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[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I haven't heard it talked about much, so on a more positive note...I am so glad the Tyrion/Varys duo is back together for season 6. 

 

I could watch those two banter for hours. 

[Addai]

The man that has the best chance against the White Walkers is one who equips their army with dragon glass when going north of the wall instead of leaving it thousands of miles away on his island kingdom.

Where did they get that dragonglass and the ships to carry it north?

[Dark Helmet]

Where did they get that dragonglass and the ships to carry it north?

 

Dragonstone has a **** tonne of Dragonglass. Presumably the ships would have been hired with dat sweet sweet Iron Bank money.

[Addai]

Let me pose you a question... if GRR has decreed that Stannis loses the battle for Winterfell and dies in the process, would you rather have it be by the genius of Roose and Ramsey, or Stannis blindly pursuing his goal, his duty, to the point of fault, which is more true to his character, in both the show and the book?

If Stannis is doomed to fail and die, how would you wish it to happen in the books?

Preferably with Stannis showing common sense, let alone the skill of an experienced military commander.
 
It is unlikely that Stannis would lose at Winterfell in even close to the manner depicted in the show. He's got mountain clans and several northern houses in his entourage, Manderley creating havoc inside Winterfell, and there haven't been desertions or demoralization on anywhere near the scale. Plus I sincerely hope GRRM isn't going to asspull that amount of cavalry out of nowhere.

Dragonstone has a **** tonne of Dragonglass. Presumably the ships would have been hired with dat sweet sweet Iron Bank money.

They're Stannis' fleet, is the point. I was responding to the suggestion that Jon is the one addressing the white walker problem, not Stannis.

[Dark Helmet]

 Plus I sincerely hope GRRM isn't going to asspull that amount of cavalry out of nowhere.
 

 

Nah see in the Show It's Ramsay and his 5000 Good Cavalrymen.

 

In the book they will be Roose's 5000 Good Cavalrymen!

 

Muahahaha!

[Br3admax]

Nah, Stannis drawing his sword, saying "Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more!" while letting his troops be surrounded is completely tactically sound. 

[Dark Helmet]

Nah, Stannis drawing his sword, saying "Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more!" while letting his troops be surrounded is completely tactically sound. 

 

Stannis was too used to having his retinues son. Didn't adapt when the Northern Homeland attrition kicked in...

 

A shame too. He was only a few techpoints away from getting the next level of military organization.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

So I'm guessing Rickon (wait who?) might finally return next season. Apparently his actor (who looks way grown up now, holy) said something about 'projects this summer' which would fit seeing as season 6 apparently starts filming this summer as well...would be nice if they didn't just forget about him...

[Dark Helmet]

So I'm guessing Rickon (wait who?) might finally return next season. Apparently his actor (who looks way grown up now, holy) said something about 'projects this summer' which would fit seeing as season 6 apparently starts filming this summer as well...would be nice if they didn't just forget about him...

 

Rickon: I've returned to claim m*gurk!*

 

Ramsay: Stark Please, I am a God! how can you hope to challenge me?!

[Il Divo]

So I'm guessing Rickon (wait who?) might finally return next season. Apparently his actor (who looks way grown up now, holy) said something about 'projects this summer' which would fit seeing as season 6 apparently starts filming this summer as well...would be nice if they didn't just forget about him...

 

Isn't it possible they could just recast him, aka Tommen/Myrcella? I never really got the impression that their casting choice of Rickon Stark was made with the long haul in mind. 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Rickon: I've returned to claim m*gurk!*

 

Ramsay: Stark Please, I am a God! how can you hope to challenge me?!

 

The north rallying around Rickon, who after years and years of irrelevance becomes a badass, is basically my dream, but that would require the Lord of Light's chosen based Ramsay to be cast down. It is a vain hope isn't it. ;_;

 

Isn't it possible they could just recast him, aka Tommen/Myrcella? I never really got the impression that their casting choice of Rickon Stark was made with the long haul in mind. 

 

Possibly, though it'd seem like a bit of an odd choice to me, as he was actually pretty good as far as child actors go; take his final scene with Bran for instance, and it's been quite some time since Rickon has been around so he would have aged appropriately. 

[AlanC9]

It was downright disappointing and more one-sided than the Boltons could have ever hoped for. Book Stannis appears a bit more competent at keeping his army intact than show Stannis was.

Was it actually that one-sided? We didn't see much of the battle.

I'll lay down another bet here. Bolton forces have suffered serious losses in the battle. Which, of course, will lead to the inevitable victory of.... yeah , you know who.

