So for the first time, I adjusted my ending of Sheperding Wolves so the Qunari died first, and I used the control rod to free Ketojan and speak with him a bit before he incinerated himself. Dude immolated himself without a sound, and his final, and possibly first conversation he's ever had was cool too. I can only wonder at how few Qunari mages become abominations if they have so much discipline, both self and external, but boy, having a badass Qunari mage in my party would have been cool as hell. We can has a Saarabas party member in DA3, please?
Ketojan was hardcore, damn I wish we'd gotten him in party...
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 05:50
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I wanted to give the poor man a hug so badly. What a mess. It's the kind of outcome that makes you kind of sad and happy at the same time and all you can really say is "well, I'm glad I was there".
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 07:10
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He was supposed to be a companion in the early stages of the development of the game, but the devs abandoned the idea.
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 07:28
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a female qunari companion would be nice. don't know about the romance doh.
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 09:42
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brain_damage wrote...
He was supposed to be a companion in the early stages of the development of the game, but the devs abandoned the idea.
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
whyyyyyyy it could have been awesome
well you can always hope for dlc
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 09:45
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brain_damage wrote...
He was supposed to be a companion in the early stages of the development of the game, but the devs abandoned the idea.
No he wasn't.
I think you're mixing him up with Jowan or something.
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 09:52
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I thought Ketojan was pretty awesome too and during my first playthrough I was hoping he would be a companion after the quest but sadly not. A Qunari companion for hawke in DA 2 would have been very interesting.
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 10:00
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brain_damage wrote...
He was supposed to be a companion in the early stages of the development of the game, but the devs abandoned the idea.
Source?
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 10:01
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I love this character. I loved this side quest, easily one of the best in the game.
But I think the point of the character would be lost if he was a companion. I think it's similar to the treatment the Gray Wardens got in this game. They're Outside of us and it makes them almost unknowable.
He exists to show us about the treatment of mages by the Qunari and how devoted the Qunari are to the Qun. To continue on would prove that the Qun can easily be ignored (even Tal-Vasoth seem to regret and despair at the fact that they're honorless). We learn much about the Qunari from this mission and the affect of watching him kill himself was 100 times more emotional than anything we could have done with him as a companion.
I believe there's always room for a Qunari companion to show us more about their people....but in this case we needed to see something as an outsider to truly grasp how they're perceived not how they're explained.
But I think the point of the character would be lost if he was a companion. I think it's similar to the treatment the Gray Wardens got in this game. They're Outside of us and it makes them almost unknowable.
He exists to show us about the treatment of mages by the Qunari and how devoted the Qunari are to the Qun. To continue on would prove that the Qun can easily be ignored (even Tal-Vasoth seem to regret and despair at the fact that they're honorless). We learn much about the Qunari from this mission and the affect of watching him kill himself was 100 times more emotional than anything we could have done with him as a companion.
I believe there's always room for a Qunari companion to show us more about their people....but in this case we needed to see something as an outsider to truly grasp how they're perceived not how they're explained.
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 10:11
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I hope I'm not the only one who prefers to tell those qunari "suck it, I won't let you torture one of your own even if he agrees with it" and cap their asses.
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 10:16
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I handed him over. The Qunari can do whatever they want as long as they leave Kirkwall alone. If he wanted to be killed, then he was too far gone to bother with.JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...
I hope I'm not the only one who prefers to tell those qunari "suck it, I won't let you torture one of your own even if he agrees with it" and cap their asses.
Oh and I was also thinking he'd be a companion. Actually, the first time I did this, I made the mistake of mentioning I was a mage, and the Qunari attacked me immediately. It wasn't until the second time I saw this that I even knew the Sarabaas wanted to die by their hand... whoops.
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 10:21
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brain_damage wrote...
He was supposed to be a companion in the early stages of the development of the game, but the devs abandoned the idea.
Really? During that quest I was thinking, "Oh yes, oh yes, secret companion," but, you know what happened.
I found the end of that quest SO sad.
I'd really like that other Tal'Vashoth deserter guy, who can end up in The Hanged Man to be DLC questing content. He said something like "You can't hire me now, but I'm a mercenary." Maybe in the future.
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 10:26
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Firky wrote...
brain_damage wrote...
He was supposed to be a companion in the early stages of the development of the game, but the devs abandoned the idea.
Really? During that quest I was thinking, "Oh yes, oh yes, secret companion," but, you know what happened.
