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[Costin_Razvan]

Varys: I've always hated the bells. They ring for horror: A dead king, a city under siege....
Tyrion: A wedding.
Varys: Exactly.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 28 mai 2012 - 05:21 .

[Seagloom]

Modifié par Seagloom, 28 mai 2012 - 09:27 .

[chunkyman]

I'm wondering how exactly they will wrap up this season in the next episode. I hope they don't make me wait a year to see Theon and Putin's son battle at Winterfell.

[LPPrince]

I'm hoping I'm not disappointed that the next episode(last of Season 2) is going back to the regular format.

[Costin_Razvan]

chunkyman wrote...

I'm wondering how exactly they will wrap up this season in the next episode. I hope they don't make me wait a year to see Theon and Putin's son battle at Winterfell.

Judging by the preview it's going to happen in the next episode.

[Augustei]

The soundtracks used at points in blackwater didn't make much sense to me, it seemed to convey that the Lannister's were the good guys and I should be going for them

Episode was awesome I thought though if i were directing instead of Tywin entering at the end it would be Stannis with the exact same lines followed by "Time to die b***h" to Cersei.. I know it wouldn't line up with the books but still =P

Big fan of the Lannisters, they cool and all but I just find Stannis to be superior in level of awesomeness.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I liked the episode, all things considered.

Still, I read in the wikia that Baelish came up with the idea of dressing someone in Renly's armor, which caused fear in enemy ranks and even made some switch sides. Up until now, Baelish's been pretty lackluster this season. He did mastermind the alliance with the Tyrells, but still the Renly armor part should have been there.
I also read that Joffrey fought but yet here he's a wimp. Why? We get it, we are supposed to hate him, you don't need to shove that down our throats every single episode.

The battle was ok, but even for a TV show it wasn't that great. The Battle of Philippi in HBO's Rome was more visually impressive. But it's been a while since I've seen it.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 28 mai 2012 - 06:51 .

[Volus Warlord]

I haven't seen any episodes and won't until I read at least 4 books, but.. after some Google image searching..

it really seems the whole "ugliness" factor was neutered, lol. Tyrion and Brienne were supposed to look like abominations. And while they aren't particularly attractive, they are by no means as horrid as they ought to look.

[Aeowyn]

Iirc Brienne was never supposed to look like an abomination. She was supposed to look very manly and I think they found the perfect actress for her role.

[Costin_Razvan]

Still, I read in the wikia that Baelish came up with the idea of dressing someone in Renly's armor, which caused fear in enemy ranks and even made some switch sides. Up until now, Baelish's been pretty lackluster this season. He did mastermind the alliance with the Tyrells, but still the Renly armor part should have been there.

It wasn't mentioned until after the battle in the books though, keep that in mind. I was more impressed with Blackwater then Phillipi in Rome.

 
I also read that Joffrey fought but yet here he's a wimp. Why? We get it, we are supposed to hate him, you don't need to shove that down our throats every single episode.  

He didn't exactly fight so to speak, he stood with his men on the battlements then withdrew when Cersei told him to, or rather she ordered the Kingsguard to take Joffrey back when Joffrey wanted to command the crossbowmen at a gate after Tyrion was taken down. Joffrey was not shown as a coward in the books though. In fact he had the balls to go against Tywin in the books by calling him a coward who hid during Robert's rebelion while his "father" fought.

Aeowyn: What are your thoughts on Pod? I thought he was supposed to be a small easily scarred child. Have to say the casting for his character wasn't great.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 28 mai 2012 - 09:34 .

[Chewin]

Great episode! Martin should now go an write every continued episode. Glad that the battle was the main focus. Though I still would have hoped Joffrey to do something useful instead of being playing the whimp in basically every episode. Guess there is nothing more to him than that (mildly put).

LPPrince wrote...
That's why "The Rains of Castamere" played during the credits.

The Rains of Castamere is a song about Tywin's victory over the Reynes of Castamere and their rebellion. The Reynes are now extinct thanks to him.

Though for you NON-BOOK READERS, if you listen to the song, beware- its significance is more than just its appropriateness after what Tywin just did.

In A Storm of Swords, that song becomes MUCH more important. I'd avoid the comment section just in case.

Now listen to it and revel in your newfound knowledge.

Ah, so that's the song Tyrion has been whistling in more than a few episodes. Really like this one.

Modifié par Chewin3, 28 mai 2012 - 07:58 .

[congealeddgtllvr]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Still, I read in the wikia that Baelish came up with the idea of dressing someone in Renly's armor, which caused fear in enemy ranks and even made some switch sides. Up until now, Baelish's been pretty lackluster this season. He did mastermind the alliance with the Tyrells, but still the Renly armor part should have been there.

I'm pretty sure I saw Loras in Renly's armor.  It'll be cool if they mention it in the finale, but it's a small thing imo compared to the Tyrell alliance, which should in no way be underestimated. 

Still, there were so many scenes that messed Baelish up this season.  Those scenes with Cat and Cercei made him look like an idiot and they were just things that book Baelish would never do.  The scene with Ros was pointless.  Even the preview makes him sound like he's trying to intimidate Sansa which is OOC imo.  I feel like the producers don't get that he is supposed to be scary because of his subtlety, I don't know...

[RedArmyShogun]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Varys: I've always hated the bells. They ring for horror: A dead king, a city under siege....
Tyrion: A wedding.
Varys: Exactly.

I laughed at that in the show actully.  So the next season would be when? Next year? The Winter?

