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[Cancermeat]

Im surprised somebody hasnt tried to make a wii game or ps3 game out of these books

[naughty99]

Cancermeat wrote...

Im surprised somebody hasnt tried to make a wii game or ps3 game out of these books

There is a pen and paper RPG and I think he licensed the rights for a cRPG a long time ago, but I don't think it was ever released.

[Brockololly]

Haha- I watched this with some friends that have never read the books and their reaction to the end was priceless:

"Wait...Thats....Aren't they brother and sister?"

"Yup."

"Not cool, man, not cool."

Overall, it was really well done I thought. Considering all the ways something this big could go wrong, its a damn good adaptation thus far. All the actors did a great job, but Viserys was fantastic in particular.

And I think I read somewhere that should the show get picked up for some of the later book, maybe by the 3rd book they'd actually split it into 2 seasons, since there is so much material.

[Urrinor]

 Ok, just finished watching the first episode and... really well-done! 

I love how they worked out the tiny details in different places (Wintefell, The Wall, Pentos), the atmosphere and setting were really great!

Regarding the cast, I liked it in general. The kinship bettween Tyrion and Jaime seems more fleshed out than in the books, and I liked both actors, I think they accurately represented their roles. Tyrion was perfect, Jaime... not exactly how I imagined him, but still pretty well-chosen. Cersei also has the feeling of the book. Just wish she was younger and more of a classical beauty (imo, of course), like she is depicted...

Sean Bean is perfect for the role of Ned, and the actress who plays Catelyn also seems ideal, very motherly and the love bettween the too is very latent!

The gang of brothers, well, I like the ones they picked for Sansa (I'm sorry, I can't help but love strong British accents  ), Robb, Rickon, Bran... for Arya, I still have to see more of her. Jon... hrrr... I'm not sure. Physically, he seems really out of place for me. Like, a lot out of place! But seeing that actor, well, act, I actually think he might end up nailing the role  He seems to fit the character... too bad he differs so much from the mental image I have of Jon, gotta learn to live with that I guess...

Daenerys and her brother also seem allright for their respective roles. Dany more than Viserys (which I think should have been depicted as a bit more cruel... where was the nipple twisting scene?  ).

Overall, I loved what they did with this episode. It has a great tone, and manages to pull off a unique identity! Really great. The ways they deviated from the series weren't too extensive, and it was fine like this, with various little details and scenes that help us get the feeling of Westeros 

[MJRick]

Watched the first episode thought it was a little better than HBO's other soft core pornos but thats not really saying much, non of the acting was really anything out of this word, the world seems rather bland, and im sure given time the series will drift from the book but it's loads better than the walking abomination that is true blood

[Norskatt]

I'd like to see everyone's opinions on characters. Go here to take the poll.

[Cancermeat]

i havent read any of the books yet but ive heard that incest is a reacurring theme pretty gross

[TJPags]

naughty99 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Seven if he actually completes the series.

Can you imagine the stark raving mad army of fans that will erupt as the deadline approaches for the HBO series to begin prepping the 6th and 7th seasons if GRRM has not finished the books in time?

Well, I've seen some of the uproar going on for the past 5 years with the unending Dance of Dragons delay . . . multiply that times however many people get into this series from the show alone.

Cancermeat wrote...

The writer looks pretty old i hope he doesnt die or something.

Oh, now that's a touchy subject . . .

MJRick wrote...

Watched the first episode thought it was a little better than HBO's other soft core pornos but thats not really saying much, non of the acting was really anything out of this word, the world seems rather bland, and im sure given time the series will drift from the book but it's loads better than the walking abomination that is true blood

There is quite a bit that can go wrong on a series this large.  Certainly, there will eventually come a time when decisions need to be made on, say, the TV version of book 5, and book 6 may not yet be finished.  Hard to know, at that point, what to emphasize, what to cut, etc.

However, GRRM is a consultant on this series - he wrote the script for 1 (maybe 2) episodes of this season, and has been involved in a lot of the decisions - not sure how much of a say he actually has, but he's made himself available, and the HBO people seem to be using him as a resource.