I found the end of that quest SO sad.
I'd really like that other Tal'Vashoth deserter guy, who can end up in The Hanged Man to be DLC questing content. He said something like "You can't hire me now, but I'm a mercenary." Maybe in the future.
He also names himself.
It's quite obvious he'll be back in DLC or DA3.
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 10:27
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Foolsfolly wrote...
He also names himself.
It's quite obvious he'll be back in DLC or DA3.
Yes! He does too.
Excellent. *rubs hands together*
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 11:08
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genocidal villain wrote...
a female qunari companion would be nice. don't know about the romance doh.
Doubt we'll ever see female Qunaris, unless they're Tal'Vashoth :T
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 11:19
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That scene was cool all over anyway. The music that played on the background after the fight and when you walked down the path with Ketojan. I definitely support this idea of getting a Saarebas companion in DA3. Oh I realise there's lore and blah blah... Dudes, BioWare, with what you did to mages, you owe us a little in-story excuse to arrange this paragon of coolness into our parties in the future. 
Oh you don't owe us anything?
Well, pretty please then?
Seriously though. I miss the heck out of Sten, and a Saarebas with their unique selection of spells and that hardcore attitude, that sounds like a working theme for some manly fanservice to me.
Oh you don't owe us anything?
Well, pretty please then?
Seriously though. I miss the heck out of Sten, and a Saarebas with their unique selection of spells and that hardcore attitude, that sounds like a working theme for some manly fanservice to me.
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 11:40
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I wanted to give the poor man a hug so badly. What a mess. It's the kind of outcome that makes you kind of sad and happy at the same time and all you can really say is "well, I'm glad I was there".
"Well, I'm glad I was there, watching a man burn himself to death... It's moments like these that make me reflect on the human state of affairs and on life itself. Maybe i'll go for some vanilla ice cream, possibly with chocolate bits on it."
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 01:08
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He did not want to die. He wanted to live by the Qun. There is a world of a difference.Icy Magebane wrote...
I handed him over. The Qunari can do whatever they want as long as they leave Kirkwall alone. If he wanted to be killed, then he was too far gone to bother with.JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...
I hope I'm not the only one who prefers to tell those qunari "suck it, I won't let you torture one of your own even if he agrees with it" and cap their asses.
Oh and I was also thinking he'd be a companion. Actually, the first time I did this, I made the mistake of mentioning I was a mage, and the Qunari attacked me immediately. It wasn't until the second time I saw this that I even knew the Sarabaas wanted to die by their hand... whoops.
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 01:37
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I am saying it now! Female Qunari mage for DA3/DLC/Expack!
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 02:20
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Another dumb Qunari, a slave to a weird and useless premise that slots beings into certain situations and makes them useless or not worthy if they stray from that path on purpose or by accident even a little.
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 02:31
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Killer3000ad wrote...
I am saying it now! Female Qunari mage for DA3/DLC/Expack!
Female Tal-Vashoth mage please. A Qunari would just immolate herself
And yes. I support that. Just like I support a female Tal-Vashoth romance. Let me be Captain Kirk and show that poor woman what that thing is the humans call love
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 03:00
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Ketojan and/or Maaras would have made awesome companions. I was really disappointed that you couldn't convince either of them to join you. I can only tolerate a couple of my companions to begin with,so the thought of having two silent types sounds like a dream come true.
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 03:01
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TobiTobsen wrote...
Killer3000ad wrote...
I am saying it now! Female Qunari mage for DA3/DLC/Expack!
Female Tal-Vashoth mage please. A Qunari would just immolate herself
This.
It would be too epic for words.
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 03:06
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TobiTobsen wrote...
Killer3000ad wrote...
I am saying it now! Female Qunari mage for DA3/DLC/Expack!
Female Tal-Vashoth mage please. A Qunari would just immolate herself
And yes. I support that. Just like I support a female Tal-Vashoth romance. Let me be Captain Kirk and show that poor woman what that thing is the humans call love
I approve this message!
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Posté 06 avril 2011 - 03:48
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Orion34 wrote...
TobiTobsen wrote...
Killer3000ad wrote...
I am saying it now! Female Qunari mage for DA3/DLC/Expack!
Female Tal-Vashoth mage please. A Qunari would just immolate herself
And yes. I support that. Just like I support a female Tal-Vashoth romance. Let me be Captain Kirk and show that poor woman what that thing is the humans call love
I approve this message!
Yeah, this!
