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Hmmm...interesting- It seems one character that dies in A Storm of Swords will die in Season 1. Apparently its a "he" too....

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I don't like Tyrion at all. I hate smartass-with-a-heart-of-gold types. Varric is another one <_<

But the characters are all great, if I had to pick a fave, I'd probably go with Daenerys.


Eh, Daenerys is a Mary Sue, Cersei is a 1 dimensional Disney villian, and Dark Star is like Boba Fett but even more pathetic. 

Sorry, I have a tendency to shove my opinion up other peoples' opinions.

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Brockololly wrote...

Hmmm...interesting- It seems one character that dies in A Storm of Swords will die in Season 1. Apparently its a "he" too....



SPOILAHZ FOR SOME PEPS


Sandor? Jeor Mormont?

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 13 avril 2011 - 10:30 .


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Capt. Obvious wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

I don't like Tyrion at all. I hate smartass-with-a-heart-of-gold types. Varric is another one <_<

But the characters are all great, if I had to pick a fave, I'd probably go with Daenerys.


Eh, Daenerys is a Mary Sue, Cersei is a 1 dimensional Disney villian, and Dark Star is like Boba Fett but even more pathetic. 

Sorry, I have a tendency to shove my opinion up other peoples' opinions.


:huh:

I dunno what you're getting at. I just said I didn't like Tyrion's personality, not that he's a bad character or anything.

To me Daenerys and Cersei are anything but one dimensional. I have no idea who Darkstar is though, guess it's a book 4 character?

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Avalla'ch wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Hmmm...interesting- It seems one character that dies in A Storm of Swords will die in Season 1. Apparently its a "he" too....



SPOILAHZ FOR SOME PEPS


Sandor? Jeor Mormont?


Oh man, now I already read it <_<

Poor Sandor.

Odd that they'd do something like this though, I thought the show was supposed to completely follow the books' story.

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I have to agree on Cersei. One-dimensional? I think not. Single-minded perhaps, but not one-dimensional. Cersei does fit the old trope of power hungry schemer always grasping for more, but is characterized in an interesting enough way to make me hate her. If she were one-dimensional I would find her silly. Why do you see her that way, Capt. Obvious?

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silver-crescent wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

I don't like Tyrion at all. I hate smartass-with-a-heart-of-gold types. Varric is another one <_<

But the characters are all great, if I had to pick a fave, I'd probably go with Daenerys.


Eh, Daenerys is a Mary Sue, Cersei is a 1 dimensional Disney villian, and Dark Star is like Boba Fett but even more pathetic. 

Sorry, I have a tendency to shove my opinion up other peoples' opinions.


:huh:

I dunno what you're getting at. I just said I didn't like Tyrion's personality, not that he's a bad character or anything.

To me Daenerys and Cersei are anything but one dimensional. I have no idea who Darkstar is though, guess it's a book 4 character?


You're right. Daenerys is good character and relatable, but they way she unrealistically dodges every situation she meets after Book 1 perturds me. She's a lot more safe compared to all the other characters.

Edit: Yeah, Dark Star is a Book 4 character.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 13 avril 2011 - 12:57 .


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I think GRRM is keeping Cersei safe to fulfill the prophecy of her ultimate destruction. He probably wants to build her up as much as possible beforehand.

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I think GRRM is keeping Cersei safe to fulfill the prophecy of her ultimate destruction. He probably wants to build her up as much as possible beforehand.


I would argue that the Maggy the Frog prophecy was the worst development in AFFC but that's a matter of opinion. Anyway, the reason why I dub Cersei as a 1 dimensional character is because she is shown as nothing but power-hungry and manipulative and her character doesn't leave room for sympathy. Also, her desire for power is so tied with her wickedness that it becomes impossible to seperate the two. She really isn't given much reason for how she turned out that way because as it turns out, when she was 10 years-old, she pushed her best friend down a well and somehow got away with it which just makes no sense.  In other words, she was evil back then and she was evil now. I'm not talking about her as person, but as a character. So as a character, she's pretty bad.

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It depends on how you look at it, I guess. You make valid points. I think what it comes down to is I am satisfied with Cersei as she is. I never expected she would be this deep, layered character with a sympathetic side. Sometimes being a totally unsympathetic monster is sufficient if it is done well enough.

Take Iago in Othello. He has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, but who can seriously argue he is anything but a pivotal and well written character? That is more or less how I see Cersei. She does well in the role GRRM created her for.

