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[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Spoilers: This is how GoT will end.

Ramsay joins up with the White Walkers until Dany comes through riding three Dragons stacked on top of each other. Ramsay is so enthralled by Dany that he and his elite bodyguard that's famed to be more fearsome than the Kingsguard (The Twenty Good Men) defect and join Dany's side before she burns all the Others to a crisp. In the aftermath, Ramsay shows his loyalty to his new Queen by cutting the throats of Euron Crow's Eye who just happened to be taking a walk near by. As the North celebrate their new saviour, Davos comes back with Rickon "Who?" Stark and both kneel to the Queen.

Together, they travel south to liberate the imprisoned Tyrells and kick the ass of the High Sparrow. Cersei calls Dany a ****** and gets roasted by Drogon as Loras tips his fedora and becomes Dany's literal White Knight, falling in love with her and turning straight in the process. He meets Jorah in some tavern at KL and the two of them get drunk debating among themselves who can better repress themselves sexually around Dany. Margaery smirks at Dany and the two become best friends.

For delivering Dany the North, she pledges marriage to Ramsay and all of Westeros celebrate the return of the Targaryen Dynasty. However, at the wedding, Tyrion pays the minstrel to play Rains of Castamere and Ramsay notices something is amiss. The Twenty Good Men leap to his defence but are all taken out by Jorah, Loras, Daario, Davos and Brienne who heard about the wedding and planned to pledge her allegiance to Dany. It's what Renly and Catelyn would've wanted.

Ramsay is then fed to Drogon while Sansa is in the background of the shot screaming "JUST DO IT!! DON'T LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAMS, JUST DO IT!!"

The camera then pans to Tyrion and Davos getting drunk together, witnessing Dany's master ruse come to fruition, ridding Westeros of a truly evil man and his twenty good men.

"The Targaryen girl, Davos, what do you think? She could well be the greatest Queen this world has ever seen."

"Aye, she has a keen sense of justice too. Keener than any man or woman I've ever known. Living or dead."

"True, but most importantly, she knows how to play the Game. The Game of Thrones."

Fade to black, credits roll. Best ending evar. Give me my cheque D&D.

Spoiler

I'm not bitter or disappointed at all. Honest. :s

[Jester]

Considering how the writing is evolving, this scenario seems likely.

[Ozzy]

There's a disturbing lack of Bad Pooussey™ in that final scene. 

[Fast Jimmy]

Ramsay is then fed to Drogon while Sansa is in the background of the shot screaming "JUST DO IT!! DON'T LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAMS, JUST DO IT!!"

[Star fury]

I've read the books first so you can dismiss me as a biased hater but writers really really messed up the fifth season.

 

1) Idiot Stannis who attacks a heavily fortified castle while being outnumbered and sacrifices his DAUGHTER(while in books he explicitly didn't allow to burn even an Ironborn). And Brienne meeting Stannis... Are you **** kidding me?

2) Sansa instead of Jeyne Poole. Really?

3) No Lady Stoneheart, no Wyman Manderly, it was his line - "the North remembers"!

[Fast Jimmy]

2) Sansa instead of Jeyne Poole. Really?

I'm not very far into Dance of Dragons, but I don't see the big deal here. Yes, they replace her with Sansa. Because Sansa is a top-bill character and needed something more to do than hug onto Littlefinger's coat tails. They'd have to introduce a brand new character to the show and give us a reason to care about her at all, which means sacrificing lines and screen time for an already anemic season.

Also, how was f!Aemon not on your rant list? The Golden Company is made out to be one of the most powerful forces on the table from what I can tell.

[Star fury]

I'm not very far into Dance of Dragons, but I don't see the big deal here. Yes, they replace her with Sansa. Because Sansa is a top-bill character and needed something more to do than hug onto Littlefinger's coat tails. They'd have to introduce a brand new character to the show and give us a reason to care about her at all, which means sacrificing lines and screen time for an already anemic season.

Also, how was f!Aemon not on your rant list? The Golden Company is made out to be one of the most powerful forces on the table from what I can tell.