Now, I don't know about the author of True Blood, but to draw an example from Legend of the Seeker (based - very loosely - on the Terry Goodkind series Sword of Truth, which I - unfortunately - read) the author had little to do with that series.  Changes were made, and as I understand it, Terry Goodkind has distanced himself from the TV show.  As I understand, he also did not retain any creative control.

I have hopes that, with GRRM involved, it won't stray too far.  A lot can happen to change that, of course, not least being GRRM's penchant for . . . well, distracting himself with other projects. 

But I can hope. 

[naughty99]

MJRick wrote...

im sure given time the series will drift from the book but it's loads better than the walking abomination that is true blood

I read all of the Charlaine Harris novels and I actually think some of the changes were for the better with the TV series.

In particular LAFAYETTE

[Druss99]

Cancermeat wrote...

i havent read any of the books yet but ive heard that incest is a reacurring theme pretty gross

The trailers and hype for the show got me interested in the books. I bought the first one last week and have to say its been quite excellent so far. You should definately check them out.

[TJPags]

Cancermeat wrote...

i havent read any of the books yet but ive heard that incest is a reacurring theme pretty gross

I wouldn't call it a recurring theme.

There is a plot line that revolves around it, but the instances of on-screen incest are very limited.

[Cancermeat]

i think HBO should have shown 2 episodes because i didnt think the first episode nothing really happened too big. I felt the same way about the first episode of Rome.

[Cancermeat]

Druss99 wrote...

Cancermeat wrote...

i havent read any of the books yet but ive heard that incest is a reacurring theme pretty gross

The trailers and hype for the show got me interested in the books. I bought the first one last week and have to say its been quite excellent so far. You should definately check them out.

whats the first book called?

[Druss99]

Cancermeat wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

Cancermeat wrote...

i havent read any of the books yet but ive heard that incest is a reacurring theme pretty gross

The trailers and hype for the show got me interested in the books. I bought the first one last week and have to say its been quite excellent so far. You should definately check them out.

whats the first book called?

Game of Thrones. The first episode gave minimal spoilers too, its only really the first hundred pages or so thats been covered so far.

[Norskatt]

Druss99 wrote...

Cancermeat wrote...

i havent read any of the books yet but ive heard that incest is a reacurring theme pretty gross

The trailers and hype for the show got me interested in the books. I bought the first one last week and have to say its been quite excellent so far. You should definately check them out.

Same here. I bought the series of books after watching the trailer for the series. i just finished the first book & it was really good.

[Druss99]

Norskatt wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

Cancermeat wrote...

i havent read any of the books yet but ive heard that incest is a reacurring theme pretty gross

The trailers and hype for the show got me interested in the books. I bought the first one last week and have to say its been quite excellent so far. You should definately check them out.

Same here. I bought the series of books after watching the trailer for the series. i just finished the first book & it was really good.

I didn't get it until last Friday or so intending to finish it before the show aired (we get it a day later) until I discovered it was 800 pages and quickly gave up on that idea. I hope to have it finished and get book two for next week. I really feel like an idiot for putting it off for so long, I figured it was going to be far too political for my tastes. It was the trailer, the hype on here and one of IGN's previews that finally got me to check it out.

[Norskatt]

Yeah. I'm usually a fast reader but this book took me about a week & a half to finish reading. And that's with reading in most of my spare time. Anyway, it was really good. i hope you enjoy it

[horacethegrey]

Episode One: Winter is Coming

LIKES:

- The Prologue. I said it before when I watched the preview, the prologue is perfect. It captures the creepy atmosphere of the lands beyond the Wall and the otherworldly horror of the Others (or White Walkers as we know them). Extra points to the guy playing Ser Waymar Royce, he got the smug aristocratic air right.

- Opening Titles. Whoa. That's a great opening! Also a nice aid for audiences in knowing the places of interest in Westeros. And the score is fitting, this is ain't no lyrical fantasy like LOTR. It's a thundering orgy of intrigue and violence.

