Aeowyn wrote...
Brockololly wrote...
At least in the book, I got the impression he was more under control of Cersei still at this point. They seem to really be trying to make Cersei more sympathatic and making Joff completely inhuman. He's still a royal **** in the books, but he seemed more real there, like a petulant teen boy thats indulging in a power fantasy but occasionally taken down to reality by his elders, who are really pulling the strings. In the show it almost seems he's taking too much control.
Really? I didn't notice a difference, only madness conceived by incest. A parallel to King Aerys.
No, it's not madness, IMO, it's more power hungry, out of control adolescent.
Robert pretty much ignored him, from what I can tell (both in the books and in the series) while Cersei filled his head with thoughts of entitlement. Nobody did anything to control the kid. He was an ass when he was in Winterfell early on (in the books, don't recall how he was portrayed in the show). He just became a bigger ass when the crown went on his head.
Look at the nonsense with Ned's beheading - kid King, makes that call, nobody can back him down. He does it solely to demonstrate his power - and then grows to like that power, which leads to more such episodes - baby killing, as we've seen, and others yet to come.
Then again, look at Cersei with Littlefinger. Granted, he somewhat provoked her, but what did she do? Not make a threat, or say something subtly - she went right to "seize him, kill him, let him go" - and then went further with "turn around, take 3 steps, close your eyes", etc. She's as power mad as he is.
Now, I do think they're making her a bit more sympathetic at times, for reasons to come as those who've read the books are aware. I think they're doing a poor job when they throw in things like this.