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[thenemesis77]

That would be one hell of a battle, to Have The Warden, Hawke, Morrigan and ol Felmeth battle The Forgotten Ones.

IMO, I think that is where DA3 is going, The Forgotten Ones will get lose and cause all kinds of problems and I think they already have with certain things that have gone on. I want to know what you people think might happen?

I think the idol that was found in the deep roads was put there to keep them under control but now it is out and I think they will be out soon enough as a result of us getting that horride thing.



I also wonder what was plan A that Cassandra and Leliana were talking about, plan B was to find The Warden and Hawke.

[NvVanity]

That's quite a stretch of logic. The only mention of the Forgotten Ones was one of the "Enigma of Kirkwall" entries.

[m3nd3s]

There's also a mention of the Forgotten Ones in the story Merrill tells you about the elven gods. The Creators locked away in heaven, the Forgotten Ones in the abyss, and all that. I don't know about the idol thing keeping them at bay, but something big is surely going to happen involving them. With the way the Imperium was trying to intentionally mess with the Veil, building glyphs into the architecture of Kirkwall, the thousands of blood sacrifices, and the mention made of the Forgotten Ones, it's not too far of a stretch to see them being the big bad.

[Red Panda]

Elven deities attacking my dragon age game?
No, the dread wolf already bagged them and tagged them.
Profane knocking on my door?
Maybe.

[Maria Caliban]

I don't think there's any reason to assume the Creators are good guys. Yes, the elves of Arlathan worshiped them but the magisters of the Tevinter worshiped the Old Gods, who seem to be a distinctly unpleasant bunch.

Maybe the Dread Wolf was doing everyone a favor by locking the two away and letting the elves lose their immorality.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I wish they'd keep those supernatural beings as ambiguous myths and legends and focus more on the "human" down to earth issues and conflicts.

And if they are going to bring them in, they should not replace those issues, but complement them.

[Scnew]

Sounds like a helluva poorly written fan fiction in the making to me.

[Maverick827]

How would the Warden be voiced?

[Denizen89]

I think it will be a war between mages, templars, and the chantry. Tevinter would probably support the mages; albeit some since they war with the Qunari a lot. The wardens i see them becoming the faction trying to keep the war from causing a lot of collateral damage and not to mention darkspawn (depending on awakening.) Now the countries would probably be forced to choose sides between the chantry, templars, and mages. The Warden might have to face Hawke if they play a choice to play either The Warden or Hawke, but I think something else.

[Kinaori]

I would absolutely LOVE to see the Warden and Hawke both in DA3 (especially since my import was with a Mage warden who used her boon to free the Circle and the one I'll use for DA3 has a Mage Hawke that sided with the Mages... could be epic), but the more I think about it the more I suspect they are "gone" just to get them out of the way to make room for a new one. The complexity of making it work with them present makes my head hurt. That would be tough.

Modifié par Kinaori, 06 avril 2011 - 02:52 .

[slipknotsic]

who cares as long as they bring the warden back! so mad hes not in the 2nd and they leave way to mmany things open

[thenemesis77]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I wish they'd keep those supernatural beings as ambiguous myths and legends and focus more on the "human" down to earth issues and conflicts.

And if they are going to bring them in, they should not replace those issues, but complement them.

Thats the one thing I really hate about this game, is they (David) wants to make it about what goes on in the politcal side and down to earth is a sad way to make a rpg, I'am not down with the "days of our lives", soap fest that David likes to write and why does he find that so great......it's not.  You have bland stories and battles and at the end of the game, it's left open. You have great characters but no where to carry them with the story of a soap box, David should have really worked for "day time tv."   Thats the entire reason for Fantasy RPG.......not every day life, man I live that **** every day, I don't play a game for that.   I have to take back that post of him doing any DLC or DA3, eek, it this is the way he would carry the story.

Modifié par thenemesis77, 06 avril 2011 - 10:08 .

[thenemesis77]

Kinaori wrote...

I would absolutely LOVE to see the Warden and Hawke both in DA3 (especially since my import was with a Mage warden who used her boon to free the Circle and the one I'll use for DA3 has a Mage Hawke that sided with the Mages... could be epic), but the more I think about it the more I suspect they are "gone" just to get them out of the way to make room for a new one. The complexity of making it work with them present makes my head hurt. That would be tough.

Yea, it's a easy way for them to write out both and cheap. I find the way they are going with the story and game, to be very simple and just a fast soap box game.   I like both the Warden and Female Hawke, good characters but the story for both is lacking and you have a writer that will not carry over a good main charcter, so whe have both "gone".  

