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[Potato Cat]

Ages ago, I distinctly remember reading that not all romance options were party members. And in my first playthrough, I was too preoccupied romancing Merrill to look for these, but with my FemHawke, I remember Leandra saying Seneschal Bran had a son my age as if to say, MARRY THIS HUMAN!!! So I looked all over for him and never found him. So was this whole non-companion romance thing cut from the final game or were they referring to the mini sexual encounters like Zevran or the Blooming Rose prostitutes.

[Dr. Nexas]

He was never supposed to be found. Its no different than Arl Howe saying you should marry one of his kids.

[DrSpoonbender]

Here is a link to one of the original discussions on that very issue where the possibility of non-companion romances was discussed.

http://social.biowar...index/4485887/1

I was rather hoping to see this feature in Dragon Age 2. I must admit that I still enjoyed the game immensely. Still I think the possibility of including a romance outside of the hero’s established party would be an entertaining detail to include in a future iteration of the game.

Modifié par DrSpoonbender, 05 avril 2011 - 07:30 .

[mesmerizedish]

Elfman wrote...

I remember Leandra saying Seneschal Bran had a son my age as if to say, MARRY THIS HUMAN!!!

I would have rather married Seneschal Bran

Modifié par ishmaeltheforsaken, 05 avril 2011 - 07:30 .

[Mr.House]

But my Hawke loves her pantless pirate too much.

[sphinxess]

I would marry a man that could double my gold every year

[Trophonius]

I was wondering about non-companion romances too. The way they talked about romances sounded like there were more options beyond your companions. I guess 'expanded' was only referring to the number of companions you can romance as either gender.

[Asdara]

Honestly, I don't think non-companion romances make a lot of sense, even if we are stationary in the same place long enough. Here's why:

Hawke is out killing his or her way through some abominations in an effort to help a friend stay out of slavery and is gone for X days. On the way back we had to detour to fight a demon trapped in a statue and unfortunately slaughter an entire clan of Dalish elves.

Hawke comes back home and his or her non-companion LI walks up with a glass of wine. "So, where have you been and what have you been up to?"

There's no answer to that question. Someone who is the type of person a PC in an RPG always ends up being is not the type of person who could carry on a relationship with someone who wasn't like them - questing, fighting, adventuring. How do you relate to a non-party LI? How do you involve them in what is the insanity of your life?

It's not the same as Donnic and Aveline either - they're both guards, they both know their duties, they both deal with a lot of the same things. That's what makes them compatible. Do you see Aveline settling down with a cobbler? I really think not.

[namedforthemoon]

I never got a conversation about Seneschal Bran or his son with mama Hawke. How do you get it?

[Anarya]

namedforthemoon wrote...

I never got a conversation about Seneschal Bran or his son with mama Hawke. How do you get it?

Click on her when you're at home, she sometimes has things to say to you. I think it's early in Act 2 maybe? It's not about Bran's son, it's the final line in the conversation about her potential suitor I believe.

[Twofold Black]

Asdara wrote...

Hawke comes back home and his or her non-companion LI walks up with a glass of wine. "So, where have you been and what have you been up to?"

There's no answer to that question. Someone who is the type of person a PC in an RPG always ends up being is not the type of person who could carry on a relationship with someone who wasn't like them - questing, fighting, adventuring. How do you relate to a non-party LI? How do you involve them in what is the insanity of your life?

By this reasoning, no one in, say, law enforcement should be able to sustain a relationship with a civilian. As a matter of personal preference I would always go for a companion romance over a non-companion one myself, but your argument just isn't born out by the way actual relationships between people work. Hawke (or some other PC) might very well like coming home after a week-long campaign of murder and property destruction and being able to chill out with someone who doesn't have giant spider guts under their fingernails.

[Asdara]

Twofold Black wrote...

Asdara wrote...

Hawke comes back home and his or her non-companion LI walks up with a glass of wine. "So, where have you been and what have you been up to?"

There's no answer to that question. Someone who is the type of person a PC in an RPG always ends up being is not the type of person who could carry on a relationship with someone who wasn't like them - questing, fighting, adventuring. How do you relate to a non-party LI? How do you involve them in what is the insanity of your life?

By this reasoning, no one in, say, law enforcement should be able to sustain a relationship with a civilian. As a matter of personal preference I would always go for a companion romance over a non-companion one myself, but your argument just isn't born out by the way actual relationships between people work. Hawke (or some other PC) might very well like coming home after a week-long campaign of murder and property destruction and being able to chill out with someone who doesn't have giant spider guts under their fingernails.

