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[TJPags]

Well, Loras and Renly were hardly blatant in the books. Hints and inuendo, but certainly never that blatant. Nor did we ever see Loras egging Renly on to . . .well, anything.

Whoever plays Arya may be the golden find of this series - she's really doing a fantastic job, certainly better than any other child/young actor on the series.

[Seagloom]

Truthfully very little has been as I have pictured. That was part of what made it surreal for me at the start. I have a vivid imagination and my memory of the characters' novel counterparts burns in my mind. I find myself lenient with landscapes. I am usually satisfied if they look pretty. >.<

The horse scene had to be the most tragic part of this series so far. I love horses. :/

Arya was great as always, although I enjoyed the scene with Littlefinger and Varys not so subtly threatening each other most. It also must be reiterated that this show has one of the coolest intros ever. Seeing the Eyrie added to the clockwork was spiffy.

[KenKenpachi]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

KenKenpachi wrote...

Just started watching it, and I have mixed views on it. But I plan to watch it some more, see if I might like it or not. But one thing I found funny was just how many of the people are just dicks, and like...everyone just stares or ignores it. I mean this isn't High School Gym class. Most of you have swords, yah know you could...I'll suggest something radical here but umm yes, Kill them.

You should read the books. They're tons better than the Star Wars EU. Well, technically, a lot of things are better than the Star Wars EU.

Speak no more of your heresy Foul pagan. The Thrawn Trilogy is more meaningful than your life >>....well maybe. As to the books, honestly didn't even here of them till now, and I'm not into fantasy novels really. 90% of my books are non fiction historical texts, namely around history, space, and military topics, and then Science Fiction/Military Fiction. Very few Fantasy books are on my shelf.

[Addai]

KenKenpachi wrote...
Speak no more of your heresy Foul pagan. The Thrawn Trilogy is more meaningful than your life >>....well maybe. As to the books, honestly didn't even here of them till now, and I'm not into fantasy novels really. 90% of my books are non fiction historical texts, namely around history, space, and military topics, and then Science Fiction/Military Fiction. Very few Fantasy books are on my shelf.

You might like these.  They're not so much fantasy as historical fiction.  I prefer history to fantasy myself.

@Seagloom- I loved the Varys vs. Littlefinger conversation, too.  Littlefinger has a lot of presence in this series.

[TJPags]

Watching the rerun, I'm actually quite enjoying the scene between Robert and Cersei . . . it's quite well done . . . .puts a slightly different spin on their relationship . . . not sure if that's a good thing or a bad one . . .

[KenKenpachi]

Addai67 wrote...

KenKenpachi wrote...
Speak no more of your heresy Foul pagan. The Thrawn Trilogy is more meaningful than your life >>....well maybe. As to the books, honestly didn't even here of them till now, and I'm not into fantasy novels really. 90% of my books are non fiction historical texts, namely around history, space, and military topics, and then Science Fiction/Military Fiction. Very few Fantasy books are on my shelf.

You might like these.  They're not so much fantasy as historical fiction.  I prefer history to fantasy myself.

@Seagloom- I loved the Varys vs. Littlefinger conversation, too.  Littlefinger has a lot of presence in this series.

Hmm I'll take a look at them next time I'm in B&N then. I mean anyone around here would have them, would be them...meh used to be lots of book stores around my area. Now short of two used book stores and B&N we just have Walmart. So it would be listed as Historical Fiction, Drama, etc?

[Addai]

KenKenpachi wrote...
Hmm I'll take a look at them next time I'm in B&N then. I mean anyone around here would have them, would be them...meh used to be lots of book stores around my area. Now short of two used book stores and B&N we just have Walmart. So it would be listed as Historical Fiction, Drama, etc?

It will be in sci-fi/ fantasy.  I guess people call it "low fantasy."

For those who liked Varys vs. Littlefinger, there's this quote from an Inside TV article:  "It’s like the head of the KGB and the head of CIA getting together for a coffee break."

Modifié par Addai67, 16 mai 2011 - 04:00 .

[barenas]

It's definitely a good read, Ken. If you enjoy Machiavellian type politics as well I think you should like it.

[WeRtheBrox]

I am enjoying the show and intend to read the books, but I'm wondering if I should wait until the end of this season so I don't spoil myself too much, or just dive in now.

Opinions?

[Travie]

WeRtheBrox wrote...

I am enjoying the show and intend to read the books, but I'm wondering if I should wait until the end of this season so I don't spoil myself too much, or just dive in now.

Opinions?

It depends on how you look at it. Either way you will be 'spoiling' the book or the show... just go with whichever you would prefer as a 'first time' experience.

[barenas]

Even though the TV series has been good to watch so far, it just can't compare to the books. It's ultimately up to you but if it were me (knowing what I know so far) I'd read the books now.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Ah, another disturbing noble family. The incest the Lannister twins have going on doesn't seem that bad anymore compared to how downright unstable so many other of these nobles are.

I'm only rooting for three characters at the moment. Ned Stark, his bastard son, and Tyrion Lannister. Though I'm interested to see what happens with the Hound.

[Catspaw]

I've read the series 3 times and I missed the innuendo concerning Renly and Loras through 2 reads. I noticed it the 3rd time because I was looking for it. Not subtle in the series. Pretty much slapped us in the face with it there. I never read Renly as weak, though. More kind than others in that world, but not weak as he appears in the show.

Loved the cells! Aesthetically, the audience chamber in the Eyrie is good on screen, but I'm wondering how the door is going to be handled later on since it's now in the floor.

