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[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Tyrion will be very lucky if he survives till the end. Let alone if he inherits Casterly Rock. He may, but I wouldn't hold out hope for it.

Dinklage does a ripping job of making him very likeable, but being likeable to the audience isn't the same thing as being likeable in-universe.

[Treacherous J Slither]

You are really overstating his ability to change people's minds with just words.

 

He pretty much fails at that when he doesn't have his daddies money backing him up, that's been demonstrated enough i figure.

 

 *shrug* Whatever works.

[mybudgee]

Tyrion will be very lucky if he survives till the end. Let alone if he inherits Casterly Rock. He may, but I wouldn't hold out hope for it.

 

Bite your tongue..

[RobRam10]

Tyrion will survive all of the upcoming ordeal. Its Daenerys or Jon who are going to be dead at the end of the story.

[mybudgee]

Tyrion will survive all of the upcoming ordeal. Its Daenerys or Jon who are going to be dead at the end of the story.

I think not

[KaiserShep]

Tyrion will survive all of the upcoming ordeal. Its Daenerys or Jon who are going to be dead at the end of the story.

 

Man, if Tyrion dies, my list of characters to care about will be getting dangerously short. It's already down to 4.

[mybudgee]

Man, if Tyrion dies, my list of characters to care about will be getting dangerously short. It's already down to 4.

Mine is down to 2

[Seraphim24]

Hey! I'm bumping this.. since the date is getting closer and all.. anyone else excited?

 

It says here there is a featurette in February.. guess it might be the first glance at Season 5.

 

http://www.mtv.com/n...e-hbo-season-5/

[FraQ]

We are rapidly approaching the point where book readers have no idea what's going to happen next.

 

In fact, both Sansa and Bran are standing on the precipice looking into the abyss.

 

It's both exciting and terrifying...

[Ozzy]

This is actually the first season I'm considering avoiding because of that fact. The White Walker family shindig was a surprise from last season and I expect more this time around.

 

Plus, I'm still a bit bitter over some of the Dorne casting news, lol. 

[Fast Jimmy]

We are rapidly approaching the point where book readers have no idea what's going to happen next.

In fact, both Sansa and Bran are standing on the precipice looking into the abyss.

It's both exciting and terrifying...

Yeah, it's approaching the point of no return here rapidly. I mean... there isn't even going to have been one book out from when the show aired to before season five airs. Martin has said it will be tough for him to release Winds of Winter before the show gets fully current. That's just... crazy.

[FraQ]

This is actually the first season I'm considering avoiding because of that fact. The White Walker family shindig was a surprise from last season and I expect more this time around.

 

Plus, I'm still a bit bitter over some of the Dorne casting news, lol. 

 

Even if D&D follow the story to George's planned conclusion, and refrain from going off script (they will almost certainly go off script), it will only be the bare bones version. The book is where the meat of the story takes place.

 

Also just curious, what Dorne casting's make you bitter?

[Jock Cranley]

A good post season summary. 

 

(Summary starts at 3:00)

 

[Ozzy]

Also just curious, what Dorne casting's make you bitter?

 

It was actually the lack of Ariane and making Trystane heir. 

[mybudgee]

Is there a confirmed date for the season 4 dvd?!?

[Ozzy]

February 17th. 

[mybudgee]

Hells yeah!
Right before my birthday!!

[Fast Jimmy]

I think we all wanted to know where whores go. It's one of life's great questions.

[FraQ]

It was actually the lack of Ariane and making Trystane heir. 

 

I hear ya, I like Arianne in the novels and will miss her character in the show!

 

They didn't cast a Penny either which makes me very very sad.

[Volourn]

So, never read the books and didn't bother with the tv version either but still got spammed with all the stupid hype all over the netz and some people (yeah I know some people) talkin' about how awesome with it (with the usual negative ninnies poo pooing it) but I didn't care. I basically let it pass me by. However, I started watching the series just before Christmas and now about a month later - after watching all 4 seasons TWICE and on my 3rd time through - I have lots to say. All of it boring ****. L0L

Before, I start, I don't care about the books yet. I don't care if they are better, worse, different, never coming out, or what the ****. This thread is about the series. I've been spoikled about the books and I still don't care if it's deeper, shallower, characters are whitewashed, made darker (lol razism), etc. THIS IS ABOUT THE TV SERIES! (actually post you want but I'll just laugh ).

My overall thoughts are it's a damn good series but not without flaws. Lots of time it seems more interested in the 'shocking kill scene' than anything else. Too bad too because as great as the action scenes are the character drama is what it does best and that's largely because of the acting (and writing of Martin). The twists didn't effect me as much others I suppose largely because I was spoiled of many of the big ala Ned's death, the RW, the PW, the GW, the OW, etc. They were still entertaining though.

Characters are the strength of the show and with so many ity's both a strength and a weakness. Strength because almost every viewer probably has their faves to draw them in. Weakness since your favorite character isn't on as much as you'd want (most of the characters have been on screen for less than 100 minutes - noteable exception is Tyrion) and of course there's always a chance your favorite will be killed so you will cry and 'quit'. L0L

My top 10 characters - this is based on 'likeability', acting, story, and anything else:

1. Tyrion - Kind of easy. He seems to be defacto favorite. Not surprising since he often hogs the screen - he more than doubles screen time of everyone else. Also, I know he's been whitewashed from the books. Still, great character and fantastic acting.

2. Sansa - Yeah, her. Probably the main character who gets a lot of flack for not being a killer. The actress is fantastic in a role that isn't super pro active. I love the character, though, because she is the most 'normal' of them all (for now). That's impressive considering how over the top the show is.