It's a big deal because Sansa/Aleyne has a role in the Vale with the Littlefinger. Whole plot with fake Arya(Jeyne Poole) and reaction of Jon Snow and with Mance(who is burned LOL) is destroyed.

 

Do you mean Aegon aka Deus ex Machina who somehow survived a sack of King's Landing? Aemon is a Night's Watch maester. I didn't mention him because he's also in the books and I detested his miraculous appearance in ASOIAF.

[Fast Jimmy]

It's a big deal because Sansa/Aleyne has a role in the Vale with the Littlefinger. Whole plot with fake Arya(Jeyne Poole) and reaction of Jon Snow and with Mance(who is burned LOL) is destroyed.

Do you mean Aegon aka Deus ex Machina who somehow survived a sack of King's Landing? I didn't mention him because he's also in the books and I detested his miraculous appearance in ASOIAF.

You're right, I did mean Aegon. I get that you may not have liked the plotline, but it has arguably much more significance than any type of cloak and dagger business going on in the Vale.

When filming a show with only ten episodes to an entire book, you have to put main chafacters together as much as possible. Putting Sansa in Winterfell made more sense from a scene economy sense than having her continue to be in hiding in the Vale.

[Ozzy]

I would have preferred if they handled Sansa the same way they handled Bran. Give her the season off and show her as this competent player in the Vale in S6. They could have moved the hamfisted Darth Sansa walks down a flight of stairs into the opening of that sequence or whatever. By moving Sansa to Winterfell, they both missed the entire point of Jeyne's inclusion and the horrors therein and they stuck Sansa in a degrading and pointless repetition of seasons past while making Littlefinger look like an unobservant and idiotic git at the same time (they basically stated that he had no idea of Ramsay's predilections).

 

If they were insistent on moving her to Winterfell then changes should have been made to match up with this outcome. The reason why the abuse heaped on Jeyne was 'allowed' was because she was no one of significance as opposed to being a real Stark. The Northern Lords attending the wedding at Winterfell don't care about her because of this reason. It was the reason they went along with the charade with no overt objection.  It's brutal and sad that she matters so little to them but it's further indicative of how the High Lords play their games and to hell with how those caught in between suffer. This all ultimately makes Theon's decision to help rescue her even more meaningful. He's essentially the only one that cares about her.

 

Sansa being there should have led to a different outcome. To events playing out in a really different fashion but they made the change and couldn't deal with the resulting butterfly effect that it would have had and resorted to trying to shove a square peg into a triangular hole. 

 

I agree that certain changes need to be made to accommodate for the change in medium and the limited (and self-imposed) episodes in which to tell to the story but they seem to have missed a lot of soul in their quest to streamline and shock this season. 

[Treacherous J Slither]

Finally saw the "rape" of Sansa scene. Didn't look like rape to me. Seems she consented. Ramsey was just being Ramsey about taking her virginity. 

 

I also thought it was absolutely ridiculous how the Queen Of Thorns was so easily outmanuevered. Complete nonsense. All she had to do was say "Free Ser Loras or Westeros starves." and walk out. 

[DrBlingzle]

Finally saw the "rape" of Sansa scene. Didn't look like rape to me. Seems she consented. Ramsey was just being Ramsey about taking her virginity. 

 

Well it's hardly like she had a choice. If she said no Ramsay would of just chained her down and continued. It was Rape. 

 

Even if someone says "yes", if it was done under threat, it's pretty much rape.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

All I hope is that Jaime doesn't die next season.

 

He's basically my last major character I'm rooting for. Tyrion too, but he's with Dany, so...meh.

 

Spoiler

 

lol I jinxed it didn't I 

 

[Rawgrim]

Finally saw the "rape" of Sansa scene. Didn't look like rape to me. Seems she consented. Ramsey was just being Ramsey about taking her virginity. 

 

I also thought it was absolutely ridiculous how the Queen Of Thorns was so easily outmanuevered. Complete nonsense. All she had to do was say "Free Ser Loras or Westeros starves." and walk out. 

