I think at this moment, she exists to be a reminder of the horrible things that happened to the starks. It is like she is stagnant while Arya is the one that is doing something and being more productive. One could even tell with the sadness that is always prevalent in Sansa's eyes.
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Heh. Did we forget that Arya got her 14 year old butt smacked in the face with a wooden stick by a dude repeatedly this episode?
Hey, keep your mind out of the gutter, Turing.
loooooool damn it jimmy.
Speaking of the Stark kids, what's up with Bran?
Did they confirm that they were leaving the rest of his story for next season?
Speaking of the Stark kids, what's up with Bran?
Did they confirm that they were leaving the rest of his story for next season?
Yeah, Bran won't appear this season.
They already reached the end of his story from the books.
Yeah, Bran won't appear this season.
They already reached the end of his story from the books.
Nothing like raping a Stark on her wedding night and having some broken, ball-less guy watch. Man, does Ramsay know how to party or what!
A small observation\joke in poor taste. The episode was called Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken. Pretty much the opposite of what happened to Sansa. They should chose the episode names with more care.
Show implies that Stannis and his troops will be the ones to save Sansa but it very well could be a reawakened Theon(later) after that traumatic experience.
A small observation\joke in poor taste. The episode was called Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken. Pretty much the opposite of what happened to Sansa. They should chose the episode names with more care.
She'll be fine. Everyone is making a big deal outta it. I mean, honestly what did she expect really. She knows the dude is a pure psychopath. I mean.... If I were her I'd be glad he didn't beat the sh!t outta me or break bones or whatever. Honestly, being forced upon by him on the wedding knight and having rough sex is kinda mild when you think about Ramsay and what he's really capable of doing. I mean..... He could have killed her, then raped her dead body, then told Reek to clean the mess up afterward.... I mean, that's something he'd probably be into to.
In Game of Thrones one must watch these awful scenes of brutality and say, "you know, it could have been worse"
She'll be fine. Everyone is making a big deal outta it. I mean, honestly what did she expect really. She knows the dude is a pure psychopath. I mean.... If I were her I'd be glad he didn't beat the sh!t outta me or break bones or whatever. Honestly, being forced upon by him on the wedding knight and having rough sex is kinda mild when you think about Ramsay and what he's really capable of doing. I mean..... He could have killed her, then raped her dead body, then told Reek to clean the mess up afterward.... I mean, that's something he'd probably be into to.
In Game of Thrones one must watch these awful scenes of brutality and say, "you know, it could have been worse"
Which would have resulted in Roose instantly having him executed, or starting a full blown Northern rebellion on them. If Ramsay managed to survive that he'd probably be brutally murdered by Littlefinger, provided he doesn't end up under assault by the Faith Militant.
Can't wait until Ramsay gets Joffrey'd worse than Joffrey did. Roose too. There's really nothing redeemable about the Boltons, is there?
Also, was so freaking excited for Dorne coming into this season. Such a shame.
Can't wait until Ramsay gets Joffrey'd worse than Joffrey did. Roose too. There's really nothing redeemable about the Boltons, is there?
Also, was so freaking excited for Dorne coming into this season. Such a shame.
Same, in addition to the Greyjoy's being cut off (apparently they have skipped that arc entirely), which is a shame since I enjoyed that it gave some further insights on them, which was much needed. Plus Victarion and Euron are great in them.
And I'm wondering if either Jamie or Bronn will replace Arys Oakheart's fate (but then again, considering how different the show is by now, I wouldn't be surprised if things end up completely different).
Jaime is one of my favorites, so gonna keep my fingers crossed, but I'm expecting the worst.
Same, in addition to the Greyjoy's being cut off (apparently they have skipped that arc entirely), which is a shame since I enjoyed that it gave some further insights on them, which was much needed. Plus Victarion and Euron are great in them.
And I'm wondering if either Jamie or Bronn will replace Arys Oakheart's fate (but then again, considering how different the show is by now, I wouldn't be surprised if things end up completely different).
Jaime is one of my favorites, so gonna keep my fingers crossed, but I'm expecting the worst.
I shudder to think how the Kingsmoot would have proceeded. With the way they handled the Sand Snakes, I wouldn't be surprised if the Greyjoy uncles would have been all Pirates of the Caribbean. Well, that's too hyperbolic but you get the point. The Iron Islands also have the advantage of us having visited them already and being established as a really dour setting.
They would have had to mention Asha's weird rescue attempt thingio from last season though. Plus, they really didn't make her strong or sympathetic of a character to serve as an anchor in the Iron Islands for viewers. Still, I don't think we can rule them out entirely.
As for Dorne. I understand that things are going to get cut from the book and expect it but the problem in the show goes beyond that. I mean, they miss all the emotional cues that the arc had. It would have been a bit tricky to translate the Doran/Arianne thing to Doran/Ellaria but not impossible. It feels rushed and silly. It was just all apparent in the Water Gardens scene from Jaime and Bronn just prancing in to the weird Sand Snakes mobilisation to the clumsy battle and the abrupt conclusion. It's all flash and no substance.