I can tell you this, when they make DA3 with some new person, I'am done. I'am tired of David and his team trying to force us to take on his story of about the world and not the characters, blah to that. When he kicked the "Sand Castle down" it seems it really went down.

[mikx82]

let's not forget commander shepard and the normandy crew.. for some reason they broke the space-time barrier and appeared in Thedas - so the medieval folks thought they were gods.. the forgotten ones...

[D.Sharrah]

Actually...if you have completed all of the side quests in DA:O and DA 2, then you would know that the warden has already defeated one of the forgotten ones (Gaxang the Unbound (sp?)) and that Hawke defeats another (Xenebek (sp?))...so there are only two of the forgotten ones left - Ismaehl (sp?) and "The Formless One". I would not be surprised that if in DA 3 you have the opportunity to battle a third. This may be one of the elements that will help tie all of the games together - but as I have said, it is easy to miss that you have fought them if you do not do all of the side quests.

[Sussurus]

I like the idea of the idea ofgods or ancient powers coming back, spirits and mortals being faced with the same threats.

However not to the gods actually being living solid shapes or have active hands in the players fights.
A war of words and famines, plagues, agents and armies like the first blight and exhalted march.

Kind of how DA:O was handled, the archdaemon is a power and may take the form of a powerful dragon.
That does not make the old gods and arch daemon true gods though, no more than the High dragon was Andraste.

Point being.. a war of faith, of shaping the world or bringing old powers back yes.
Clash of the titans where everything is wrapped up and gods are proved to exist and be good / bad no.

Modifié par Sussurus, 05 mai 2011 - 08:59 .

[BigEvil]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Actually...if you have completed all of the side quests in DA:O and DA 2, then you would know that the warden has already defeated one of the forgotten ones (Gaxang the Unbound (sp?)) and that Hawke defeats another (Xenebek (sp?))...so there are only two of the forgotten ones left - Ismaehl (sp?) and "The Formless One". I would not be surprised that if in DA 3 you have the opportunity to battle a third. This may be one of the elements that will help tie all of the games together - but as I have said, it is easy to miss that you have fought them if you do not do all of the side quests.

You're mistaking the Forgotten Ones (part of the Elven pantheon of gods and trapped in the Abyss by Fen'Harel) with the Forsaken Ones (four powerful demons, two of which can be defeated by the Warden and Hawke in DA:O and DA2).

[Ulicus]

Flemeth: Morrigan, the Forgotten Ones have escaped! Recruit a team of protagonists with attitude!
Morrigan: Aiaiaiaiiii!

[Fast Jimmy]

Going back to the Forsaken Ones, is it possible that Flemeth could be the Formless One? Maker knows she hops from body to body, and is known for her shape-shifting...

[D.Sharrah]

BigEvil wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Actually...if you have completed all of the side quests in DA:O and DA 2, then you would know that the warden has already defeated one of the forgotten ones (Gaxang the Unbound (sp?)) and that Hawke defeats another (Xenebek (sp?))...so there are only two of the forgotten ones left - Ismaehl (sp?) and "The Formless One". I would not be surprised that if in DA 3 you have the opportunity to battle a third. This may be one of the elements that will help tie all of the games together - but as I have said, it is easy to miss that you have fought them if you do not do all of the side quests.

You're mistaking the Forgotten Ones (part of the Elven pantheon of gods and trapped in the Abyss by Fen'Harel) with the Forsaken Ones (four powerful demons, two of which can be defeated by the Warden and Hawke in DA:O and DA2).

Take a look at this site: http://greywardens.c...ma-of-kirkwall/

There is no reason that the "forsaken ones" as you call can not be "the forgotten ones"...as we know, things in the DA universe are often the same even if referred to by different names in each culture, ie Flemeth.

[D.Sharrah]

My last post being said...I think that the force that is described in the "Enigma of Kirkwall" entries may in fact be the pride demon faced at the end of the Arwegian (sp?) Scrolls Quest...

[jonesd]

Morrigan in her DLC suggests that Flemeth will be an enemy at some point, which is where I'm leaning. My guess is that Flemeth and/or Morrigan make their appearance at the end of DA3 for a cliff hanger to DA4. It's possible they put it all in one game, but that is my guess is:

DA3 = Mage/Templar war in some way
DA4 = Flemeth/Morrigan

[TheNecromencer]

The return of the mighty Cthulhu!