- The Stark kids.  IMO all of them were perfect. Robb's a good older brother and has a commanding air about him, foreshadowing his kingly role later on. Bran's rambunctious and energetic, shame though what happens to him. Sansa as always is a spoiled tart, and Sophie Turner brought that out quite well. Arya is spunky and rebellious, just as she was in the books. And some praise ought to be given to Kit Harrington, who I thought captured Jon Snow's tortured yet dignified character perfectly. 

- Ned and Robert. Sean Bean was always perfect casting, no surpise his take on Eddard Stark is good. But I'm quite surprised how Mark Addy got Robert Baratheon. The two of them have great chemistry, you really believe they're old buddies just getting reacquainted after being years apart.

- Jaime Lannister. Another surprise, as I'd never seen Nikolai Coster Waldau in anything, but I'm already a fan after his excellent turn as the Kingslayer. He's got the smug arrogance down pat, while still making him likable at the same time. 

- Viserys Targaryen. Being a Doctor Who fan, I'd watched Harry Lloyd in the Human Nature two parter, so I know he would do well playing ax crazy inbred prince like Viserys. What surprised me though, was how subtly he played on Viserys' madness, unlike the book where in his first appearance Viserys was already screaming his head off at Dany. Here, he only hints at the menace and hell he would rain upon her if things don't go his way. Excellent performance by Lloyd. 


DISLIKES:

- Tyrion's introduction. Don't get me wrong, I think Peter Dinklage is perfect for the role, but I really wished they'd introduced him via his conversation with Jon, like in the books, rather than frolicking with a bunch of ****s. Yeah I know, Tyrion is a lech. But one of the things I liked about Martin's intro to the character was the act of compassion he'd done for Jon just moments after his first appearrance. That helped cement the character in my eyes, in that for all his villanous reputation (largely undeserved), there was a good guy underneath.

- The boobs. Yeah I know, this seems like a useless complaint, but I'm still surprised by the amount of flesh they displayed in this first episode. It's like the producers are going out of their way  to proclaim "this ain't no Lord of the Rings". Really hope they tone it down a bit in the subsequent episodes.

- Joffrey. I just literally wanted reach through the screen and punch his snot nosed face in.... Oh wait. Maybe that's a good thing? 

Modifié par horacethegrey, 19 avril 2011 - 01:52 .

[horacethegrey]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

horacethegrey wrote...

- The boobs. Yeah I know, this seems like a useless complaint, but I'm still surprised by the amount of flesh they displayed in this first episode. It's like the producers are going out of their way  to proclaim "this ain't no Lord of the Rings". Really hope they tone it down a bit in the subsequent episodes.

Eh? Compared to other shows on HBO, this one is playing...pretty safe. Or maybe is shouldn't be thinking about Rome in this case. 

Well, I'd only have your word to take for it, since the last HBO shows I watched seriously were Deadwood and Rome., and they had boobs aplenty. I just think the amount of boobage in this pilot was a bit excessive. 

Modifié par horacethegrey, 19 avril 2011 - 01:59 .

[TJPags]

horacethegrey wrote...

Episode One: Winter is Coming

LIKES:

- The Prologue. I said it before when I watched the preview, the prologue is perfect. It captures the creepy atmosphere of the lands beyond the Wall and the otherworldly horror of the Others (or White Walkers as we know them). Extra points to the guy playing Ser Waymar Royce, he got the smug aristocratic air right.

- Opening Titles. Whoa. That's a great opening! Also a nice aid for audiences in knowing the places of interest in Westeros. And the score is fitting, this is ain't no lyrical fantasy like LOTR. It's a thundering orgy of intrigue and violence.

- The Stark kids.  IMO all of them were perfect. Robb's a good older brother and has a commanding air about him, foreshadowing his kingly role later on. Bran's rambunctious and energetic, shame though what happens to him. Sansa as always is a spoiled tart, and Sophie Turner brought that out quite well. Arya is spunky and rebellious, just as she was in the books. And some praise ought to be given to Kit Harrington, who I thought captured Jon Snow's tortured yet dignified character perfectly. 