Ok, honestly?  There is a vast difference between dealing with human vs. human crime - as horrific as that can be - and abominations, blood mages, DRAGONS for pity's sake, and unholy relic magic crap.  At what point would the life of someone like Hawke overlap with the life of say, his or her neighboring noble family?  What could they possibly have in common that would make that relationship emotionally, psychologically, and physically fulfilling?  Granted, I posed it in a somewhat exaggerated way before, but I really cannot see someone like Hawke or the Warden for that matter having a meaningful relationship with anyone who runs a shop or sits at council meetings all day.  Also, constantly splattered with blood.  Constantly.  I imagine it would become a problem for someone more mundane eventually even if the PC could survive the boredom.

[fluorine7]

I think Bioware tried non-companion romance with Neverwinter nights 1, in which female character can romance the spy master (Can't remember the name). That doesn't work all that well, at least not for me. It feels kind of disconnected. And Fable, you can romance/marry random people in town, totally just doesn't do anything to me. I don't want to romance some random people who I don't care about, who doesn't share my adventure, it's more of a burden than anything. (I never romance or marry anyone in Fable games.... just don't have the motivation).

BUT!

That being said, I actually want to romance Arishok. In DA:O I want to romance Sten, didn't happen either... I guess I have a thing for Qunaries. I hope Bioware give me a romancable Qunari character in DA3.

[CyberSnakeME2]

Heh, you want the best example? Look at the Fable series, while its very cool to have a family to go back to, face it, your a hero so naturally your going around the world kicking bad guys around and be away for who-knows-when long, so yeah it works but it doesnt work at certain angles, good idea none the less.

Modifié par CyberSnakeME2, 06 avril 2011 - 02:53 .

[legbamel]

But what about related NPCs like Cullen or Keran? Surely that could work sort of like Donnic: once you've lured them into...err, seduced them all you'd get would be a few little lines in the normal interaction that make you go, "Awwwwww," but that's about all you get from your LI. Either of those could still have a stirring interaction at the final battle prep scene.

[Saberchic]

legbamel wrote...

But what about related NPCs like Cullen or Keran? Surely that could work sort of like Donnic: once you've lured them into...err, seduced them all you'd get would be a few little lines in the normal interaction that make you go, "Awwwwww," but that's about all you get from your LI. Either of those could still have a stirring interaction at the final battle prep scene.

Yeah, this could still work (or rather I'd like it too). They aren't nameless people and are still tied into the story. I think if you romanced Cullen, Keran, or Bran it could put an interesting spin on the story.

[Apathy1989]

Came to this thread expecting to read about random shags like in origins. Left disappointed.

Seriously in Origins you are some sex god it seems. Get some random dalish elf to sleep with you easily, go off and have foursome with isabela, demand sex from a daemon and alot of other random people.

DA2 seems to have none. (edit: ok realised jethran, but prostitutes don't really count.)

Modifié par Apathy1989, 06 avril 2011 - 03:14 .

[Hellosanta]

8D hahaha non-companion romances I really want it
something related to ?

[Twofold Black]

Asdara wrote...

Ok, honestly?  There is a vast difference between dealing with human vs. human crime - as horrific as that can be - and abominations, blood mages, DRAGONS for pity's sake, and unholy relic magic crap.  At what point would the life of someone like Hawke overlap with the life of say, his or her neighboring noble family?  What could they possibly have in common that would make that relationship emotionally, psychologically, and physically fulfilling?

The same taste in books? Refugee background? Bizarre sexual kinks? They could have any number of things in common. This line of reasoning of yours only makes sense if you assume both Hawke and the hypothetical civilian love interest are cardboard characters with no interest in anything outside their respective spheres, and any relationship like that is going to fail or constitute bad writing or both.

[Bekkael]

fluorine7 wrote...

That being said, I actually want to romance Arishok. In DA:O I want to romance Sten, didn't happen either... I guess I have a thing for Qunaries. I hope Bioware give me a romancable Qunari character in DA3.

^^This. I totally wanted to jump the Arishok's...horns.

I also liked Sten. There is just something so hot about: "No."