[Dark Helmet]

The north rallying around Rickon, who after years and years of irrelevance becomes a badass, is basically my dream, but that would require the Lord of Light's chosen based Ramsay to be cast down. It is a vain hope isn't it. ;_;

 

 

 

 

After seducing the Night's King and flaying all of his minions and Wights Ramsay ascends to the heavens. To flay the Angels.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I actually used to really enjoy Ramsay as a villain, but he's getting so ridiculous now.

 

I also feel he's taking focus away from his father, who frankly is the much more terrifying of the two Boltons and he doesn't even have to try.

 

[Il Divo]

Was it actually that one-sided? We didn't see much of the battle.

I'll lay down another bet here. Bolton forces have suffered serious losses in the battle. Which, of course, will lead to the inevitable victory of.... yeah , you know who.

 

 

See I would have said the opposite and (based on the episode director's comments) that at least seemed to be the authorial intent, for what it's worth. The base idea was that Stannis' army (what's left of it) was so utterly demoralized by this point via Shireen, Selyse, Desertion, the Blizzard, and Melisandre's departure, that it was essentially suicide via cavalry, which they kinda view Stannis as being completely aware of. 

[Il Divo]

I actually used to really enjoy Ramsay as a villain, but he's getting so ridiculous now.

 

I also feel he's taking focus away from his father, who frankly is the much more terrifying of the two Boltons and he doesn't even have to try.

 

 

Am I the only one who thinks Roose's actor would make a fantastic James Bond? 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Am I the only one who thinks Roose's actor would make a fantastic James Bond? 

 

I'd see him as more of James Bond villain really. He's got the perfect demeanor for it.

 

Great actor in any event. 

[Br3admax]

I actually used to really enjoy Ramsay as a villain, but he's getting so ridiculous now.

 

I also feel he's taking focus away from his father, who frankly is the much more terrifying of the two Boltons and he doesn't even have to try.

 

Nah, man. Ramsay is the better Roose. Cold, calculating, cunning, that smexy stubble, the son he always wanted. Not like that other one that had that tragic accident. 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Nah, man. Ramsay is the better Roose. Cold, calculating, cunning, that smexy stubble, the son he always wanted. Not like that other one that had that tragic accident. 

 

Yes, but Roose is legitimately Putin.

 

[Andraste Take the Wheel]

I'm glad Kevan apparently returned to King's Landing

 

I hope we see more of him calling out Cersei for the incompetent dimwit she is 

[Fast Jimmy]

So, like, what's Margery up to? Is no one concerned that the real queen is still totally imprisoned?

[Joseph Warrick]

Since Jon might get resurrected by Mel I'm interested in learning how resurrected people change. Zombie Catelyn doesn't seem to care about her remaining family as much as carrying out her vengeance. Dondarrion doesn't change much. He says pieces of him are gone but for the most part he's not a murderous zombie. Now how will Jon come back? It doesn't make sense for Jon to go back to being lord commander as if nothing had happened.

 

The show has omitted zombie Catelyn so maybe they're going to mix her together with Jon to create zombie Jon or Lord Stoneheart. Interested only in vengeance, he conspires to let the white walkers through the wall just to screw the watch over.

[Il Divo]

From a personality stand point, I'm not expecting a massive shift. Zombie Catelyn/Gregor had a bit more unique circumstances (one can't talk, the other is well, a zombie). Our best comparison as you say is Beric, but I kinda got the impression his problem was due to frequent revivals rather than it just happening the one time. 

[God]

The debate with Stannis really depends on if you feel the ends justify the means, or if the means should represent the end.

 

I personally never liked the idea of him winning the game. The people of Westoros would hurt more for it than benefit from it.

 

Personally, I'm far and away into the End Justifies the Means territory. 

 

I'm not really into what the people of Westeros benefit or suffer from. I'm more interested in what the people with power do. Then again, I am a believer, as much in real life as the show, that the lions and stags and dragons and wolves shouldn't concern themselves with the concerns or opinions of the sheep. A good leader is aware of their plight and works to solve it. A good leader does not exist to serve it however. 

[God]

See I would have said the opposite and (based on the episode director's comments) that at least seemed to be the authorial intent, for what it's worth. The base idea was that Stannis' army (what's left of it) was so utterly demoralized by this point via Shireen, Selyse, Desertion, the Blizzard, and Melisandre's departure, that it was essentially suicide via cavalry, which they kinda view Stannis as being completely aware of. 

 

Yeah, the director for the episode (while still not outright admitting that Stannis was dead) said that Stannis knew it was hopeless and was essentially planning on going out in a blaze of glory. He had lost everything, and had nothing to live for.

 

That said, there still has been no 100% confirmation that he is dead. The director and Dan Weiss are saying things like 'he lost, he's ready to die, he is in the suicidal frame of mind, etc.' but they have not said at all that he is actually dead.