- Ned and Robert. Sean Bean was always perfect casting, no surpise his take on Eddard Stark is good. But I'm quite surprised how Mark Addy got Robert Baratheon. The two of them have great chemistry, you really believe they're old buddies just getting reacquainted after being years apart.

- Jaime Lannister. Another surprise, as I'd never seen Nikolai Coster Waldau in anything, but I'm already a fan after his excellent turn as the Kingslayer. He's got the smug arrogance down pat, while still making him likable at the same time. 

- Viserys Targaryen. Being a Doctor Who fan, I'd watched Harry Lloyd in the Human Nature two parter, so I know he would do well playing ax crazy inbred prince like Viserys. What surprised me though, was how subtly he played on Viserys' madness, unlike the book where in his first appearance Viserys was already screaming his head off at Dany. Here, he only hints at the menace and hell he would rain upon her if things don't go his way. Excellent performance by Lloyd. 


DISLIKES:

- Tyrion's introduction. Don't get me wrong, I think Peter Dinklage is perfect for the role, but I really wished they'd introduced him via his conversation with Jon, like in the books, rather than frolicking with a bunch of ****s. Yeah I know, Tyrion is a lech. But one of the things I liked about Martin's intro to the character was the act of compassion he'd done for Jon just moments after his first appearrance. That helped cement the character in my eyes, in that for all his villanous reputation (largely undeserved), there was a good guy underneath.

- The boobs. Yeah I know, this seems like a useless complaint, but I'm still surprised by the amount of flesh they displayed in this first episode. It's like the producers are going out of their way  to proclaim "this ain't no Lord of the Rings". Really hope they tone it down a bit in the subsequent episodes.

- Joffrey. I just literally wanted reach through the screen and punch his snot nosed face in.... Oh wait. Maybe that's a good thing? 

I'd agree with almost everything you said here.

However, I'd add the following:

Likes: 

- The byplay between Tyrion and Jaime.  We got a bit of that in the books later on, but they gave it to use early.  They have a bond, more so than any of the other Lannisters, and they showed it well.

Dislikes:

- Robb and Jon.  I didn't get much of a friendly vibe from them in Episode 1.  They didn't interact, had me thinking they didn't like each other.  I hope that changes.

-  Joffrey.  He gave off a sinister vibe to me, almost from the start.  Which, while accurate, takes something from the mystery, I think.

I also really liked how they did the Prologue, but I have to say - I really think they Prologue, as written, would have made for just as good TV - perhaps better.

[naughty99]

Yes Joffrey certainly looked very creepy, which was a slight plus in a way for me because I like some mystery and creepiness in my HBO series.

In the novels however, he is supposed to be very handsome in a way that made Sansa blind to his defects of character. He didn't appear onscreen very long, but he certainly didn't look handsome, which made for an awkward reaction when Sansa praised his good looks.

Modifié par naughty99, 19 avril 2011 - 02:11 .

[Addai]

TJPags wrote...

That's what I've heard. And on my last read of Game of Thrones, I broke it up into episodes, and wound up with 11. So it's doable (I believe there are to be 10 episodes this season).

So, assuming it gets picked up, we have 5 seasons coming to us (assuming Dance with Dragons is actually published sometime in the next 3 years). Seven if he actually completes the series.

I actually read today that GRRM is hoping they will make book 3 into 2 seasons and possibly book 4 as well.  He was saying that if they do that he can catch up with them and get all 7 books out.  Well... that's a lot of if's.

[Addai]

Cancermeat wrote...

i think HBO should have shown 2 episodes because i didnt think the first episode nothing really happened too big. I felt the same way about the first episode of Rome.

Er... you don't think that ending was anything too big?  Or the bit about the Others?  I thought it did all it had to do, an introduction to the world and the major conflicts and characters, and a cliffhanger.