I always gain the Arishok's respect, and killing him actually makes my gut twist and my heart beat faster. For me, it's a far more emotional experience than the endgame, because I am invested in his character. I don't really know Orsino or Meredith, so I don't give a crap when they die. If not for Anders and how involved I was in his character, the entire 3rd act would have been a letdown. Thank goodness for psycho mages.

[Sabariel]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Elfman wrote...

I remember Leandra saying Seneschal Bran had a son my age as if to say, MARRY THIS HUMAN!!!

I would have rather married Seneschal Bran

Dude ages well obviously. I thought he was only 6/7 years older than Hawke >_>;;;;

[mellifera]

Apathy1989 wrote...

Came to this thread expecting to read about random shags like in origins. Left disappointed.

Seriously in Origins you are some sex god it seems. Get some random dalish elf to sleep with you easily, go off and have foursome with isabela, demand sex from a daemon and alot of other random people.

DA2 seems to have none. (edit: ok realised jethran, but prostitutes don't really count.)

Then again, the Warden wasn't hot enough to bag all the love interests regardless of their sex.

Modifié par yukidama, 06 avril 2011 - 04:32 .

[dreadpiratesnugglecakes]

fluorine7 wrote...

I think Bioware tried non-companion romance with Neverwinter nights 1, in which female character can romance the spy master (Can't remember the name). That doesn't work all that well, at least not for me. It feels kind of disconnected. And Fable, you can romance/marry random people in town, totally just doesn't do anything to me. I don't want to romance some random people who I don't care about, who doesn't share my adventure, it's more of a burden than anything. (I never romance or marry anyone in Fable games.... just don't have the motivation).

BUT!

That being said, I actually want to romance Arishok. In DA:O I want to romance Sten, didn't happen either... I guess I have a thing for Qunaries. I hope Bioware give me a romancable Qunari character in DA3.

You realize that the Arishok thinks of you as sub human garbage right?  He had some regard for Hawke later but he despises the people of Kirkwall in general.  Nothing like a little bigotry to get the heart beating faster, eh?

[Neesa]

Twofold Black wrote...

Asdara wrote...

Ok, honestly?  There is a vast difference between dealing with human vs. human crime - as horrific as that can be - and abominations, blood mages, DRAGONS for pity's sake, and unholy relic magic crap.  At what point would the life of someone like Hawke overlap with the life of say, his or her neighboring noble family?  What could they possibly have in common that would make that relationship emotionally, psychologically, and physically fulfilling?

The same taste in books? Refugee background? Bizarre sexual kinks? They could have any number of things in common. This line of reasoning of yours only makes sense if you assume both Hawke and the hypothetical civilian love interest are cardboard characters with no interest in anything outside their respective spheres, and any relationship like that is going to fail or constitute bad writing or both.

This is my line of thinking as well. Even companion romances would stagnate if all they ever talked about were the trials they went through. And I'm pretty sure I've seen people criticize them for that as well.

A non-party LI could've been nuanced without all the drama but living in Kirkwall kind of guarantees that anyway.

[fluorine7]

Bekkael wrote...

fluorine7 wrote...

That being said, I actually want to romance Arishok. In DA:O I want to romance Sten, didn't happen either... I guess I have a thing for Qunaries. I hope Bioware give me a romancable Qunari character in DA3.

^^This. I totally wanted to jump the Arishok's...horns.

I also liked Sten. There is just something so hot about: "No."

I always gain the Arishok's respect, and killing him actually makes my gut twist and my heart beat faster. For me, it's a far more emotional experience than the endgame, because I am invested in his character. I don't really know Orsino or Meredith, so I don't give a crap when they die. If not for Anders and how involved I was in his character, the entire 3rd act would have been a letdown. Thank goodness for psycho mages.

If you won Arishok's respect, during the final mission of Act 2, when you first enter High Town, you'll see two Qunari dragging a girl. And then one of them see you, and said: so Arishok has failed to take you captive. Logical explanation would be Arishok takes Hawke like he ttakes other nobels in the city. But I couldn't help but think Arishok might have something special in mind for Hawke, other qunaris also mentioned if Hawke converted to the Qun, he'd be some high ranking officer or religious police officer...LOL. I thought it'd make a good adventure to have Hawke actually be captured by Arishok, taken to Pal Vellon, either convert to the Qun, or trying to escape. 

Then again, the scene when Aveline and Hawke trying to escape the Qunari compound, with all those people throwing javelines at you.... doesn't seem like they actually "try" to take Hawke alive.