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[Wires_From_The_Wall]

 

 

I see your point, but she didn't look scared to me, that's what bothers me. She acted like an actual lover, not like a toy.

Your mention about inner circle however... Didn't thought much about it, but yeah, looks like I need to read the book again.

..Maybe that is  why she held the bow, not the other girl. Maybe she is  good in hiding her fear and pretending she enjoys it: Ramsay likes her act. Or maybe he has found a genuine psycho in her. I think both options mean Ramsay is being Ramsay enough.  Though I agree that if she grows out to be The Lady Ramsay by his side or some such, then it appears little unfitting very quickly.

 

"Walda, this is Ramsay Snow. My bastard."

 " a pleasure, mother." *kiss on cheek*

Such fine gentleman.

[LPPrince]

What they could do is

 

Spoiler

Have Tyrion come across a dying Shae, who utters her final line in the books, but in a "I love you" sort of way before she goes out, and that sends him over the edge, further driving him to end Tywin

[CrimsonN7]

He's a cowardly dwarf, Who demanded something that he had no right to.

 

._. Seriously Tywin reversed their Houses fortune, Turned them into the powerhouse they are, Ensured stability as befit his station as Warden of the West and kept the gold flowing to the Kingdom.

 

And as third child he approaches this Paragon and demands to be heir to their Ancestral Lands?

 

Despite being unwed, unbloodied and having no experience with the governing of a keep little lone an entire Realm.

 

He's a bloody murderer, nothing more.

 

Sure Tywin was a brilliant political tactician but a deeply cruel man also, I shed no tears when I found out his fate. Plus working with those gross Frey's to help practically wipe out my favourite house didn't help endear me to him either. Tyrion lived his whole life being treated like sh*t by his family and his only crime was being born a dwarf, and despite everything people have thrown at him he still has a brilliant and positive outlook on life. He saved them against Stannis at the Blackwater and he gets no thanks for it. I love that dwarf.

[SwobyJ]

Tyrion, Arya, Sansa teamup.

 

I wants it, so it of course will not happen.

[TheRealJayDee]

Still haven't seen the episode, I know what happens though. Can't wait to watch it once I get home from work tomorrow! 

 

But please, folks, try to be a little more careful with the spoilers. We have this fancy method of hiding spoilers now, so it wouldn't hurt to use it (like many already do). Be nice to the non-readers, aye?! 

[Han Shot First]

What they could do is

 

Spoiler

Have Tyrion come across a dying Shae, who utters her final line in the books, but in a "I love you" sort of way before she goes out, and that sends him over the edge, further driving him to end Tywin

 

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Now that you've mentioned it, I wonder if that is where the series is going. 

 

Tywin has Shae killed instead of Tyrion murdering her?

[LPPrince]

I think its possibru

[Cainhurst Crow]

Spoiler

Now that you've mentioned it, I wonder if that is where the series is going. 

 

Tywin has Shae killed instead of Tyrion murdering her?

 

Spoiler

Wouldn't surprise me. It doesn't seem in character for tywin to leave her alive as a loose end, let alone sleep with her out of the blue.

[mybudgee]

It was the Tyrells I tell ya!!

[MisterJB]

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Now that you've mentioned it, I wonder if that is where the series is going. 

 

Tywin has Shae killed instead of Tyrion murdering her?

 

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I hope not. It bothers me already that they turned what was an abusive relationship in the books into a loving one in the show. If they change Shae's death, then they ruin one of the more powerful moments in the books and Tyrion's mentality in the fifth season would have to be entirely different as he goes to the Free Cities.

Mind you, it will already be different since Tysha was supposed to have been the only woman who ever loved but Shae's betrayal could compensate for that.

 

Fortunately, I believe there is a glimps in one of the trailers where you can see Shae giving her testimony at the trial.

[AresKeith]

Spoiler

[mybudgee]

@AresKeith: That dude is a bit obnoxious

[MisterJB]

It was the Tyrells I tell ya!!

Well, there are a great many theories floating about. Let's hear what someone who was present has to say.

 

Brienne: It was Stannis! It was a shade in the form of Stannis!

 

Thank you Brienne.

In my opinion, the poor boy just chocked on some pie. Cersei will soon realize how her grief clouded her mind, will apologize to Tyron and the Lannister family will bond over the tragic loss of Joffrey.