Oberyn provided the perfect intro to them last season and he was so good. His buildup, his character arc, everything. It doesn't feel like they're capitalising on it at all. I feel like we should have spent a lot more time with them than we have. There's the ever pressing concern of "what do we cut for that?" but it should have been a priority for this season.
I'm just gonna stop bitchin. For all I know, show viewers love what they're doing with the place and are content with Oberyn's cool daughters.
The show's Sand Snakes certainly aren't cool. They actually came off incompetent given both Bronn and Jaime live, Myrcella as well too.
The show's Sand Snakes certainly aren't cool. They actually came off incompetent given both Bronn and Jaime live, Myrcella as well too.
Missed the bit where the poison expert among them slashed Bron with her dagger, did you?
Bronn is toast. Killed in the worst fight ever filmed.
So here is one thing I don't get. In the early seasons when Cersei was queen she commanded the King's Guard all the time. Pretty sure that is how it works. The King and Queen commands them.
When the new Queen gets arrested, the King's Guard does nothing. And she doesn't even try to command them to help her. I dunno about everyone else, but that there was some pretty poor writing.
So here is one thing I don't get. In the early seasons when Cersei was queen she commanded the King's Guard all the time. Pretty sure that is how it works. The King and Queen commands them.
When the new Queen gets arrested, the King's Guard does nothing. And she doesn't even try to command them to help her. I dunno about everyone else, but that there was some pretty poor writing.
The Queen doesn't have the power to call for the Kingsguard or anyone else to help her if she's being taken in legally for trial purposes.
On top of that, Tommen is still young and slow to react. Had Joffrey been in that room he either would have had the Kingsguard kill everyone in the Faith Militant or Margaery herself. Reaction vs Lack thereof.
So here is one thing I don't get. In the early seasons when Cersei was queen she commanded the King's Guard all the time. Pretty sure that is how it works. The King and Queen commands them.
When the new Queen gets arrested, the King's Guard does nothing. And she doesn't even try to command them to help her. I dunno about everyone else, but that there was some pretty poor writing.
I think that was more because Meryn Trant is loyal to Cercei, hence why she was able to command them. And maybe out of fear for Tywin?
Remember that scene when Tywin enters the throne room because he was summoned by Joffrey and then the kingsguard try to follow him, but stop halfway because he simply looks at them.
The Queen doesn't have the power to call for the Kingsguard or anyone else to help her if she's being taken in legally for trial purposes.
On top of that, Tommen is still young and slow to react. Had Joffrey been in that room he either would have had the Kingsguard kill everyone in the Faith Militant or Margaery herself. Reaction vs Lack thereof.
If it had happened to Cersei when she was queen, do you think she would have ordered the King's Guards to do something about it? I bet you she would have. And I bet they would have listened. The King's Guards have been used for law-breaking all through the series.
It wasn't a legal arrest. Olly was Loras squire. His job entails that he has seen Loras naked more than once. He armours him, dresses him, probably tends wounds, and might even be washing the fellow. Him knowing Loras having a birthmark isn't evidence of anything, given his job.
And killing Ramsey?
It's odd to say what will happen. Will Theon come back and kill Ramsay? Will Brienne do it? Will Littlefinger do it? Stannis? Jon? Arya?
So here is one thing I don't get. In the early seasons when Cersei was queen she commanded the King's Guard all the time. Pretty sure that is how it works. The King and Queen commands them.
When the new Queen gets arrested, the King's Guard does nothing. And she doesn't even try to command them to help her. I dunno about everyone else, but that there was some pretty poor writing.
I don't believe the Queen generally has the ability to command the Guard. Cersei was in the unique position of being Queen Regent and I'm fairly sure that most of the KG are (or were) her stooges anyway. Particularly Trant. She mostly has/had Lannister guards surrounding her though. IIRC they were around during the infamous Littlefinger scene from seasons past. "Power is power," and all that.
SPEAKING OF CONTINUITY ISSUES THOUGH.
In the season where Dany gets control of The Unsullied, it is stated that they come equipped with both spears and also short swords for close contact. One of the Wise Masters uses said short sword to cut the nipple off one of The Unsullied.
When they get ambushed by The Sons of the Harpy (and essentially get beat down like chumps with the exception of Grey Worm) they're all fighting with their spears. Their short swords are nowhere to be seen.
That's my piece of retroactive bitchin.
Another thing is how regressive it is to put Sansa back in the position of victim.
Last season was a plus to see her as a player, not a pawn, and now, I feel they've gone back a bit by having her get raped by Ramsay.
I'm just gonna stop bitchin. For all I know, show viewers love what they're doing with the place and are content with Oberyn's cool daughters.
Yeah, as it has been raised right from Season 2; changes are understandable, but when it comes to such a high degree of deviation from the source material, one can't help but raise their eyebrows.
It is disappointing for sure, but I stopped trying to view GoT as a decent adaptation and more in what the show tries to do on itself with its new plotlines and see what it makes of them. I've already voiced my opinion on the lackluster portrayal of politics and warfare compared to the novels (which aren't as grandiose to begin with, as the internet likes to claim it is) so my interest in the franchise has wavered. Still enjoy it for what it is, but not as much as I used to.
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