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dreadpiratesnugglecakes wrote...

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I think Bioware tried non-companion romance with Neverwinter nights 1, in which female character can romance the spy master (Can't remember the name). That doesn't work all that well, at least not for me. It feels kind of disconnected. And Fable, you can romance/marry random people in town, totally just doesn't do anything to me. I don't want to romance some random people who I don't care about, who doesn't share my adventure, it's more of a burden than anything. (I never romance or marry anyone in Fable games.... just don't have the motivation).

BUT!

That being said, I actually want to romance Arishok. In DA:O I want to romance Sten, didn't happen either... I guess I have a thing for Qunaries. I hope Bioware give me a romancable Qunari character in DA3.


You realize that the Arishok thinks of you as sub human garbage right?  He had some regard for Hawke later but he despises the people of Kirkwall in general.  Nothing like a little bigotry to get the heart beating faster, eh?


And I thought of him as religious fanatic weirdos who can't sleep laying flat. Doesn't mean I can't find his attitude and determination attractive. 

Don't be a troll. 

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fluorine7 wrote...

I think Bioware tried non-companion romance with Neverwinter nights 1, in which female character can romance the spy master (Can't remember the name). That doesn't work all that well, at least not for me. It feels kind of disconnected. And Fable, you can romance/marry random people in town, totally just doesn't do anything to me. I don't want to romance some random people who I don't care about, who doesn't share my adventure, it's more of a burden than anything. (I never romance or marry anyone in Fable games.... just don't have the motivation).

BUT!

That being said, I actually want to romance Arishok. In DA:O I want to romance Sten, didn't happen either... I guess I have a thing for Qunaries. I hope Bioware give me a romancable Qunari character in DA3.


Oh you did it. Now I will spend rest of the day, trying to remember that guy's name. I think his last name was Gentz. Anyway in NWN there ain't really romance options. Sharwyn and Linu can flirt a bit with Hero of Neverwinter but I don't think it is better than spy master romance for females. I am not sure how it done as I can't play female characters (have one in each game, like the one on my avatar atm). I suppose it was close to Aribeth romance (which some people claimed it was a romance, I didn't think so).

On other games it is hard to do but in a game spans 10 years in same city that was a possibility. It would give player to do in later acts which are pretty short.  As DA 2 uses same maps over and over only need would be some conversations, couple of quests and maybe few letters. Altho' people would complain about that too.

Anyway I think it is too late to talk about it now. Game published and don't think Bioware won't make another story takes place in same city/covering several years for some time.

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Asperius wrote...

Oh you did it. Now I will spend rest of the day, trying to remember that guy's name. I think his last name was Gentz.


Aarin Gend. The NWN official campaign didn't really stick with me, but I remember him having an amazing voice actor.

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Twofold Black wrote...

Asperius wrote...

Oh you did it. Now I will spend rest of the day, trying to remember that guy's name. I think his last name was Gentz.


Aarin Gend. The NWN official campaign didn't really stick with me, but I remember him having an amazing voice actor.


Hah! Thanks for timely rescue. Image IPB

NWN was my first RPG/Bioware game which I played for years. Big thanks goes to great community members and their awesome mods. Other than StoU, I still love others.

I still install and play NWN (heh it seems pretty stale after years tho') just to hear Aribeth, Sharwyn and Tomi. I love their voice acting.

One a side note: There is a Neverwinter MMO (actually still aint sure it will be a MMO or cross-genre game) game under development. It is my most want to play MMO right after SW:TOR.Image IPB

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

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I remember Leandra saying Seneschal Bran had a son my age as if to say, MARRY THIS HUMAN!!!


I would have rather married Seneschal Bran :whistle:


Yes please.

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fluorine7 wrote...

That being said, I actually want to romance Arishok. 


You're not the only one. Arishok would be my first choice for DA2. I think it's because you have so many high-tension conversations with him that it begins to feel like a commitment. I rambled about him so much already, better not start all over again.

My second choice would be Flemeth. Forget those mortals, why not fall for the being of high power, for once? Aim for the stars! My Hawke still has dreams of the dragon swooping down to strike down his enemies. Their mutual life-saving is very romantic. I can imagine Flemeth's bafflement if he showed any interest, though. She clearly views all mortals like children. Besides, it would be a very sad and short crush since she never comes back.

But think about it, she can literally make him fall for her, muahaha.

