Brockololly wrote...
Apollo Starflare wrote...
ASoIaF is already so convoluted, twisting all over the place, that I don't think wholesay changes from the source material will be healthy for it. It could easily collapse in on itself if they aren't careful.
Yup, especially if they intend to go beyond A Storm of Swords, then the whole thing gets even more complex. You already have some of this with how somebody like Mago was killed off in season 1, when GRRM mentioned he's supposed to come back in The Winds of Winter. Or how they dealt with Marillion. Now, they could easily get new characters to fill their future roles, but part of the thing I really enjoy with the books is how GRRM introduces new characters to little fanfare only to have them pop up later in a more prominent role. That way their re-introduction doesn't necessarily seem forced or like they're only there to fill a plot role, but that they've been around all along, just not on center stage.
Completely agree, especially regarding the way he introduces seemingly irrelevant characters only to have them become pivotol later on. If anything he does it a little too often, but on the whole I think it's a must for the series as well. I suppose the problem for the showrunners is getting a good enough/high profile enough actor to play what initially seems such a minor character (even if said actor is happy with the initial small role it can make it hard to arrange a contract if their story doesn't really begin for another year or so).
Seagloom wrote...
[...]That is not to say I think they
should include every tidbit from the novels. Obviously that would be
impossible. Merely that some of what they ignored in season one will
either have farther reaching consequences in the story, or result in
disjointed pacing and rushed character development later.
The
less I see GoT as a novel adaptation, the more I enjoy it. Otherwise, it
is difficult not to rake it through the coals even though I loved it.
But as they say, we always hurt the ones we love, right?
Oh I'm not trying to say it has been the perfect adaptation, but really it is only the exclusion (so far) of the Blackfish that really stands out as a poor decision.
Really, where it matters, they have gotten it right. Bolton not being cast was purely because he really comes into it in the coming series and they were trying to cut costs, it's quite possible it'll be that way for most supposed 'cut' characters (we can but hope). Naturally some might have to be replaced with new characters or have their roles folded into other characters stories, but so far it hasn't been massive, certainly not enough to make me lose faith. Afterall, LotRO is considered a great adaptation and that changed oodles in some areas. It just (mostly) kept the important stuff the same. Although I suppose opinions will differ on what deserves classifying as 'important'.
The Cersei thing is interesting though, I read the books post-series and missed that. Definitely gets added to the list of nitpicks along with the lack of Neds flashback and such.
I thought Bran was fine though, really. It'll be if they cut the Reeds that I get worried. Ramsay is an important casting too... Both of which explain why, for me, season 2 will be telling in regards to how serious they are about making it as direct an adaptation as they can. There are some characters they should bend over backwards to fit in, and fit in at the right time. The Blackfish and the Tulley's can be postponed (and sadly the Blackfish can even be cut) but others just have too much of an impact to be replaced. That's the difference for me broadly speaking.
/essay.
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Season one already strayed plenty in several respects. Most of Bran's character development was gutted. Renly Baratheon was misrepresented. Cersei was softened up to make her slightly more sympathetic. The timing of Robert's death and Eddard's threat to Cersei means she could not have maneuvered his death. The Blackfish and Roose Bolton were nonexistent. I could go on and on.