[CrimsonN7]

Alright just watched the episode, really enjoyed. Loved seeing Bran in warg mode, entering Summer pretty cool to see. The Purple Wedding didn't disappoint, that dwarf battle of the Houses re-enactment ugh, goddamn Lannisters man. Great to see the Viper getting in some sly digs against Cersei and Tywin and flaunting around his low born mistress, nice.

 

Also good to see Mace finally make his appearance and Ser Dontos is back in action to help Sansa. Joffrey's scenes were excellent, very well done.  

[Halfdan The Menace]

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[Cainhurst Crow]

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I hope not. It bothers me already that they turned what was an abusive relationship in the books into a loving one in the show. If they change Shae's death, then they ruin one of the more powerful moments in the books and Tyrion's mentality in the fifth season would have to be entirely different as he goes to the Free Cities.

Mind you, it will already be different since Tysha was supposed to have been the only woman who ever loved but Shae's betrayal could compensate for that.

 

Fortunately, I believe there is a glimps in one of the trailers where you can see Shae giving her testimony at the trial.

 

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This is somewhat blasphemous to say, but I found the entire execution of tyrions fall and banishment full of out of character-ness abound and will be glad if they change the details. What was the point of having twin and shae sleep together? It goes against tywins character and only serves to make tyrion suffer because that's what characters in game of thrones do. In my opinion the show's doing a good job fleshing out characters in a way the books do not, rather then just throwing in more characters to distract from how flat some of the main and supporting characters are or how illogical they're acting.

 

That's just my two cents however.

[MisterJB]

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This is somewhat blasphemous to say, but I found the entire execution of tyrions fall and banishment full of out of character-ness abound and will be glad if they change the details. What was the point of having twin and shae sleep together? It goes against tywins character and only serves to make tyrion suffer because that's what characters in game of thrones do. In my opinion the show's doing a good job fleshing out characters in a way the books do not, rather then just throwing in more characters to distract from how flat some of the main and supporting characters are or how illogical they're acting.

 

That's just my two cents however.

 

Spoiler

I imagine that the reason is as simply as that GRRM needed Shae to be there for that scene because he didn't want to write Tyrion going around on a murder spree in King's Landing and, somehow, evading capture while convincing Varys to come along.

Thus, Shae is there and Tywin has a bit of hipocrisy. It doesn't really add anything to the character and it does detract somewhat. It is evidently a case of the plot making the characters move rather than the other way around but I think it's easily forgivable. Tyrion killed Shae because she sold him out, not because she fucked another man.

[Wires_From_The_Wall]

. The Purple Wedding didn't disappoint, that dwarf battle of the Houses re-enactment ugh, goddamn Lannisters man

It was weird they had one dwarf being Joffrey, too. Does this not mock the king and put him on same level with the other false dwarf kings. There is something for watcher to enjoy in that, but why would Joff ever allow this!

[mybudgee]

No. No no. It was Blackfish!!

[TheJediSaint]

It was the Tyrells I tell ya!!

 

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You could say one of them had their (little) finger in it.

[Isichar]

Haha Game of Thrones and weddings...

[schwarzweiss]

Spoiler

Now that you've mentioned it, I wonder if that is where the series is going. 

 

Tywin has Shae killed instead of Tyrion murdering her?

Spoiler

Since we haven't seen this Scene from the Trailers yet i think it's pretty obvious that this is Tywins bed, i think they will do it exactly like in the books.

 

lol that scene "A pleasure, mother"

 

 

 

 

 

[Some Geth]

That was a good episode.

 

GRRM can write really good episodes.

[Wires_From_The_Wall]

Game of Thrones could greatly benefit from a release similar to this:

http://www.amazon.co...D/dp/B008QT1T70

 

A proper, tastefully wrapped box set for 45-60 year old daytime tv fans.

 

"re-live the touching moment  of Robb and his loyal companion becoming united in Red Wedding"

[MisterJB]

I wonder if they'll ever remark how it was Joffrey who ordered the assassin to kill Bran.

Probably not. Chances are no one really remembers the whole dragonbone knife and how Littlefinger lied to the Starks. And the way Tyrion uderstood it just from Joffrey's comment on how he "is no stranger to valyrian steel" was already far fetched in the books, anyway.