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[Shacary]

Im gonna sound bad but... I thought mb that was just in character for zev. He's a playah... I was never sure what he would do without my warden present,,, and he may not ever even think it was cheating... I mean from the way he was raised... Now AListair , Ya im ticked only SHe has a name and nothing else?

[ejoslin]

Shacary wrote...

Im gonna sound bad but... I thought mb that was just in character for zev. He's a playah... I was never sure what he would do without my warden present,,, and he may not ever even think it was cheating... I mean from the way he was raised... Now AListair , Ya im ticked only SHe has a name and nothing else?

See, that's the problem with Zevran's cameo -- it really is not in character if he fell in love with the warden.  He changes so significantly when he falls in love; he's the one who requires a commitment before he'll even touch the warden.  He's the one who starts associating sex with love and if the warden doesn't return the feelings or cannot give the same level of commitment, Zevran actually breaks up with them.  His romance has such an unexpected conclusion.  It's worse than just not acknowledging the romance, it's completely disregarding how it ends.

I am glad it's a bug.  I hope it gets fixed.  Or that a toolset is released.  Or both.

[Shacary]

hmm, mb i will finish m y zev luv play thru, it was on xbox tho and when i finally got ht epc version i didnt want to repeat same story so to speak, That being said Zevran was one of my favorites and was my b/f's. he laughed all the time , called him the smart mouthed one.... i think they may have been related.... except for the ears....

[ejoslin]

Shacary wrote...

hmm, mb i will finish m y zev luv play thru, it was on xbox tho and when i finally got ht epc version i didnt want to repeat same story so to speak, That being said Zevran was one of my favorites and was my b/f's. he laughed all the time , called him the smart mouthed one.... i think they may have been related.... except for the ears....

Zevran is bugged to hell unfortunately, so a couple of his romance dialog do not trigger (which ones depend on which bug you hit).  Here's him dumping the warden if they think a proposal is taking things too far.  With one bug, that whole scenario doesn't play (his status doesn't update to love).  If his status does update, you get the wrong dialog at the gates.  There are plenty of other bugs of his as well (his bugs were what got me started modding).

He changes so much  The way his cameo is bugged does his romance a complete disservice.  Especially since the lines that are supposed to trigger are so awesome!  

Edit: You know, I'm not even sure why it bothers me so much. *sigh* true fangirlism I suppose.

Modifié par ejoslin, 06 avril 2011 - 11:12 .

[Gilsa]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

King Alistair has a few lines based on the Warden relationship too. Also, Isabela has a (bugged) line that doesn't appear but should if Alistair joined the threesome.

Isabela: So you're a king, now? My, something new to brag about!
Alistair: Isabela. Yes, I remember you.
Isabela: I suppose borrowing you for the summer is out now?

Married to Fem Cousland:
Alistair: Well, I suppose I should get back to the old ball and chain.
Teagan: You know, the queen hates it when you call her that.
Alistair: No she doesn't. Just because she killed an Archdemon... she doesn't scare me.
Teagan: You keep telling yourself that, Your Majesty.

Warden is the Mistress:
Alistair: Well, I suppose we should be getting back.
Teagan: The Grey Wardens are waiting for you in Denerim.
Alistair: With more questions, I'll bet. Lovely.
Teagan: Indeed. You-know-who should already have returned from her mission.
Alistair: Is she? Well! Let's not tell the queen, then.
Teagan: Wouldn't dream of it, Your Majesty.

Or, if Alistair became king alone:
Alistair: Is she? Well! The day's looking up already.

No romance, but Alistair still king:
Alistair: Well, I suppose we should be getting back.
Teagan: We should. The Hero of Ferelden should be back in Denerim by now.
Alistair: You're always so formal. S/he has a name, you know.

@hoorayforicecream -- Thanks for sharing! I'm curious if drunk + romanced Alistair has any extra lines. I'm pretty sure the romance got cut off at Landsmeet when he walked out, but I've never really known for sure one way or another how the flags for that scenario were actually handled. I was surprised to see him blaming Morrigan instead of the warden in the bar. (Not complaining! =p)

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Warden is the Mistress:
Teagan: Indeed. You-know-who should already have returned from her mission.
Alistair: Is she? Well! Let's not tell the queen, then.

Cheeky monkey.

[hoorayforicecream]

Gilsa wrote...
@hoorayforicecream -- Thanks for sharing! I'm curious if drunk + romanced Alistair has any extra lines. I'm pretty sure the romance got cut off at Landsmeet when he walked out, but I've never really known for sure one way or another how the flags for that scenario were actually handled. I was surprised to see him blaming Morrigan instead of the warden in the bar. (Not complaining! =p)

I don't think he has anything romance-related. However, he has some different lines, depending on the events of DA:O. Here's what he says as a drunk (companion talk is if they are present):

Alistair: I am a prince of Ferelden, I'm telling you!
Isabela: He keeps saying that.
Alistair: That's because it's true!
Anders: I think it is true, actually.
Aveline: He... does look a little like King Cailan.
Isabela: Well, he was a prince in bed. That's all I remember. (If she had a threesome)
Isabela: Well, now he's a drunk in a bar in the ass end of Kirkwall. But aren't we all?
Alistair: Just leave me alone. I've had enough of people like you. You're all the same.

Choice:
Hawke: Keep a lid on it, "prince."
Alistair: Right, I'll shut up. Don't speak out! Don't tell anyone that a traitor should die, oh no.

Hawke: Are you okay?
Alistair: No, not okay! Worse than okay. Disgraced traitor, that's what I am.

Hawke: How about I buy the next one?
Alistair: I don't need another drink. Okay, maybe I do. But just one. Or two.
Isabela: Now you've done it. He'll keep on like this all day.

Alistair: You sound like Morrigan.

Not sure where these go, but they're also more talk from Alistair. I think they are timed banters or maybe you click on him and he says things? I don't know.

Alistair: It should have been me. Not Loghain! (if Loghain died to kill Archdemon)
Alistair: I can't believe Loghain's still alive. He should have hanged! (if Loghain lived)

Alistair: Stupid Grey Wardens and their stupid rituals. (generic one I guess?)
Alistair: Why does anyone take the Joining anyway? What are the Wardens good for?
Alistair: Just a stupid club, that's what it is. Everyone hanging around, talking about their taint.
Alistair: Well, I don't need it.
Alistair: That's right. I said it.

Alistair: I failed you, Duncan. I'm so sorry.
Alistair: This is all Morrigan's fault. I know it!
Alistair: Just leave me alone.

Act 2 (Teagan's arrival):

Alistair: Yes, I'm still here! What do you want from me?
Teagan: So you are here.
Alistai: Go away, Teagan.
Teagan: That's enough, Alistair. I think you've wallowed in self-pity long enough, don't you?
Alistair: And what am I supposed to do?
Teagan: Start again. Come with me. Back to Ferelden.
Alistair: Sighs

[Gilsa]

All right!! Thanks a bunch for taking the trouble to type that all up.

I recognize the banters so yes, clicking on Alistair will get the grousing lines. Isabela's threesome comments were new to me and it was interesting to see the different lines on whether Loghain lived or not. I was never a Teagan fangirl, but he scored big points in my book for asking Alistair to come home with him.

[LT123]

I've been a fan of Teagan ever since he verbally smacked down Loghain and Anora in his first cutscene, so I'm looking forward to seeing him with drunk Alistair.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

If you didn't romance him in Origins there should have been an option to conceive his love child as Hawke.