If Stannis loses at Winterfell he is dead and can't burn Shireen. If he wins at Winterfell he doesn't need to burn Shireen. Simple as that.
If Stannis dies at Winterfell, his standing orders are to have Shireen put on the Iron Throne as the last living Baratheon
Not that I'm aware of, but he did beat a guy with a Nodachi with a bokken he carved out of a boat oar.
That's his most notable accomplishment.
I read that bit on the wikipedia page. If I remember right though that was "according to legend", if an extremely bad ass one.
I read that bit on the wikipedia page. If I remember right though that was "according to legend".
It was a long time ago.
There's a certain point in history where information is not 100% Reliable.
But at least I was able to find something.
If Stannis dies at Winterfell, his standing orders are to have Shireen put on the Iron Throne as the last living Baratheon
Gendry's my new candidate for the Iron Throne.
Gendry's my new candidate for the Iron Throne.
Problem is he's a Storm, not a Baratheon.
Though I guess at this point he's got as much claim as anyone else, if not the power to back it up.
If Stannis dies at Winterfell, his standing orders are to have Shireen put on the Iron Throne as the last living Baratheon
Definitely in a sample chapter released already, so the plans for Stannis to go insane and make his House go extinct aren't really there.
So got the chance to watch the last episode and that final episode was approprialy disappointing to a very disappointing season.
Well, just watched the last episode of season 5, and after that season, I don't really care about the rest of the series. I'll probably watch the rest, someday, but if not, it won't bother me.
I have to admit, I'd mark out if a bumbling Mace appears next season and is just casually singing to the High Sparrow before finishing of with a "Kill them all" and having a host of Tyrell soldiers just lambast The Sparrows.
Also, season would have been instantly GOAT if it cut to Gendry casually rowing by as the Martells were farewelling the Lannisters.
Anyone up for high sparrow dying during the trial of Loras and Margery in most horrific way?
I'm all for the High Sparrow eventually getting his comeuppance, but I'll always root for him against Cersei. Lena Headey has been amazing this season, but her acting ability isn't enough to get me to sympathize with Cersei. She's one of the most vile players in the game, and she'd have to be be up against the Boltons or the Freys to get me to root for her.
"Shock value" is the reason you are looking for.
Part of me starts to wonder if it was always going to turn out like this. Because every episode they said they to look forward to doing beforehand were the shocking episodes. In fact I think they said the Red Wedding was one of the reasons they wanted to do the show in the first place.
Problem is he's a Storm, not a Baratheon.
Though I guess at this point he's got as much claim as anyone else, if not the power to back it up.
I thought he was a Waters.
I thought he was a Waters.
Yeah I was thinking of Edric. Gendry would be a "Waters" though I don't think he uses a surname at all.
I'm all for the High Sparrow eventually getting his comeuppance, but I'll always root for him against Cersei. Lena Headey has been amazing this season, but her acting ability isn't enough to get me to sympathize with Cersei. She's one of the most vile players in the game, and she'd have to be be up against the Boltons or the Freys to get me to root for her.
Oh, she's one of my favorites! I'd love for her to turn the tables and get her promised revenge against that septa too.
But then again I also root for the Underwoods in House of Cards.
I know I'm a bad person.
I think she'll get some kind of payback against them. She won't end well, but neither will they.
Bran wargs into Robert Strong. Throttles Cersei. Prophecy fulfilled.
Well after that I don't really care who ends up on the Iron Throne or what happens to anybody left in the show. This season has been the most disappointing in the shows history.
They've either killed or crippled every interesting character in the show and we are left with a group of people who are either wet blankets or so evil to be extremely Cliche. The only pair left in the show that I have any interest in is Tyrion and Varys and they will probably either turn them into mindless puppets (Arya/Sansa) with absolutely no charisma or kill them off(The Hound/Oberyn/who died tonight).
Meh I'll probably watch next season anyway but not that bothered about the characters that are winning through.
Yeah I was thinking of Edric. Gendry would be a "Waters" though I don't think he uses a surname at all.
Yeah, only formally recognised bastards get a surname.
IIRC Robert only formally recognised two of his many, many bastards. Edric Storm (conceived during Stannis' wedding on Stannis' bed with Stannis' sister-in-law) and Mya Stone (conceived during Robert's stay at Eyrie when he was still a teenager).
You know, If I had to use a bastard surname then I'd want "Storm" because it sounds badass. If I'd be nothing and have nothing else in life then at least my name would sound metal.
Bran wargs into Robert Strong. Throttles Cersei. Prophecy fulfilled.
Can Bran warg into Robert Strong? I mean, no head.