[Addai]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Still, I read in the wikia that Baelish came up with the idea of dressing someone in Renly's armor, which caused fear in enemy ranks and even made some switch sides. Up until now, Baelish's been pretty lackluster this season. He did mastermind the alliance with the Tyrells, but still the Renly armor part should have been there.

There's no way they could have done that without either spoiling the surprise or the impact of the "burst into the doors" ending.  Baelish is in the previews for next week, maybe they'll bring it up.

[Aeowyn]

Addai67 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Still, I read in the wikia that Baelish came up with the idea of dressing someone in Renly's armor, which caused fear in enemy ranks and even made some switch sides. Up until now, Baelish's been pretty lackluster this season. He did mastermind the alliance with the Tyrells, but still the Renly armor part should have been there.

There's no way they could have done that without either spoiling the surprise or the impact of the "burst into the doors" ending.  Baelish is in the previews for next week, maybe they'll bring it up.

Well like Costin said, in the books you only find out later that it was Petyr who came up with the idea.

[TJPags]

Chewin3 wrote...

Great episode! Martin should now go an write every continued episode. Glad that the battle was the main focus. Though I still would have hoped Joffrey to do something useful instead of being playing the whimp in basically every episode. Guess there is nothing more to him than that (mildly put).

LPPrince wrote...
That's why "The Rains of Castamere" played during the credits.

The Rains of Castamere is a song about Tywin's victory over the Reynes of Castamere and their rebellion. The Reynes are now extinct thanks to him.

Though for you NON-BOOK READERS, if you listen to the song, beware- its significance is more than just its appropriateness after what Tywin just did.

In A Storm of Swords, that song becomes MUCH more important. I'd avoid the comment section just in case.

Now listen to it and revel in your newfound knowledge.

Ah, so that's the song Tyrion has been whistling in more than a few episodes. Really like this one.

I don't think that's the song he was whistling . . . .I'm pretty sure the song he whistles is one connected to his first wife, who he married when he was . . oh, 13 I believe.  She was a **** his brother Jaime paid so Tyrion could have his first woman . . . they "fell in love" (well, he did . . unsure about her) and got married and lived together for a while . . .until his father found out and, well, put a stop to it. 

[LPPrince]

Tyrion whistling "The Rains of Castamere"

[HoonDing]

Important characters fighting in those big battles without helmet is dumb.

[LPPrince]

Helmets are for red shirts.

[RedArmyShogun]

HoonDing wrote...

Important characters fighting in those big battles without helmet is dumb.

Its just a "rule" hollywood has. Thats why you'll never see a live action HALO movie as seeing MC running around without a helmet would make a fan rage not seen since....

But yeah basically its like an unspoken rule that the face must always be shown, think of the recent superhero movies even in those you wee them minus a mask (or fully remade so they don't even have one) as much if not more than as when they are in costume.

Its why I don't want a Deadpool movie, they would ruin it. And its why the characters that wore helmets in battle never do on the show.

In too many cases with actors, its all about the boobs or the face, rather than real acting ability.

Also funny knock off dvd, I bet it sells rarely.

Modifié par Confess-A-Bear, 28 mai 2012 - 09:47 .

[TJPags]

LPPrince wrote...

Tyrion whistling "The Rains of Castamere"

Not convinced it's Rains . . .could be, may not be.

Would make more sense for it to be Seasons of my Love, the song Tysha sang (that's his first wife) and which in the books we are told he whistles.

The only lyrics I could find:  "I loved a maid, as white as winter, with moonglow in her hair".

That tune I heard him whistling, while it bears a resemblance to Rains (which we've now heard) could also fit those lyrics above.

[LPPrince]

Yeah, I'd be willing to believe its Seasons of My Love.

Sure it could be Rains, but Seasons would make more sense.

[Brockololly]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Still, I read in the wikia that Baelish came up with the idea of dressing someone in Renly's armor, which caused fear in enemy ranks and even made some switch sides. Up until now, Baelish's been pretty lackluster this season. He did mastermind the alliance with the Tyrells, but still the Renly armor part should have been there.

I think Loras was in Renly's armor. And as has been said, you don't learn that fact until after the battle is over. Or actually in the books we don't see the Tyrells charging in and saving the day, we just hear about it from Dontos spreading the news to Sansa that they've been saved by Renly's ghost.

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
I also read that Joffrey fought but yet here he's a wimp. Why? We get it, we are supposed to hate him, you don't need to shove that down our throats every single episode.

No, I'm pretty sure he doesn't fight in the book. Tyrion puts him in charge of some catapults and he lets Joffrey have his fun by catapulting some traitors over the wall into the Blackwater. And then he more or less does the same thing as the show, runs off to the Keep after Cersei tells Lancel to go get him. Meanwhile Joffrey is at the gate to the Red Keep commanding crossbowmen who are firing on a mob outside the Red Keep. Joffrey last episode was more like Book Joffrey- he's more a coward and a delusional teenager on a power trip, not a total psycho.

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
The battle was ok, but even for a TV show it wasn't that great. The Battle of Philippi in HBO's Rome was more visually impressive. But it's been a while since I've seen it.

Eh...at least visually, I preferred Blackwater over Phillippi. Rome probably did a little better in having some establishing shots, but I enjoyed Blackwater more since there was more going on, with the naval aspect, even if the show really gimped that part of the battle.

The best battle (IMO) comes in A  Storm of Swords. I hope they can do that one justice visually.

Modifié par Brockololly, 28 mai 2012 - 10:52 .

[LPPrince]

I wonder what Tyrion will look like this coming Sunday.