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Well.. so what? Sometimes people are just bad seeds. We're not meant to sympathize with every character. The fact that we do so (well, I do anyway) with Jaime is feat enough.

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Ah, it figures that there would be a thread on the series here.

I loved the 15 minute teaser. Every bit of it. I like that it was dragged out and not disposed of quickly: my worst fears were that the book would be adapted into a movie. A TV series is much better.

Shame we didn't really get to see much of Sansa, among the Starks though. I still wish they weren't aged up, but alas.

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Screw the whole damn lot of you. I downloaded a preview chapter of this on my Kindle to see what all the fuss was about and now find myself having to buy the full book. Damn you all.

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Screw the whole damn lot of you. I downloaded a preview chapter of this on my Kindle to see what all the fuss was about and now find myself having to buy the full book. Damn you all.


Trust me when I say you won't stop at the first book Image IPB

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Druss99 wrote...

Screw the whole damn lot of you. I downloaded a preview chapter of this on my Kindle to see what all the fuss was about and now find myself having to buy the full book. Damn you all.


Yep, you're done for Druss, but be sure to report back...

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Maria13 wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

Screw the whole damn lot of you. I downloaded a preview chapter of this on my Kindle to see what all the fuss was about and now find myself having to buy the full book. Damn you all.


Yep, you're done for Druss, but be sure to report back...

Well I've got as far as the dire wolf pups and had to stop so that I'll have some for later, can't afford to buy the full book until tomorrow. The opening in the forest was excellent and I've enjoyed it so far. Hopefully I can get far enough into it that the tv show doesn't give me any big spoilers on monday.

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SPOILERAMA

silver-crescent wrote...

Avalla'ch wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Hmmm...interesting- It seems one character that dies in A Storm of Swords will die in Season 1. Apparently its a "he" too....


Sandor? Jeor Mormont?


Oh man, now I already read it <_<

Poor Sandor.

Odd that they'd do something like this though, I thought the show was supposed to completely follow the books' story.


While the Hound is dead, Sandor most likely isn't.

/SPOILERAMA

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twincast wrote...

SPOILERAMA

silver-crescent wrote...

Avalla'ch wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Hmmm...interesting- It seems one character that dies in A Storm of Swords will die in Season 1. Apparently its a "he" too....


Sandor? Jeor Mormont?


Oh man, now I already read it <_<

Poor Sandor.

Odd that they'd do something like this though, I thought the show was supposed to completely follow the books' story.


While the Hound is dead, Sandor most likely isn't.

/SPOILERAMA


SPOILASAURS
Course, maybe old Marty just assumes that we all think Sandor's dead. :P

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 13 avril 2011 - 07:01 .


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I always get the 2 Clegane brothers mixed up <_<

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Sandor is the Hound.

Gregor is "the Mountain"

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Yeah, they should have been given more distinct names.

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naughty99 wrote...

Sandor is the Hound.

Gregor is "the Mountain"

I know that. I was loosely quoting a septon.

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Druss99 wrote...
Well I've got as far as the dire wolf pups and had to stop so that I'll have some for later, can't afford to buy the full book until tomorrow. The opening in the forest was excellent and I've enjoyed it so far. Hopefully I can get far enough into it that the tv show doesn't give me any big spoilers on monday.


Heh- I only read Game of Thrones several months ago for the first time and I'm generally a slow reader when reading novels in my free time. I tore through the book in a weekend- thats insanely fast for me.  So yeah, you might get through it faster than you think :wizard:

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Brockololly wrote...

Druss99 wrote...
Well I've got as far as the dire wolf pups and had to stop so that I'll have some for later, can't afford to buy the full book until tomorrow. The opening in the forest was excellent and I've enjoyed it so far. Hopefully I can get far enough into it that the tv show doesn't give me any big spoilers on monday.


Heh- I only read Game of Thrones several months ago for the first time and I'm generally a slow reader when reading novels in my free time. I tore through the book in a weekend- thats insanely fast for me.  So yeah, you might get through it faster than you think :wizard:


I completely agree!  I seem to recall reading three or four of the novels in an incredibly fast pace during Christmas break

Modifié par naughty99, 13 avril 2011 - 07:53 .


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Anyone catch the Song of Ice/Fire reference on Chuck last night?

"Oh, Edderd, why did you get your kids a Dire Wolf? That's a terrible idea!"