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#7026
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All hail King Rickon of House Stark, Third of his name, King of the First Men, King of Winter, protector of the realm, the King in the North

 

long may he reign

 

SHAGGYDOG!!!

 

He'll have to have a Seneschal or a Steward to rule for him. The lad is only like 4 years old. And being raised by Wildlings and Cannibals on Skagos while fighting unicorns can't have been good for his mental health. He'll be lucky if he doesn't turn out to be half as insane as Sweetrobin.



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Eaten by her dragons. It's the most likely scenario when dumb people keep exotic pets.

 

Victarion Greyjoy might unleash them on her with the Dragon Horn. I see a renewed rise in power for them. The Greyjoys are always cool. They just want to rape, pillage, and burn. No more, no less.



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I wonder what new fan favorite characters are gonna die horrifically in the next season.

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I wonder what new fan favorite characters are gonna die horrifically in the next season.

 

Read the books and find out:

 

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I don't regret clicking that cause there's almost no one I know.

 

Ygritte died. It was very well done and sad as ****.

 

So this confirms my suspicion that Jon is basically a Mary Sue or at least has a "standard protagonist" shield. He gets away with risking his life far too much.



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So this confirms my suspicion that Jon is basically a Mary Sue or at least has a "standard protagonist" shield. He gets away with risking his life far too much.

Well, of course. He's the Azor Azai (theoretically, nothing close to confirmed). If he dies, it's gonna be in the last book. 



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I don't regret clicking that cause there's almost no one I know.

 

Ygritte died. It was very well done and sad as ****.

 

So this confirms my suspicion that Jon is basically a Mary Sue or at least has a "standard protagonist" shield. He gets away with risking his life far too much.

 

Spoiler

 

Hell, you think Jon Snow is a mary-sue, just look at the HBO version of Daenerys. 



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Well, of course. He's the Azor Azai (theoretically, nothing close to confirmed). If he dies, it's gonna be in the last book. 

 

Look at my avatar. That's been the theory for Jon Snow's true parentage for almost 15 years now.

 

Martin writes prophecies and turns them on their head. I wouldn't put stock in this idea.



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I really don't think you should leave that spoiler sitting there in the open



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I really don't think you should leave that spoiler sitting there in the open

 

Which spoiler?



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Which spoiler?

 

Either you fixed it or I was hallucinating.  Either way works.

 

(And no harm done, since I've read the books)



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I wonder what new fan favorite characters are gonna die horrifically in the next season.

sadly there's no real fan favorite casualties on the horizon



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Look at my avatar. That's been the theory for Jon Snow's true parentage for almost 15 years now.

 

Martin writes prophecies and turns them on their head. I wouldn't put stock in this idea.

at this point its less a theory, and more gospel



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Ride along on an adventure where any lead character can die, whether you’re Sean Bean, Sean Bean’s wife, Sean Bean’s best friend, Sean Bean’s son, Sean Bean’s daughter-in-law, Sean Bean’s family dogs, or Sean Bean’s unborn grandkid. All men must die who are in any way close to Sean Bean.

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Ride along on an adventure where any lead character can die, whether you’re Sean Bean, Sean Bean’s wife, Sean Bean’s best friend, Sean Bean’s son, Sean Bean’s daughter-in-law, Sean Bean’s family dogs, or Sean Bean’s unborn grandkid. All men must die who are in any way close to Sean Bean.

 

Who would die first in a horror movie: Sean Bean or the black guy?

 

Sean Bean would play the black guy.


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sadly there's no real fan favorite casualties on the horizon

 

Spoiler

 

AFFC and ADWD were both pretty light on the main casualties. Martin has teased that TWoW will have at least three big deaths. 



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at this point its less a theory, and more gospel

 

No, Jon is TPTWP, not Dany. Stannis is still AA.

 

Granted, many believe that Jon

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, and that Stannis is
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I don't regret clicking that cause there's almost no one I know.

