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[AxisEvolve]

Dave of Canada wrote...

I can't wait until the wedding in SoS.

I can wait for that. I'm not sure I want to see that. 

The Reek ADWD chapters are going to be disturbing as hell to watch. 

[k177sh0t]

Shame the first episode did not include a few more conversation lines between Cersei and Tyrion when they met at the council table

"Although it did not seem quite just that you should open your legs for one brother and not the other" - Tyrion Lannister

Oh man, ice buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn

Modifié par k177sh0t, 02 avril 2012 - 09:58 .

[Seagloom]

Brockololly wrote...

Although I really dislike Shae. I never liked her much in the book either, but in the show I just find her and her actress rather obnoxious. Same goes with Ros.

Did Ros show up this episode? For a moment I thought that brothel madam character was her, but it's been too long since I've seen that actress's face to be sure. One change I found curious is how Shae is openly living with Tyrion in the Tower of the Hand. I'm not sure Shae is supposed to be likable. Her dialogue makes her sound a touch obnoxious.

Special effects wise, I thought Grey Wind and Dany's dragon looked great. The comet looked iffy in every shot. It kept making me think "the more you know" every time it appeared.

The worst effect had to be the panorama when Tyrion and Shae are looking out at King's Landing. They clearly blew their budget on the beasties.

Modifié par Seagloom, 02 avril 2012 - 11:11 .

[HoonDing]

I've been waiting for this. I want more very bad things to happen to dumb Starks.

Actually, scratch that. I want very bad things to happen to everyone.

Brockololly wrote...

Ygritte!

OMG, too cute!

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Modifié par virumor, 02 avril 2012 - 01:49 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Watched the first episode. I like it very much. Not enough Danny, but I was told that she doesn't do much in the 2nd book, so yea.

Honestly though, I'm tired of Joffrey's character. He's boring and clearly designed to just be hated and I'd rather he die very soon.

I am not a huge fan of the Starks, but Robb is growing on me. Somehow though I think he'll screw up.

[Addai]

Brockololly wrote...
Anyway, I really enjoyed the episode. I thought it moved along really well and did a good job of setting up everything for subsequent episodes. My main complaint would be how they handled the intorduction of Dragonstone and Mel, Davos and Stannis. Its sort of an issue thats present in the prologue of the book too, in that you're just tossed in with these new characters, but its doubly so in the show where they skip straight to the burning of the Seven and they don't do much to set that up.

Then you have Cressen's death which just comes across as really odd and almost pointless since they did next to nothing to set it up. I almost wonder if they wouldn't have been better off just cutting that completely.

I think it was fine.  The book's prologue is kind of abrupt and slow, too.  You have Cressen mumbling over the comet and I remember thinking "who is this old guy and why do I care?"  The scene with Cressen and Melisandre is a must, I think.  It sets up Melisandre as someone who's got mysterious power.

But otherwise, Mel, Davos and Stannis were better than I could have hoped. They seem to have nailed Stannis' personality- I loved the scene where he's getting all OCD on the letter. And little touches like Mel's ruby glowing were nice. She looked pretty good, I must say.

Carice van Houten is not how I pictured Mel at all, but I think she'll grow into the role, just as Lena Headey did with Cersei.  A lot of people said the same thing about her but Headey's acting is just fantastic, as she showed in this episode, particularly with Tyrion but also Joffrey.

Stannis was great- just as he should be.

Although I really dislike Shae. I never liked her much in the book either, but in the show I just find her and her actress rather obnoxious. Same goes with Ros. 

Yes, I would have loved a renegade interrupt on her too, like the Hound coming up behind her and tossing her off that balcony.

Speaking of the Hound- I loved the scene at Joffrey's barfday.  You got some San-San and some very sad Tyr-San.  Sansa is more sympathetic in the TV series, I think.

I just got excited when they brought up Mance Rayder and the King Beyond the Wall. Ugh...I can't wait for next season already.

I know, me too!  Mance    I want Kevin Kidd (Lucius Vorenus from HBO's Rome) to play him.

Season three is going to be the bomb.

Modifié par Addai67, 02 avril 2012 - 05:41 .

[LTD]

Wait...is that Ygritte pic a real deal? She looks like a model from some Scandinavian Angels 2012 photoshoot or something. Way too cute, way too clean, way too hot.
But hay it's HBO can't have dem girls who kiss  homely.

Modifié par LTD, 02 avril 2012 - 05:34 .

[Addai]

Seagloom wrote...
Did Ros show up this episode? For a moment I thought that brothel madam character was her, but it's been too long since I've seen that actress's face to be sure.

Yes, that was Ros.  The funny thing was that her "coaching" of the prostitutes was almost word for word the same things Littlefinger said to her in season one.  So apparently Ros is moving up in the world.  I think she's going to become our smuggling madam.

@LTD- I thought the same thing about the shot of Ygritte.  She needs to be rougher and more badass.  Maybe it's just a publicity shot and we'll see the real Ygritte in the show.

Oh... great introduction for Dolorous Edd.  "I was born in a place like this.  Then I fell on hard times."  LOL  Dropped in nonchalantly, just as it should be.

Modifié par Addai67, 02 avril 2012 - 05:38 .

