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[Maria13]

So agreed they both rocked. There's nothing more macho than brave. I also liked they way they built up ser Barris, it's not often you get to see an older dude in an action role, a role based on valour and nobility, and he carried it off very well...

[WidowMaker9394]

What a great episode. Dany's actor is incredibly beautiful.

[Seagloom]

My favorite part of Syrio's scene is his death was not shown on screen. When I first passed that part of the novel I started hoping beyond hope we will see Syrio again before story's end. Seeing GoT mimic that bit gave me a bit more.

[AshedMan]

Seagloom wrote...

My favorite part of Syrio's scene is his death was not shown on screen. When I first passed that part of the novel I started hoping beyond hope we will see Syrio again before story's end. Seeing GoT mimic that bit gave me a bit more.

What a terrible spoiler.    I was holding out so much hope to see him again.  The First Sword of Bravos was a great character.

Modifié par AshedMan, 08 juin 2011 - 02:14 .

[Seagloom]

I probably should not have used the word death. Death is what can be inferred, but in truth we have no proof. We hear no screams or hear any words that suggest he actually died. That is why I hold out hope he might return in some capacity before the story concludes. I agree Syrio was a great character, and in my opinion the most skilled swordsman shown in GRRM's world to date.

My apologies if that was a spoiler. I figured everyone participating here saw episode eight by now.

Modifié par Seagloom, 08 juin 2011 - 02:20 .

[LTD]

I can't even begin to imagine how frustrating it must be for anyone who hasn't read the books to try and talk about the HBO series on net;p At least half of the people you ever speak with here have read the books and keenly forget you haven't. I bet I spoil something unintentionally every 2nd msg or something. My thoughts and prayers are with you:O

Did anyone else think there was certain lack of brutality in Syrio's fight scene? Instead of bleeding eye sockets and broken throats we get this..this fatherly Disney-wacking.

Modifié par LTD, 08 juin 2011 - 02:48 .

[Addai]

Seagloom wrote...

I probably should not have used the word death. Death is what can be inferred, but in truth we have no proof. We hear no screams or hear any words that suggest he actually died. That is why I hold out hope he might return in some capacity before the story concludes. I agree Syrio was a great character, and in my opinion the most skilled swordsman shown in GRRM's world to date.

My apologies if that was a spoiler. I figured everyone participating here saw episode eight by now.

The series is making me re-think certain things from the book, and this is one of them.  I'm now convinced that Syrio lived and we'll see him again.  It would just be awesome if he showed up saying "I told you Arya child, 'not today.'"  Hopefully this is not wishful thinking!

[LTD]

Addai67 wrote...

"I told you Arya child, 'not today.'"  Hopefully this is not wishful thinking!

Speaking of " Not Today"
Did the book version have the phrase escape from lips of Syrio and Varys both? At least I have completely missed this on both read throughs. Wonder what the implications are:O If any. Maybe it's just them both worshipping  God of death.

Haha, surprisingly enough I'm all exited about what will happen in last two episodes. I keep wondering if they remain more or less 1:1 loyal to books or end up changing something major. It's not entirely unconceivable to think production team would want to go in some..entirely different direction with Dany and Drogo. Guess we haven't seen anything yet that would suggest any drastic changes a-comin but hay.

Modifié par LTD, 08 juin 2011 - 03:10 .

[Brockololly]

Addai67 wrote...

Seagloom wrote...

I probably should not have used the word death. Death is what can be inferred, but in truth we have no proof. We hear no screams or hear any words that suggest he actually died. That is why I hold out hope he might return in some capacity before the story concludes. I agree Syrio was a great character, and in my opinion the most skilled swordsman shown in GRRM's world to date.

My apologies if that was a spoiler. I figured everyone participating here saw episode eight by now.

The series is making me re-think certain things from the book, and this is one of them.  I'm now convinced that Syrio lived and we'll see him again.  It would just be awesome if he showed up saying "I told you Arya child, 'not today.'"  Hopefully this is not wishful thinking!

Yeah, having read A Clash of Kings not too long ago, there is the one theory out there that ...


Clash of Kings SPOILER









Jaqen H'ghar = Syrio
I'm about half way through A Storm of Swords now so I don't know if that gets any further evidence, but I was thinking Jaqen had some similarities to Syrio in terms of how he talks and so forth.

Modifié par Brockololly, 08 juin 2011 - 02:56 .

[Seagloom]

LTD wrote...

Did anyone else think there was certain lack of brutality in Syrio's fight scene? Instead of bleeding eye sockets and broken throats we get this..this fatherly Disney-wacking.

That was what a friend told me. In his opinion it made Syrio seem less capable than in the novel. Especially since his sword was smashed by the Kingsguard before he got a neck stab in. Instead of expert lethal stabbing, we got him bowling them over. I thought it worked to show how his nimble swordplay was so badass, but I can see how it also hurts it.

[Druss99]

The Syrio fight scene was my favourite part of the series so far it was graceful yet brutal despite the lack of bloodshed. I also noticed that Arya forgot her wooden sword as she fled, in the book I thought it played a big part in the ending of GoT and the beginning of A Clash of Kings.

