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[Treacherous J Slither]

Aye, but the world needs a Targaryen or a Baratheon on the throne, rather than Tommen the bastard or worse, the Sparrow. Daenerys may be an idiot, but I think Barristan made his mark, and she may think back on what he taught her now that he's dead. If she takes back Jorah, he could give some good advice as well, Daario is a very sus guy, but I'd take him over those ****** snake Harpy advisors. Quathe might even be of use later (yeah, bet some of you forgot about her, eh?)

Where as Stannis is well poised to win the North, Bolton inspires through fear, which is very easy to break when Winterfell falls under Stannis' boot. The Umbers, Manderlys, Mormonts, Glovers and the Crannogs have the best chance of supporting him, if not the Starks or Jon Snow. With the North behind him, he'll have the largest kingdom under him, and should he find a way to kill Walder Frey and tear his castle apart, Edmure can rally the Riverlands to him. That is a very large if though, so at the moment, maybe Daenerys isn't the worst option.

Unless of course you fancy a boy king, religious fanatic or worst of all, Littlefinger on the throne.

Baelish would make a great king. The man is a brilliant. A master manipulator. Look at how much his power has grown throughout the series. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the Iron Throne after all is said and done.

[Fast Jimmy]

"A girl who can give him a run for his money in a fight,"

L0L But no.

More so than any other woman he's crossed path with, at least. He's not met Brienne of Tarth.

[HiroVoid]

More so than any other woman he's crossed path with, at least. He's not met Brienne of Tarth.

Well, there was his mother.

[Fast Jimmy]

Baelish would make a great king. The man is a brilliant. A master manipulator. Look at how much his power has grown throughout the series. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the Iron Throne after all is said and done.

Littlefinger can be blamed for 99% of the terrible things that have befallen the Seven Kingdoms, in all honesty. "Chaos is a ladder" and all that... and Littlefinger has been at the eye of the storm for all the chaos that has broken out. From killing Jon Aaryn to setting Ned on the trail of the incest of Cersei... his actions set the entire sequence of war, madness and murder from the books on its path.

If not for him, Jon Aaryn would have exposed Cersei and Robert would still be alive, with the kingdom intact. There wouldn't be a clear heir, true, but that's a small problem if the king is still alive. They would have succeeded in assassinating Dany and none of the chaos and destruction she unleashed would have been brought to bear... the books wouldn't have happened, essentially, if not for Littlefinger.

He's an excellent manipulator but there's much more to being a king than gaining more power. The kingdom is much worse off for him gaining more power and I doubt that would change when he obtained the ultimate height of it.

[Fast Jimmy]

Well, there was his mother.

[Han Shot First]

Littlefinger would make a terrible king. He is a first rate schemer, but he is the closest thing to the series' arch villain. As Fast Jimmy pointed out, he practically engineered the War of the Five Kings to enable his own rise. He'd probably be excellent at gaining and keeping that throne, but he'd have no concern for the well-being of the kingdom or his subjects. Littlefinger only cares about Littlefinger. That's a bad trait for a king to have if you're anyone but that king.

 

Of the King's Landing schemers Varys and Tyrion would probably have made the best kings, if their situations were different. Obviously being a eunuch or a dwarf automatically disqualifies them. Both however are adept at playing the game, intelligent, and have some concern for the well-being of the realm. 

[Treacherous J Slither]

Baelish seeks to not only gain power but to hold it. By doing well as Master of Coin he gained favor and position. By doing well as king he would be able to gain more power as well. I fail to see how Baelish as king will benefit from having his kingdom in turmoil. Other kingdoms yes but his own? No.

[Fast Jimmy]

Baelish seeks to not only gain power but to hold it. By doing well as Master of Coin he gained favor and position. By doing well as king he would be able to gain more power as well. I fail to see how Baelish as king will benefit from having his kingdom in turmoil. Other kingdoms yes but his own? No.

Whose favor would be stand to gain as King of one of the most might empires in the world?

His subjects? He seems to have little concern for them or their well-being, merely pawns and cattle to be used and disposed. Just look at how he treats any of his employees or servants.