Go Hound!!

[Shirosaki17]

That breast feeding scene was a bit disturbing. I'm actually surprised they filmed that. That kid looked about 10 years old with a woman's nimple in his mouth.

I wonder how much Tyrion actually knows about his siblings and what they've been doing.

[Paraxial]

ReconTeam wrote...
Ah, another disturbing noble family. The incest the Lannister twins have going on doesn't seem that bad anymore compared to how downright unstable so many other of these nobles are.

Oh it's still pretty bad.

Shirosaki17 wrote...
That breast feeding scene was a bit disturbing. I'm actually surprised they filmed that. That kid looked about 10 years old with a woman's nimple in his mouth.

Likely a fake breast or something of that nature, if for no other reason to avoid the controversy.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Bible Doctor wrote...
Oh it's still pretty bad.

True. It just seems like Lord Stark and Tyrion Lannister are the only nobles you can sympathize with. Everyone else has a dungeon full of dirty secrets. Maybe not Lady Stark, but she seems rather cold to everybody.

[Paraxial]

ReconTeam wrote...
True. It just seems like Lord Stark and Tyrion Lannister are the only nobles you can sympathize with. Everyone else has a dungeon full of dirty secrets. Maybe not Lady Stark, but she seems rather cold to everybody.

That's part of the appeal for me. Even those that could be viewed as the 'good guys' are not perfect, they are either too cold or too indifferent in their nature. Lady Stark is a great character but she seems to be too dangerously stubborn and naive.

[Seagloom]

ReconTeam wrote...

True. It just seems like Lord Stark and Tyrion Lannister are the only nobles you can sympathize with. Everyone else has a dungeon full of dirty secrets. Maybe not Lady Stark, but she seems rather cold to everybody.

It gets worse across the board. Characters one might think have no skeletons are hiding a corpse pile in their figurative closets. Other characters without skeletons change for the worse following tragic events. It will be interesting to see how Tyrion fans that have not read the books feel about him after his cat is out of the bag. I think the only kinda sorta clean characters are Jon and Arya relative to what they go through; and they both really push it at times.

[twincast]

My, Mr. Allen, quite a great body you’ve got there … and quite a nice dick. Wasn’t expecting to see that, but I’m not complaining. LOL

Anyway, the Eyrie is pretty, but looks nothing at all like in the books, but instead like it was pulled straight out of the (equally pretty) cell-shaded Prince of Persia – I’m not sold on it at all. Architectural issues aside the scenes there were simply outstanding, though.

I have to say, though, given they started out the show doing it, it’s immensely jarring that we don’t get location inserts anymore even when somewhere for the first time.

The Loras/Renly scene was very nice due to its sweet, nonchalant tone and of all the exposition scenes it felt the most natural, but the talk of becoming king did feel an ep or two too early to me.

But anyway, I loved every scene, including all the new ones, and it’s probably the best episode so far. Two thumbs and two big toes up.

[Addai]

Catspaw wrote...

I've read the series 3 times and I missed the innuendo concerning Renly and Loras through 2 reads. I noticed it the 3rd time because I was looking for it. Not subtle in the series. Pretty much slapped us in the face with it there. I never read Renly as weak, though. More kind than others in that world, but not weak as he appears in the show.

Yeah I guess they figured subtle doesn't work so well in TV.  Also, it's HBO, so... sex is mandatory.

I didn't really think of Renly as weak, but the whole description of the Summer Knights- even the name- makes out that they're just playing at court.

[naughty99]

Addai67 wrote...

Catspaw wrote...

I've read the series 3 times and I missed the innuendo concerning Renly and Loras through 2 reads. I noticed it the 3rd time because I was looking for it. Not subtle in the series. Pretty much slapped us in the face with it there. I never read Renly as weak, though. More kind than others in that world, but not weak as he appears in the show.

Yeah I guess they figured subtle doesn't work so well in TV.  Also, it's HBO, so... sex is mandatory.

I didn't really think of Renly as weak, but the whole description of the Summer Knights- even the name- makes out that they're just playing at court.

It's an interesting choice, I suppose it will make the scene with Brienne slightly more believable than in the book.

My favorite scene was Arya chasing the cats as well!<3

Modifié par naughty99, 16 mai 2011 - 03:09 .

[Brockololly]

I feel like they're almost getting ahead of themselves at times, like how they were showing Renly and Loras. And some of the mystery that you have in the books (like Varys and Illyrio talking in the books where it wasn't obvious who was talking since it was from Arya's POV or the constant foreshadowing with the dragon eggs) has all the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face.

I mean, I was talking with one of my friends who hasn't read the book and he just nonchalantly called how Dany's story ends in GoT. I just wonder if some of the sort of "Oh ****!" moments you have in the books will still be there or whether the show will basically telegraph most of the big twists too early on.

Good episode though- the Mountain/Hound stuff is great, Arya is wonderful and I liked how they had more shots of the Red Keep from a distance and the Eyrie to give a better sense of scale to the world. I do miss the part where they have to get up to the Eyrie as I thought that sounded crazy in the book, especially if you're not a fan of heights.

[Addai]

I would guess they feel that some of GRRM's scene changes are too abrupt. If you get to season 2 and suddenly Renly is.. you know... but people are all like "who is that guy??", then that wouldn't work out so well. So they're telegraphing some of the development early.

They picked the perfect cat for that scene with Arya. So much personality. lol