3. The Hound - What can you say. A bad ass pervert. Only negative for me is the murder of the 'butcher boy'. Too about his potential 'death'... (book spoilers aside)

4. The Spider - How come nobody just kills him, lol? Very smart and sneaky. Who knows what his agenda is in show (books are spoiled).

5. Tywin - Epic uber evil guy hunger for power and family prestige. I laugh at those who try to paint him as a 'good guy' though. Great actor.

6. Brienne - Kick ass warrior. I know people hate the 'female fighter kicks all the boys' trope but it works here for me since the character isn't going on about 'beating all the bioys' but just being the warrior she is.

7. Peter Baleish the Littlefinger - Creepy old man is creepy. Evil and smart.

8. Jon Snow - Yeah, yeah. Typical heroic role but is the main connection to the Wall. Plus, obvious he ain't dying any time soon (fake out death book spoiler notwithstanding ).

9. Arya - Overrated. No hero. She was a hateful little monster from episode 1. Her morals are not all that removed from guys like the Mountain . It just takes time to emerge. Had one 'cute child' scene.. Still, her journey (plus a nice connection to Mr. Hound) made the character worthwhile.

10. Ygritte/ Sir Jorrah / Bronn / Davros - Neato secondary characters.


Favorite episodes include Mockingbird, The Viper & The Hound & The Watchers on the Wall (S4), The Rains of Castmere & Second Sons (S3), Blackwater (S2), and The Kingsroad & Fire & Blood S1).


Can't wait until Season 5. Just have to hope my favorite characters don't bite it.

I have ordered the books as they should be arriving next week so I'll see in what ways they are better and what ways they are worse than the series.

[TheChris92]

So, never read the books and didn't bother with the tv version either but still got spammed with all the stupid hype all over the netz and some people (yeah I know some people) talkin' about how awesome with it (with the usual negative ninnies poo pooing it) but I didn't care. I basically let it pass me by. However, I started watching the series just before Christmas and now about a month later - after watching all 4 seasons TWICE and on my 3rd time through - I have lots to say. All of it boring ****. L0L

Before, I start, I don't care about the books yet. I don't care if they are better, worse, different, never coming out, or what the ****. This thread is about the series. I've been spoikled about the books and I still don't care if it's deeper, shallower, characters are whitewashed, made darker (lol razism), etc. THIS IS ABOUT THE TV SERIES! (actually post you want but I'll just laugh ).

My overall thoughts are it's a damn good series but not without flaws. Lots of time it seems more interested in the 'shocking kill scene' than anything else. Too bad too because as great as the action scenes are the character drama is what it does best and that's largely because of the acting (and writing of Martin). The twists didn't effect me as much others I suppose largely because I was spoiled of many of the big ala Ned's death, the RW, the PW, the GW, the OW, etc. They were still entertaining though.

Characters are the strength of the show and with so many ity's both a strength and a weakness. Strength because almost every viewer probably has their faves to draw them in. Weakness since your favorite character isn't on as much as you'd want (most of the characters have been on screen for less than 100 minutes - noteable exception is Tyrion) and of course there's always a chance your favorite will be killed so you will cry and 'quit'. L0L

My top 10 characters - this is based on 'likeability', acting, story, and anything else:

1. Tyrion - Kind of easy. He seems to be defacto favorite. Not surprising since he often hogs the screen - he more than doubles screen time of everyone else. Also, I know he's been whitewashed from the books. Still, great character and fantastic acting.

2. Sansa - Yeah, her. Probably the main character who gets a lot of flack for not being a killer. The actress is fantastic in a role that isn't super pro active. I love the character, though, because she is the most 'normal' of them all (for now). That's impressive considering how over the top the show is.

3. The Hound - What can you say. A bad ass pervert. Only negative for me is the murder of the 'butcher boy'. Too about his potential 'death'... (book spoilers aside)

4. The Spider - How come nobody just kills him, lol? Very smart and sneaky. Who knows what his agenda is in show (books are spoiled).

5. Tywin - Epic uber evil guy hunger for power and family prestige. I laugh at those who try to paint him as a 'good guy' though. Great actor.

6. Brienne - Kick ass warrior. I know people hate the 'female fighter kicks all the boys' trope but it works here for me since the character isn't going on about 'beating all the bioys' but just being the warrior she is.

7. Peter Baleish the Littlefinger - Creepy old man is creepy. Evil and smart.

8. Jon Snow - Yeah, yeah. Typical heroic role but is the main connection to the Wall. Plus, obvious he ain't dying any time soon (fake out death book spoiler notwithstanding ).

9. Arya - Overrated. No hero. She was a hateful little monster from episode 1. Her morals are not all that removed from guys like the Mountain . It just takes time to emerge. Had one 'cute child' scene.. Still, her journey (plus a nice connection to Mr. Hound) made the character worthwhile.

10. Ygritte/ Sir Jorrah / Bronn / Davros - Neato secondary characters.


Favorite episodes include Mockingbird, The Viper & The Hound & The Watchers on the Wall (S4), The Rains of Castmere & Second Sons (S3), Blackwater (S2), and The Kingsroad & Fire & Blood S1).


Can't wait until Season 5. Just have to hope my favorite characters don't bite it.

I have ordered the books as they should be arriving next week so I'll see in what ways they are better and what ways they are worse than the series.

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[Katiefrost]

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According to GRRM's online journal entry for 1/15/15, He's a New York Jets fan. Maybe if the Jets have better season next fall, He'll be a little less murderous toward some characters.