veil is thought to be impossible.

We were able to do so in the Blackmarsh though....

[HSHAW]

Fixing a tear in the veil is possible, strengthening the veil is not.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Sounds like Meredith's time would have been better spent repairing the veil than hating on the mages.

If mages go crazy from a thin veil, strengthening it is the obvious option.

Remove the magical glyphs. Maybe replace them with glyphs that negate magic instead? And have the mages try to use spells to exorcise any lingering spirits that leave the veil thin.

But nooo. Meredith's solution is to just kill them all and start over.

Considering the very streets of Kirkwall form the lines of one of the glyphs, you'd have to bulldoze the entire city (and the bits underground) to solve that particular problem.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

HSHAW wrote...

Fixing a tear in the veil is possible, strengthening the veil is not.

Isn't fixing and strengthening the veil the same thing?  Wouldn't you need to strengthen it before you can fix it?  Or kill the demon guarding the veil portal?   Point in case the Arcane Horror in the elven/trevinter ruins in the Breciallian Forest.

Sophia Dryden and Averness did it in the dlc Warden's Keep.   Finn also plays with veil portals in WH to do the scrying.  The warden and his party also close veil portals in WH and the Black Marsh in Awakenings.  So they can be closed, fixed, or repaired.

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 10 juillet 2011 - 04:19 .