 

Ygritte died. It was very well done and sad as ****.

 

So this confirms my suspicion that Jon is basically a Mary Sue or at least has a "standard protagonist" shield. He gets away with risking his life far too much.

 

I'd agree with this, though I think Jon is far from the only one. Truth be told, if none of the main cast had the standard protagonist shield, everyone would probably be dead at this point. 



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I'd agree with this, though I think Jon is far from the only one. Truth be told, if none of the main cast had the standard protagonist shield, everyone would probably be dead at this point. 

 

ASoIaF is usually really good with its 'protagonist shield', so to speak keeping it relatively realistic with how characters survive. 

 

Daenerys is really the only one who has plot armor, so to speak, and even then, the curious way Martin writes her compared to everybody else infers that something big is going to happen to her, something that's going to break her down.

 

Granted though, Dany gets significant plot protection in the show, and is generally treated as a mary sue character.

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Spoiler

 

AFFC and ADWD were both pretty light on the main casualties. Martin has teased that TWoW will have at least three big deaths. 

Neither of those are really favorites though, we've barely seen one since Season 1 and the other is half way through that door already



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No, Jon is TPTWP, not Dany. Stannis is still AA.

 

Granted, many believe that Jon

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, and that Stannis is
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nah, Dany and you know who are going to be the antagonists, once the North is cleaned up



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Martin has teased that TWoW will have at least three big deaths. 

I think we know two of those already

 

Spoiler



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Well, of course. He's the Azor Azai

 

PFFT! Ha!

 

Stannis is Azor, Jon just deluded himself into thinking the title was meant for him while the blood mage stared at him like he was insane.

 

If the lady preaching the faith doesn't buy into you when you make such a claim, why would i, the reader think it to be as such?



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I think we know two of those already

 

Spoiler

 

I subscribe to Jojen-paste theory. I'm really hoping he spares the Kingslayer (I'd say he's tied for favorite with Jon Targ- I mean, Snow), though he's in a bit of a stretchy scenario with Brienne and UnCat.

 

I don't see Barristan dropping just yet. Ser Jorah might. Seeing that Dany is now seemingly surrounded by one of Drogo's old Bloodriders (the one that refused to bow before Dany) might mean that she is now his hostage... or a burned skeleton, considering Drogon is with Dany. That said, I see Jorah dying trying to redeem himself by trying to rescue his beloved Khaleesi.

 

I think it's a safe bet that Theon at least will bite it. Martin claimed that three fan-favorites would die, and it just makes too much sense not to kill Theon. I think Asha will be spared though. Stannis might die, but I seriously hope not. I think Davos is a possibility as well, and not a small one.

 

I don't see how MT is in any real danger, at least not yet. She's a secondary character for the time being. Jon Connington is definitely a possibility, with his Greyscale affliction. I don't know what to make of Aegon just yet. Varys was very careful not to explicitly call him a Targaryen, even to a man who was dying.

 

I'm going to say that the 3 fan-favorites that will be most likely to die are Davos, Theon, and Jorah. Other contenders are Littlefinger (I think the next book is going to be one where we really see Sansa come into play), the Hound (Cleganebowl is going to go down, and they're going to kill each other), Jaime (I'm still banking on him being the valonqar, but still, it's a possibility), Tyrion (minor chance), Stannis (I really don't think his story is done yet though), Jon Snow (granted, if he dies, I guarantee it will be a 'death is cheap' scenario and they'll bring him back as a wight, or as UnJon, or whatever), and possibly Tommen.

 

Others in the running: Robert Arryn (Littlefinger or Sansa will kill him), a pattering of Freys, Loras Tyrell (if the rumors of the siege of Dragonstone are to be believed), Barristan (I'll give that to you), and possibly Brienne (though a lot of people think she's got to get a kiss from Jaime first).



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either use a tag or let's move this to the ASoIaF book discussion,,, if there is one