The other nobles? Littlefinger does more to destroy his enemies than really elevate his allies. But when not at war or seeking to rise, it's more important for the realm for prosperity to occur. Remember that he was well liked a Master of Coin, but he also allowed the Seven Kingdoms to plunge into massive, crippling debt.

The other kingdoms? Bravos certainly hates the Iron Throne right now. As for the rest of the countries, they may as well be on a different planet aside from Dany. And Littlefinger is no military commander; he'd cripple under an attack by Dany's army if she could ever get it under control.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Whose favor would be stand to gain as King of one of the most might empires in the world?

His subjects? He seems to have little concern for them or their well-being, merely pawns and cattle to be used and disposed. Just look at how he treats any of his employees or servants.

The other nobles? Littlefinger does more to destroy his enemies than really elevate his allies. But when not at war or seeking to rise, it's more important for the realm for prosperity to occur. Remember that he was well liked a Master of Coin, but he also allowed the Seven Kingdoms to plunge into massive, crippling debt.

The other kingdoms? Bravos certainly hates the Iron Throne right now. As for the rest of the countries, they may as well be on a different planet aside from Dany. And Littlefinger is no military commander; he'd cripple under an attack by Dany's army if she could ever get it under control.

He would win over the country in an attempt to secure his position. He may only care about himself but he would be torn from power if the country hates him so a man as smart as him realizes that he must play the role of benevolent ruler. Upfront anyway.

He can attempt to win over foreign powers with his usual scheming or weaken them for takeover.

The Master of Coin is not a governor or anyone with any real power. If the king wants something he can't afford and LF is ordered to "find a way" then he finds one. The foolish actions of the powerful led to the current financial state.

From a ridiculously minor lord to all the power he currently possesses shows me that this man is a master of the Game.

The Game Of Thrones.

Who else has come so far? Achieved so much? Manipulated so many?

[Rawgrim]

He would be a bad king because he ignores the real threat to the kingdom. Stannis is the only one who doesn't.

[Fast Jimmy]

He would win over the country in an attempt to secure his position. He may only care about himself but he would be torn from power if the country hates him so a man as smart as him realizes that he must play the role of benevolent ruler. Upfront anyway.

He can attempt to win over foreign powers with his usual scheming or weaken them for takeover.

The Master of Coin is not a governor or anyone with any real power. If the king wants something he can't afford and LF is ordered to "find a way" then he finds one. The foolish actions of the powerful led to the current financial state.

From a ridiculously minor lord to all the power he currently possesses shows me that this man is a master of the Game.

The Game Of Thrones.

Who else has come so far? Achieved so much? Manipulated so many?

The Game of Thrones is a political one. The threats facing the world right now are military. And Littlefinger can't con his way out of them.

He would be a bad king because he ignores the real threat to the kingdom. Stannis is the only one who doesn't.

This too. I doubt Littlefinger is even aware of the Whitewalker rumors/threat. Let alone would believe it. Further let alone that he would have any possible means of combating it.

[Treacherous J Slither]

He would be a bad king because he ignores the real threat to the kingdom. Stannis is the only one who doesn't.

What does anyone know of this threat? There are Watchmen who only view the Freefolk as the threat. How many of these guys has ever even seen a white walker with their own eyes? Not many. Most people in Westeros view it as a fairy tale or a horrible event that happened so long ago that it doesn't matter any more. Duty at the Wall is seen as a punishment. A chore. A position in which you freeze your butt off and fight bandits. Only those in the know regard the honor in the position as more than a faded memory.

Baelish simply needs to be brought up to speed by being provided enough proof to get him motivated. This goes for the rest of Westeros as well.

Baelish hasn't been shown to be a brilliant military commander but he also hasn't been shown to not be one either. For all we know he could outperform Tywin himself. Doesn't really matter anyway because the leader of the country has military commanders that do that stuff for him. Obviously.

[Treacherous J Slither]

The Game of Thrones is a political one. The threats facing the world right now are military. And Littlefinger can't con his way out of them.


This too. I doubt Littlefinger is even aware of the Whitewalker rumors/threat. Let alone would believe it. Further let alone that he would have any possible means of combating it.

Who has the means of combating it? How many people even know about dragonglass let alone have any in their possession?

The only reason why Westeros isn't a lifeless frozen wasteland is the magic left in the Wall that's holding them at bay. Without it Westeros would fall in less than a month.