A question about the books, are they loaded with spelling mistakes and strange errors? I have the Kindle editions of the first two books and they are packed with them. Every few pages there seems to be strange errors like letters being replaced by letters that look similar, Miri Maz Dur switched between Miri and Mini a few times leaving me somewhat confused. Often rr will be replaced by m. It gets a bit confusing at times. Just wondering if its a Kindle thing or is it carried over from the books?

[Seagloom]

I'm still rereading GoT. So far I've noticed zero errors. I don't recall the other books being rife with them either. Probably a Kindle thing.

[Maria13]

I think it's a Kindle thing. I've got both hard copies and Kindle versions Miri=Mini I think must be a misreading of an OCR doc (i.e. bad scanning)...

Modifié par Maria13, 08 juin 2011 - 03:22 .

[Addai]

I thought the Syrio fight scene was brutal enough. You saw blood flying when he hit the first guy in the face. Booyah!

What I find odd is that they are very forward in some of the scenes like the sexposition, but the scene where the Dorthraki are raiding was much tamer than how I pictured it in the book. Not that I'm complaining they should be more brutal, it just seems weird to me.

[Catspaw]

Watched it tonight on my satellite service and, once again, Orbit blocked out the male nudity. It looked really funny with the scene zoomed in so that Hodor's dangly bits didn't show. You couldn't tell what Osha was really looking at. They do allow the female nudity, though. Double standard!

[gastovski]

Catspaw wrote...

Watched it tonight on my satellite service and, once again, Orbit blocked out the male nudity. It looked really funny with the scene zoomed in so that Hodor's dangly bits didn't show. You couldn't tell what Osha was really looking at. They do allow the female nudity, though. Double standard!

That's because men's things are precious.

[Dreadstruck]

Brockololly wrote...
Clash of the Kings spoiler

Even more spoilers








Srlsy, don't read it if you're not done with teh books.




Jaqen is a member of the Faceless Men assassin guild which means he can change his appearance at any time. Wouldn't surprise me if Syrio was one of his older alter-ego=]

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 08 juin 2011 - 07:28 .

[naughty99]

So who's ready to pick up the 1,500 page A DANCE WITH DRAGONS on July 12?

Anybody pre-ordered?

I read all the previous books on Kindle for iPhone, but I think I want to buy the hardcopy of this one.

[Addai]

Now that I think about it, it's kind of weird that Ned comes up with Syrio out of the blue anyway. What's their connection?

I did pre-order ADWD, though I set it to use amazon.com's free shipping which takes longer to ship, and I might have to change that. I'm not going to be able to wait!

[TJPags]

Syrio kicks arse, in the series and in the books. I agree ther book scene was a bit bloodier, but it demonstrated his ability either way.

Brock - I have the same thought as you, and have for a while . . . .I found the sudden connection a bit . . .convenient?

As to ADWD - I love this series, I really do. I haven't pre-ordered the book, though. And I won't. I also won't purchase it until it's available in MMP. Yes, it's biting my own nose off to spite my face, but it's my little protest against GRRM glacial writing pace, and his lack of concern about it.

[Seagloom]

I have not preordered ADwD. I may do that or I may order it the day before. I want to wait until I can order other items along with it.

I never considered a connection between Syrio and Jaqen. Interesting. I think I would prefer that were not the case; but if it was I could accept it. I wondered about where Ned found Syrio too. It did seem weird a former First Sword of Braavos was just hanging about King's Landing and willing to take on a student. I always figured GRRM would explain it later. He never did.

[AshedMan]

Seagloom wrote...

I probably should not have used the word death. Death is what can be inferred, but in truth we have no proof. We hear no screams or hear any words that suggest he actually died. That is why I hold out hope he might return in some capacity before the story concludes. I agree Syrio was a great character, and in my opinion the most skilled swordsman shown in GRRM's world to date.

My apologies if that was a spoiler. I figured everyone participating here saw episode eight by now.

I have seen episode 8, but I have not read the books.  Maybe I misinterpretted what you wrote.  I thought you were saying that he died (through knowledge from having read the book).  But it sounds like the book never touches on him again in what's currently published, not that it actually outlined his death.  So I can still hope he'll be alive!  

[Addai]

Yes, you can still hope he's alive. People don't stay dead in this series, even if they are. I'm not naming any names. trololol

Modifié par Addai67, 09 juin 2011 - 02:14 .

[GodWood]

Addai67 wrote...
The series is making me re-think certain things from the book, and this is one of them.  I'm now convinced that Syrio lived and we'll see him again.  It would just be awesome if he showed up saying "I told you Arya child, 'not today.'"  Hopefully this is not wishful thinking!

I personally would hate it.
As much as I loved Syrio's character bringing him back 4 books later would just feel like bad fan-fiction.

What I love about ASoIaF is how cynical the setting is and how any character can get killed off at any time.
Having too many characters 'return from the dead' would just cheapen the setting for me.

EDIT: Oh and the Syrio = Jaqen theory was put to rest in A Feast for Crows as it confirmed Jaqen was already in the black cells before Syrio’s confrontation with Meryn Trant.

Modifié par GodWood, 09 juin 2011 - 07:41 .

[Darklaguna]

Come on, People. Why do you think did they made Syrio say that there was only one God,Death?
Ok,it might sound cool...but they knew what people who read the books would think.

Spoilers
The faceless men are the only ones who see Death as a God.