Third choice - Orsino. I don't like humans very much. ;) You can date humans in life, why waste time doing it in fantasy. I like his art, voice, and dialogue, but most of all, I love how evil he is and how well he hides it. His position demands it, of course. I always loved blood mages who hide their practices well. (And who don't attack you on sight once you learn their specialization, something Orsino failed to do, just like all the others.)

That's why I was disappointed when Merrill's preference was uncovered so quickly. I like dark, dangerous, and devious, and all that innocence bordering on stupidity makes me think, aww, such a little kid - far from romantic. Like Anders said, "No wonder demons found you such easy prey."

Fourth best - Seneschal Bran. I spend so much time in the Viscount's Keep, I can't see why it wouldn't work. He holds so much disgust for me...I see it as a challenge. I could even overlook him being a human, since he is somewhat crucial to the plot.

I actually even like Viscount Dumar. He is a respectable man, although too weak for his position in the time of crisis. Point is, his voice, art, and manner are all pleasant, and I wouldn't mind at all more of his company. Gives him a perfectly valid reason to pile all his problems on me, actually. I felt cheated that I didn't get to see how his and Hawke's relationship even built. And how he asked for Hawke's help for the first time. I don't think that "rescue" counts.

I see non-companions as more desirable because they're more out of your reach than companions. Their commitment to the plot rather than to you makes them more of a challenge.

Almost forgot!  A demon! I want to date a pride demon. Meet him in the Fade, get him a body as a gift, something to that effect. Why wouldn't a pride demon keep a low profile in the mortal world, since their only purpose is to enjoy the experience of living here. I imagine him contacting Hawke for help with things like:

Demon: This body is so fragile, it feels tired and weak all the time. I can't ask anyone about it, and don't want to risk a healer uncover me. What should I do?
Hawke: Do you remember to eat and sleep regularly?
Demon: Every day, like a clock, should be enough, shouldn't it?
Hawke: Let me see your house, then...Maker's breath, why is it such a freezing cold here? Do you ever build up the fire?
Demon: The fire? What for? I've been to people's houses all the summer, and never saw a fire there.
Hawke: That was months ago, it's winter now. No wonder. You're freezing yourself to death! This isn't Fade. Get the fire started!

I imagine that most demons never last long in the mortal world without assistance. They might take information from the host, but it doesn't seem to work very well, seeing how quickly they're uncovered and confronted. World domination is well and good, but why can't they be more subtle about it?

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I wanted to romance Stroud's awesome'stache. 

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fluorine7 wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

fluorine7 wrote...

That being said, I actually want to romance Arishok. In DA:O I want to romance Sten, didn't happen either... I guess I have a thing for Qunaries. I hope Bioware give me a romancable Qunari character in DA3.


^^This. I totally wanted to jump the Arishok's...horns. :o

I also liked Sten. There is just something so hot about: "No."

I always gain the Arishok's respect, and killing him actually makes my gut twist and my heart beat faster. For me, it's a far more emotional experience than the endgame, because I am invested in his character. I don't really know Orsino or Meredith, so I don't give a crap when they die. If not for Anders and how involved I was in his character, the entire 3rd act would have been a letdown. Thank goodness for psycho mages. :devil:


If you won Arishok's respect, during the final mission of Act 2, when you first enter High Town, you'll see two Qunari dragging a girl. And then one of them see you, and said: so Arishok has failed to take you captive. Logical explanation would be Arishok takes Hawke like he ttakes other nobels in the city. But I couldn't help but think Arishok might have something special in mind for Hawke, other qunaris also mentioned if Hawke converted to the Qun, he'd be some high ranking officer or religious police officer...LOL. I thought it'd make a good adventure to have Hawke actually be captured by Arishok, taken to Pal Vellon, either convert to the Qun, or trying to escape. 

Then again, the scene when Aveline and Hawke trying to escape the Qunari compound, with all those people throwing javelines at you.... doesn't seem like they actually "try" to take Hawke alive. 


That is a fanfic begging to be written. Will you heed the call? :o

I always got that scene with them dragging the woman too. I admit, my mind went dirty places when they mention the Arishok meant to take Hawke captive. Qunari kink, anyone?  :whistle:

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I think it would be nice, and add a special perspective to the game. It ties you to someplace solid, instead of just moving from place to place. Relationships are different when they aren't with you all the time. You'd have a home to go to, in a sense.

And variety can't hurt.

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Harvest Moon + Dragon Age ^^

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Knight of Dane wrote...

Harvest Moon + Dragon Age ^^



If that also lead to the companions you don't hook up with finding romance elsewhere, I'd be fine with that.

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Eveangaline wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Harvest Moon + Dragon Age ^^



If that also lead to the companions you don't hook up with finding romance elsewhere, I'd be fine with that.

