Not necessarily. Having Melisandre meet with the Brotherhood and learn about resurrection from Thoros could factor into a huge moment from the books coming up (probably) at the end of Season 5.
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The ripple effects will be enormous, though. Catelyn was a POV character for three books. And her arc isn't done in the books. Plus LS is in the books for a reason. She will end up doing something important to the story.
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As I mentioned in a previous post, Osha said she was gonna take Rickon to Last Hearth towards the end of Season 3, so Rickon is likely there being kept hidden by the Umbers. I wouldn't be surprised if he was at least mentioned this season at some point, as he is in the book by Wyman Manderly.
Anyway, I would like Stoneheart to be in the show but it's not looking like she will. And you're right that her omission could cause problems in the show canon in the future, particularly regarding Brienne and Jaime. Hopefully the showrunners are either keeping her inclusion an extremely well-kept secret, or will introduce her in Season 6 (though I feel it won't have as much impact if they wait that long).
I'm less concerned about LS than I am about the Manderlys
Eh, I'm content with GoT covering uncharted territories now and doing its own thing independent of the book.
It'll be interesting to see where everything is going IMO.
Eh, I'm content with GoT covering uncharted territories now and doing its own thing independent of the book.
It'll be interesting to see where everything is going IMO.
I don't want to see the show writers' vision of Westeros, I want to see the books on screen
obviously they can't do a 100% transfer, but I'm getting weary off cut characters and storylines
Some years back, GRRM went out and told the world he has problems with fanfiction etc. Doesn't like it one bit. Fanfiction is exactly what the show writers are doing right now. I guess its ok when he gets paid for it.
Some years back, GRRM went out and told the world he has problems with fanfiction etc. Doesn't like it one bit. Fanfiction is exactly what the show writers are doing right now. I guess its ok when he gets paid for it.
Well, not entirely, because GRRM is probably still involved in it, as he works fairly closely with the show. If he disapproves of something too vehemently I don't see why he couldn't still step in and say no.
It's not like they have a lot of options in any event. They can't just postpone the show for another decade until Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring come out, have Sansa, Arya and Bran suddenly be full grown adults, probably lose one or two cast members...
Well, not entirely, because GRRM is probably still involved in it, as he works fairly closely with the show. If he disapproves of something too vehemently I don't see why he couldn't still step in and say no.
It's not like they have a lot of options in any event. They can't just postpone the show for another decade until Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring come out, have Sansa, Arya and Bran suddenly be full grown adults, probably lose one or two cast members...
Nor, I would point out, can they simply follow GRRM's vision to a tee because spoilers, that's exactly what the show would be to anyone who follows the books story.
So either GOT suddenly stops existing, which won't happen. They spoil all the books events by doing them in the tv show first, which can't happen. Or they go in a different direction, keeping things semi-spoilery without going too far off course, which they shouldn't do, but is probably their best course of action.
Have you guys done the favorite houses game? I saw it on the ASOIAF forums, seems pretty fun. There are so many most people were just doing the major houses though.
Targaryen
Lannister
Stark
Martel
Baratheon
Arryn
Greyjoy
Tyrell
Tully
Frey
House Horpe.
Death Head Moths are cool.
HBO's put up some promo's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjABoFk4yM0
Pretty much just stuff we've seen before with a couple of new bits: Petyr chatting with Orlenna, Brothel scene, Selmy being a badass.
Waait, let me get this straight... They are leaving Arianne out but including her boring youngest brother? Why would you deny me such an interesting female character? :/ Guess I'll have to make do with Melisandre.
Waait, let me get this straight... They are leaving Arianne out but including her boring youngest brother? Why would you deny me such an interesting female character? :/ Guess I'll have to make do with Melisandre.
I imagine that they are combining Quentyn and Trystane, dunno if he'll be going off to Meereen
The thing that always factors into adaptation is the fine line one has to walk between, retaining a faithful direction to that of the source material, while also being able to create amazing drama and interprate the story in such a way that it feels new and fresh to all audiences. It can at best be summarized by quoting Joseph Conrad "'My task which I am trying to achieve is, by the powers of the written word, to make you hear, to make you feel-it is, before all, to make to see'.