[Billy-the-Squid]

The show is a real mixed bag now, some scenes which were added to the show ie: everything with Tywin Lannister were good. But, that's probably as much to do with Charles Dance's portrayal of Tywin as it it is the writing of his scenes.

Recently I'm watching certain parts and thinking, why the **** should I care about this bit? Why is this important? Why are you showing me so much of these characters, they're a dead end and their story goes no where nor does it move the plot forward.

Shame really, it had potential.

[Fast Jimmy]

Who has the means of combating it? How many people even know about dragonglass let alone have any in their possession?

The only reason why Westeros isn't a lifeless frozen wasteland is the magic left in the Wall that's holding them at bay. Without it Westeros would fall in less than a month.

No disagreement, but Littlefinger's destructive antics have turned it from "we need to let the world know what's happening and reinforce the wall" to "wait, there's another war going on? Why didn't anyone tell us about it?"

It's not even a blip on anyone's radar because the storm Littlefinger kicked up by trying to steal The Vale and, inadvertently, starting a massive Civil War.

[AlanC9]

Littlefinger would make a terrible king. He is a first rate schemer, but he is the closest thing to the series' arch villain. As Fast Jimmy pointed out, he practically engineered the War of the Five Kings to enable his own rise. He'd probably be excellent at gaining and keeping that throne, but he'd have no concern for the well-being of the kingdom or his subjects. Littlefinger only cares about Littlefinger. That's a bad trait for a king to have if you're anyone but that king.

I dunno. A straight-up Machiavellian isn't necessarily a bad ruler, if he's smart enough about his own best interests. Littlefinger will do plenty of damage on the way up because the collateral damage isn't his problem, but if he ever was in charge that would change.

Whether he has the right skillset for the coming challenges is a different question.

[Fast Jimmy]

Doesn't really matter anyway because the leader of the country has military commanders that do that stuff for him. Obviously.

Brilliant, battle-hardened commanders like Ned Stark, Barristan Selmy, Tywin Lannister? Amazing warriors like Sandor Clegane, Jaime Lannister, Oberron Martell?

That's the thing about war... your best people die or are rendered incapable.

[Il Divo]

He would be a bad king because he ignores the real threat to the kingdom. Stannis is the only one who doesn't.

 

While I think Littlefinger might make for a terrible King, I can't say the White Walkers are the cause for that. As their threat hasn't been encountered for thousands of years, I don't really blame any of the Kings for ignoring the Night's Watch warnings about their danger to focus on their succession at this point. 

[Il Divo]

I dunno. A straight-up Machiavellian isn't necessarily a bad ruler, if he's smart enough about his own best interests. Littlefinger will do plenty of damage on the way up because the collateral damage isn't his problem, but if he ever was in charge that would change.

Whether he has the right skillset for the coming challenges is a different question.

 

 

I think the problem comes down to how much damage actually has to be done just to set himself on the Throne. As Varys says, he would see this Kingdom burn if he could be lord of the ashes. 

 

I suspect if given the Kingdom under prosperous conditions, Littlefinger could be very effective as a leader, but I think the point is that his goal isn't really built for long term stability in any capacity. 

[Treacherous J Slither]

Brilliant, battle-hardened commanders like Ned Stark, Barristan Selmy, Tywin Lannister? Amazing warriors like Sandor Clegane, Jaime Lannister, Oberron Martell?

That's the thing about war... your best people die or are rendered incapable.

OR they survive and win the war.

[Fast Jimmy]

OR they survive and win the war.

All the people I mentioned are dead, minus Jaime. Who has become a sub-par fighter without his hand.

[Wulfram]

Littlefinger is far better suited to ruling from behind the throne than sitting on it.  A king shouldn't seem like a backstabbing slimeball, even if they are one.

[Treacherous J Slither]

All the people I mentioned are dead, minus Jaime. Who has become a sub-par fighter without his hand.

I know they're dead but they weren't the only fighters/leaders in the land.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Littlefinger is far better suited to ruling from behind the throne than sitting on it. A king shouldn't seem like a backstabbing slimeball, even if they are one.

That's even better! If things ever go sideways the puppet can take the fall and Baelish can continue to operate lol!