Bethany/Feynriel

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Bekkael wrote...

That is a fanfic begging to be written. Will you heed the call? :o

I always got that scene with them dragging the woman too. I admit, my mind went dirty places when they mention the Arishok meant to take Hawke captive. Qunari kink, anyone?  :whistle:


I can't write all that well... My novel reads like analysis report, dry and boring. But I can try paint something...LOL. 

As for Qunari Kink...yeah....yeah.....trust me...I've thought about it. But I doubt Qunari will use Hawke for anything other than Saarebas (for Mage Hawke) or some kind of warrior (for warrior/rogue Hawke). It would be a waste to make Hawke into mindless laborer, and we all know, Qunari don't waste anything. 

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laecraft wrote...
Fourth best - Seneschal Bran. I spend so much time in the Viscount's Keep, I can't see why it wouldn't work. He holds so much disgust for me...I see it as a challenge. I could even overlook him being a human, since he is somewhat crucial to the plot.


Glad to see I'm not the only one who actually want to romance Seneschal... I don't even know why I find him attractive. I mean, he's such a political weasel, he complains a lot, and he visit port and get rashes.... uh...... He gave me the impression of someone who has been in the politic business for years, who knows everything, who has the bigger picture but just don't care about it anymore. But somehow I actually enjoy talking to him, even every conversation end up with him totally disgust of me. 

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It was definitely disappointing that there was no Kelly-like romance. That was so awesome, somebody you go to between missions and she often has something new and unique and cool to say. Of course Isabella and Merrill are awesome LIs, but there was definitely room for a non-teammate LI also. Especially since we have our own house, it seems like it would be even more appropriate to find our LI at our place if the LI wasnt an actual teammate. Oh well, hopefully next time :) .

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Twofold Black wrote...

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Ok, honestly?  There is a vast difference between dealing with human vs. human crime - as horrific as that can be - and abominations, blood mages, DRAGONS for pity's sake, and unholy relic magic crap.  At what point would the life of someone like Hawke overlap with the life of say, his or her neighboring noble family?  What could they possibly have in common that would make that relationship emotionally, psychologically, and physically fulfilling?


The same taste in books? Refugee background? Bizarre sexual kinks? They could have any number of things in common. This line of reasoning of yours only makes sense if you assume both Hawke and the hypothetical civilian love interest are cardboard characters with no interest in anything outside their respective spheres, and any relationship like that is going to fail or constitute bad writing or both.

This many times over.  It's getting to be kind of a cliche that party members always fall in love with one another... haven't these heroes ever heard of not mixing business with pleasure?  There's the possibility of your significant other being killed or captured on a mission, as well as the fact that fraternization can compromise a soldier's focus depending on the task.  After all, you'd think twice about sacrificing your LI to save the world, or at least, some people would...   and if all you know how to talk about is work... well, you probably won't be married long anyway.

So yeah... next time, how about some outside LI's?  And while we're on the topic... women please?  I'm sure I'm not the only guy who gets a little annoyed that pretty much every NPC you can flirt with successfully is a man.  I found one female that I could flirt with in this game and it was a Dalish who happily said she had no interest in humans.  Wonderful.<_<

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If you won Arishok's respect, during the final mission of Act 2, when you first enter High Town, you'll see two Qunari dragging a girl. And then one of them see you, and said: so Arishok has failed to take you captive. Logical explanation would be Arishok takes Hawke like he ttakes other nobels in the city. But I couldn't help but think Arishok might have something special in mind for Hawke, other qunaris also mentioned if Hawke converted to the Qun, he'd be some high ranking officer or religious police officer...LOL. I thought it'd make a good adventure to have Hawke actually be captured by Arishok, taken to Pal Vellon, either convert to the Qun, or trying to escape. 

Then again, the scene when Aveline and Hawke trying to escape the Qunari compound, with all those people throwing javelines at you.... doesn't seem like they actually "try" to take Hawke alive. 


Brilliant. I haven't thought about it. Just mentioning taking Hawke captive in the context of them taking that woman captive, it's hilarious. And I wonder why the Qunari know of Arishok's intention - he must have talked about Hawke constantly. And yes, that scene doesn't look like they're not trying to kill him. Another test, perhaps? If he's capable enough, he can dodge one half-heartedly thrown javelin.

I admit it didn't occur to me that the Arishok had anything else in mind but the confrontation to Hawke. Still it makes perfect sense. We know that Qunari value ability. Such a waste, the way it ended.