Or otherwise, by D. W. Griffith whose cinematic intention at his time were recorded as such: 'The task I am trying to achieve is above all to make you see. George Bluestone's all-but-pioneering work in the film-literature field, Novels into Film, which in of itself claims that 'between the percept of the visual image and the concept of the mental image lies the root difference between the two media'. In most cases, and in this one, books & film. He acknowledges the connecting link of 'seeing' in his use of the word 'image'. At the same time, he points to the fundamental difference between the way images are produced in the two media and how they are received. Finally, though, he claims that 'conceptual images evoked by verbal stimuli can scarcely be distinguished in the end from those evoked by non-verbal stimuli, and, in this respect, he shares common.
It's even crazier with something like A Song of Ice & Fire, where you have a fantasy story that hasn't even been written yet.. at least not to the end; Understanding that, the showrunners have more or less taken a gamble, because they know what they want to do with a Game of Thrones. They want to create good drama, just like Ole Bornedahl wanted to do with his 1864 series, like Spielberg wanted to do with Band of Brothers & The Pacific etc. I do, however, think that Game of Thrones (the show) has deviated itself too much from the books in such a way that I can hardly recognize it some time, but I also recognize that it's still pretty entertaining to watch. Telltale's game is pretty fun! Because I still like how the core intrigue of the books have been kept there, but I always remind myself how irritating it is that said game had to tie itself down to the whims of the show over the books -- Because it usually derives it down to one big piece of merchandise or marketing board at the expense of the tv-show. Looks here's Peter Dinklage! Here's Lena Headey! etc. Lately, it's gotten better at least, recent episode has had least guest cameos and a stronger focus on The Forresters. But ultimately it still carries the legacy of a tv-show and it's always such an annoyance when a tv-show has to be tied to a game (looking at you Remedy).
Anyway, as adaptation goes, I think Game of Thrones does it alright, but I couldn't help but lose a lot of interest by the end of the 4th season. There was just something about it's rather jarring handlement of the Hound's end of which Brienne of Tarth would arbitrarily show up and kill him, then Arya would run away. Blergh.
I imagine that they are combining Quentyn and Trystane, dunno if he'll be going off to Meereen
Meh, just one more pretty boy with probably no character. Most women are wh*res, overly sensitive princesses or queens. Was hoping for someone with bit more "balls" and cunning. And no Cersei doesn't fit the bill, she's simply a b*tch.
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Lol if a woman had balls she would be a man.
Lol if a woman had balls she would be a man.
Meh, just one more pretty boy with probably no character. Most women are wh*res, overly sensitive princesses or queens. Was hoping for someone with bit more "balls" and cunning. And no Cersei doesn't fit the bill, she's simply a b*tch.
I imagine the Sand Snakes will be taking over Arianne's role
Anyway, as adaptation goes, I think Game of Thrones does it alright, but I couldn't help but lose a lot of interest by the end of the 4th season. There was just something about it's rather jarring handlement of the Hound's end of which Brienne of Tarth would arbitrarily show up and kill him, then Arya would run away. Blergh.
Cleganebowl, get hype
I imagine the Sand Snakes will be taking over Arianne's role
Yeah, but they don't have the class sadly.
Yeah, but they don't have the class sadly.
the Dornish plotline was never my favorite, and I'm not overly upset with it being streamlined more, its a shame to have characters like Arys Oakheart and Quentyn cut, but I don't see much of an issue combining the plethora of side characters we already have going on in Dorne
the Dornish plotline was never my favorite, and I'm not overly upset with it being streamlined more, its a shame to have characters like Arys Oakheart and Quentyn cut, but I don't see much of an issue combining the plethora of side characters we already have going on in Dorne
I suppose, would've liked to see her though. We got enough males running about as it is. I like Dorne overall and it would've simply enforced to contrast to other kingdoms if they had the heiress of Sunspear on the show.
I suppose, would've liked to see her though. We got enough males running about as it is. I like Dorne overall and it would've simply enforced to contrast to other kingdoms if they had the heiress of Sunspear on the show.
we're about to get 6 new female characters, but I've not been impressed with their handling of other female characters like Dany (oh gods freakin Dany), Catelyn, 'Yara', Osha, Ygritte, the lack of the Mormont girls, and such
Arya, Brienne, Margaery, Sansa, and Cersei have been pretty well done admittedly
Arya, Brienne, Margaery, Sansa, and Cersei have been pretty well done admittedly
Also Orlenna in my opinion. I like that's shes been given more show time in the show than she had in the books.
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