 

Or "Oliver works as Loras squire. He has seen Loras naked as part of his job plenty of times. That is how he knows about the birthmark."

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Then Oliver would be all "He also has a flower tattoo that 'grows strong' when he gets - "

 

"Enough." 

[Rawgrim]

Then Oliver would be all "He also has a flower tattoo that 'grows strong' when he gets - "

 

"Enough." 

 

"My lord blooms when I clean his wounds"

[DrBlingzle]

Or "Oliver works as Loras squire. He has seen Loras naked as part of his job plenty of times. That is how he knows about the birthmark."

   You are never going to let that go are you?

[Fast Jimmy]

"My lord blooms when I clean his wounds"

They're trying to prove he's NOT gay.

[Rawgrim]

   You are never going to let that go are you?

 

I never let anything go. It is a character flaw I have. Plus...if you are right, and you let things go, you lose.

[Fast Jimmy]

I never let anything go. It is a character flaw I have. Plus...if you are right, and you let things go, you lose.

Playing the Game of Internets, you win or you die.

[Shechinah]

Finally saw the "rape" of Sansa scene. Didn't look like rape to me. Seems she consented. Ramsey was just being Ramsey about taking her virginity. 

 

While it is highly unlikely her consent would have mattered at all, I do not believe she consented to that vicious and brutal way of marital consummation especially with how she sounded during and after the scene.
 

[Addai]

Finally saw the "rape" of Sansa scene. Didn't look like rape to me. Seems she consented. Ramsey was just being Ramsey about taking her virginity.

She was coerced. It was rape.
 

I also thought it was absolutely ridiculous how the Queen Of Thorns was so easily outmanuevered. Complete nonsense. All she had to do was say "Free Ser Loras or Westeros starves." and walk out.

She brought up that point and the Sparrow suggested she might face riots at home. Presumably she realizes he's right or she wouldn't have backed down.

Do you mean Aegon aka Deus ex Machina who somehow survived a sack of King's Landing? Aemon is an Ironborn priest. I didn't mention him because he's also in the books and I detested his miraculous appearance in ASOIAF.

Spoiler

It'll be miraculous only if we find out he's really Aegon (unlikely) rather than some Blackfyre or nobody pretender. Hence the Mummer's Dragon.

[Star fury]

I would have preferred if they handled Sansa the same way they handled Bran. Give her the season off and show her as this competent player in the Vale in S6. They could have moved the hamfisted Darth Sansa walks down a flight of stairs into the opening of that sequence or whatever. By moving Sansa to Winterfell, they both missed the entire point of Jeyne's inclusion and the horrors therein and they stuck Sansa in a degrading and pointless repetition of seasons past while making Littlefinger look like an unobservant and idiotic git at the same time (they basically stated that he had no idea of Ramsay's predilections).

Absolutely agreed.

 

 

All I hope is that Jaime doesn't die next season.

 

He's basically my last major character I'm rooting for. Tyrion too, but he's with Dany, so...meh.

 

Spoiler

 

lol I jinxed it didn't I 

 

Jaime is in a pretty, okay, I don't want to spoil you with information from the books and anyway the more the show is going they differ more and more.

 

 

Spoiler

It'll be miraculous only if we find out he's really Aegon (unlikely) rather than some Blackfyre or nobody pretender. Hence the Mummer's Dragon.

That would be an excellent twist and I will forgive GRRM for his inclusion.

[Bison]

 

Jaime is in a pretty, okay, I don't want to spoil you with information from the books and anyway the more the show is going they differ more and more.

 

 

Goddamn book spoiler guys, so beware

Spoiler

You reckon Brienne is seriously going to take him to Stoneheart?

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Spoiler

 

I still think Jaime will end up being the valonqar, so I'm thinking he won't die yet.

 

[Bison]

Spoiler

 

I still think Jaime will end up being the valonqar, so I'm thinking he won't die yet.

 

Spoiler

is he younger than Cersei? I thought he was first out, might just be my dodgy memory