What exactly were the Dothraki doing with Daenerys?
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I'm all for the High Sparrow eventually getting his comeuppance, but I'll always root for him against Cersei. Lena Headey has been amazing this season, but her acting ability isn't enough to get me to sympathize with Cersei. She's one of the most vile players in the game, and she'd have to be be up against the Boltons or the Freys to get me to root for her.
See, I've always kinda sympathized with Cersei. Her dad was a jerk. She was so screwed up in the head from him and the death of her mom that she fell in love with her own brother, while vehemently hating her other brother. She had two nice kids but one nasty one and at one point he was King over her, making threats against her. She was basically told from the time she was little that she'll be nothing more than a princess married off to some a-hole king or another - that she is not allowed to actually rule. Though if you think about it, she would have made a far better ruler than the mad king, Robert, Joffrey, or Tommen.
It's funny how a few characters are like, "Oh Tyrion you would be the perfect ruler!" All the while I wonder if Cersei would be better than him since she has more self control. I mean, Tyrion's tendencies kinda remind me of Robert's. Both are pretty indulgent drunks. Cersei isn't really like that.
She also never struck me as a person who favored cruelty like Joffrey did. On more than one occasion she chastised him for being so irrationally cruel - telling him that it won't help him as a king. She wasn't even happy that Joffrey chose to behead Ned Stark. Remember? That upset Cersei in the moment. Countering that, she isn't a giant baby/pushover like Tommen - acting all weird and hipster-Ghandi about the out of control religious fanatics. Didn't even lift a finger to save his own (hot) wife! Nevermind his mom! ha. And she's really not like Jamie. He's fairly self centered, I would say. Cersei rarely thinks of herself, if you think about it. My god, she endured starvation and thirst so as to not de-legitimize Tommen's claim to the throne. She even walked naked through a crowd of people throwing poop at her. She wasn't about to admit to her affair with Jamie, and that wasn't to protect herself. She was already in a position of pain and suffering. She was protecting her family name. I am pretty sure Cersei would endure torture and death if it meant protecting the family name. As a ruler, she would presumably feel the same about the kingdom that should come under her own legacy, since all the citizens beneath her would become her proverbial "children." (I'm not saying she'd suffer and die for them, but there would be a certain degree of their pride connected to it all that she would fight to maintain. It's an insult to be a shitty ruler and have the people despise you. But she's never been given the chance to rule, so all the hate aimed at her was spawned by Robert and Joffrey.)
Now her daughter is dead. A girl who didn't do anything to anyone. Not once. The people (previously ruled by Robert and Joffrey) just showered Cersei's naked body in human filth. All their pent up rage was totally the fault of her dead husband and dead son. Her current son is on the throne but he's useless - and he's married to a woman who hates Cersei. (Not that Margaery is without good reason to hate Cersei. But still - that really sucks when you add it all up.) And now it looks like Cersei's only friends in the world are a crazy doctor and a giant zombie. I mean, seriously. Those are her only friends. Jamie is coming back, but is he really her friend or is he just super horny for his sister? I dunno. He's a questionable guy.
So, yeah. I always felt bad for Cersei. I'm not saying she's 100% sympathetic. She's a total b*tch most of the time. But everytime she's a b*tch, she always has a solid reason. It's never completely out of left field, irrational, or uncalled for. The woman has seen some sh*t. (no pun, regarding season finale)
What exactly were the Dothraki doing with Daenerys?
"Whose this weirdo who keeps calling herself Khaleesi?"
Cersei and Jaime started shacking up while their mother was still alive so it had nothing to do with her father being a jerk or her mother's death.
I think it's perfectly illustrative of Cersei's narcissism although that whole aspect is somewhat changed in the show so who knows now.
As for Tyrion V. Cersei in terms of being rulers/in power. You only need to look at how effective Tyrion was during his time in power to how Cersei completely ******* up when she took her reigns. Cersei almost immediately empowered a fanatical religious group just to take down some of her rivals (and absolve the crown of its debt to The Faith in the books but that aspect isn't touched on in the show) while being too dense to realise that the pendulum is as likely to swing right back her.
I certainly agree that she's worthy of some sympathy and has gone through some terrible ****. That walk was brutal and demonstrative of the worst that pack mentality can produce. To make out like she's this misunderstood little cherub who actually really cares about everything a lot is completely misconstruing things though. Particularly that point about her loving all the people like her children should she come into total power which is just so not Cersei, lol.
Can Bran warg into Robert Strong? I mean, no head.
Good question. He does have a head on the show, though. Dead dwarf head.
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