[k177sh0t]

LTD wrote...

Wait...is that Ygritte pic a real deal? She looks like a model from some Scandinavian Angels 2012 photoshoot or something. Way too cute, way too clean, way too hot.
But hay it's HBO can't have dem girls who kiss  homely.

Scottish

[Seagloom]

I thought Cressen's chapter was plodding in the book. It was the only chapter I found harder to read through than Dany's stuff in ACoK. While it gave me a good idea of what Stannis and Davos were like; and caught me up on the political state of Westeros, I was glad to put it behind me. I think what first endeared me to Melisandre was when she ended it via Cressen-death.

Not that I was happy to see a man with good intentions hoisted on his petard. Only that it was the most interesting thing to occur in said chapter.

I felt the show zipped through Cressen's arc too quickly to adequately establish his motivations or what the situation in Dragonstone is like. That said, I did not care enough to note it yesterday as the chapter was that meh in my mind.

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So that *was* Ros? Huh... guess that doesn't say much for her being a memorable character. I don't think she is going to repalce the original smuggling madam. Mainly because I got the impression that entire subplot would be dropped. As I wrote in an earlier post, I found it strange Shae was with Tyrion in the Tower of the Hand, brazen as you please.

Modifié par Seagloom, 02 avril 2012 - 07:29 .

[HoonDing]

If Melisandre is native to Asshai, shouldn't she look Asian? Isn't Asshai the equivalent of China?

[Tirigon]

I saw way too little of the series to judge it.

But I saw enough to make me buy the novels, so yea. Very helpful series, definitely.
I havent started reading them yet, because there are 2 other novels I got to finish first, but I definitely look forward to it.

[AxisEvolve]

k177sh0t wrote...

Shame the first episode did not include a few more conversation lines between Cersei and Tyrion when they met at the council table

"Although it did not seem quite just that you should open your legs for one brother and not the other" - Tyrion Lannister

Oh man, ice buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn

It's still possible. They seem to rearrange a lot of dialog on the show. 

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 02 avril 2012 - 07:39 .

[android654]

So I walked away thinking a few things.

-Joffrey is a c*nt.
-Tyrion is still the man.
-Little Finger is about to pull something sinister
-Both Rob and John are going to come around soon as real men at the head of their respective armies.
-Baratheon had a lot of kids
-Baby murder should feel more disturbing, but it kind of wasn't

All in all, can't wait for next Sunday. I'm so impatient that I'm actually on Amazon looking for a complete set of the books.

[KnightofPhoenix]

android654 wrote...
-Little Finger is about to pull something sinister

He always does.

I'll laugh when Cersei sees everything crumbling around her and with Baelish emerging stronger and stronger.

[Costin_Razvan]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Honestly though, I'm tired of Joffrey's character. He's boring and clearly designed to just be hated and I'd rather he die very soon.

I am not a huge fan of the Starks, but Robb is growing on me. Somehow though I think he'll screw up.

You have no idea.

[Seagloom]

virumor wrote...

If Melisandre is native to Asshai, shouldn't she look Asian? Isn't Asshai the equivalent of China?

She isn't described that way in the books, or depicted as such in any licensed artwork I've seen.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

Doesn't Ned get referenced in the latest book? I could have sworn hearing from one of my classmates that there was something of that sort......

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Honestly though, I'm tired of Joffrey's character. He's boring and clearly designed to just be hated and I'd rather he die very soon.

I am not a huge fan of the Starks, but Robb is growing on me. Somehow though I think he'll screw up.

You have no idea.

At the moment, I'm saying in my head that Rob trusts Theon Greyjoy a bit too much.
It might make sense for the Iron Islands to join his rebellion, but it's equally easy to buy their loyalty, especially when the Lannisters are involved.

Or I could just be overly cynical, we'll see.

[Addai]

virumor wrote...

If Melisandre is native to Asshai, shouldn't she look Asian? Isn't Asshai the equivalent of China?

No, people from Asshai have pale skin and often have red hair.  So she's par for the course.

[Costin_Razvan]

At the moment, I'm saying in my head that Rob trusts Theon Greyjoy a bit too much.
It might make sense for the Iron Islands to join his rebellion, but it's equally easy to buy their loyalty, especially when the Lannisters are involved.

Or I could just be overly cynical, we'll see.

If you want an answer I can provide, but it is not what you expect.

[KnightofPhoenix]

No I'd rather not be spoiled.

[Lakhi]

The infanticide scene... gah, I'd forgotten about that. It REALLY made my blood boil at cersei (as I just loathe things like that).

I was planning on rereading ACoK but I think I'll hold off and maybe just reread ADWD.

[AxisEvolve]

Lakhi wrote...

The infanticide scene... gah, I'd forgotten about that. It REALLY made my blood boil at cersei (as I just loathe things like that).

I was planning on rereading ACoK but I think I'll hold off and maybe just reread ADWD.

Wasn't it implied (on the show) that Joffrey ordered that attack? I'm pretty sure in the book it was assumed to be Cersei who did it. But they may have hinted that it was Joffrey at some point, I can't remember. The TV series likes to amplify subtleties.

Ah, I'm confused.