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[EmperorSahlertz]

Tal-Vasoth wouldn't join anyone else than another Tal-Vasoth either. They are still bound by the learnings of the Qun, they just want to find their own path. The only ones who would join us, are the mercenaries we encounter.

[Miashi]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Tal-Vasoth wouldn't join anyone else than another Tal-Vasoth either. They are still bound by the learnings of the Qun, they just want to find their own path. The only ones who would join us, are the mercenaries we encounter.

Tal-Vashoth is not a clan, it's a title (True Grey), a Qunari that no longer follows the Qun. Therefore, a mercenary is a Tal-Vashoth.

[EmperorSahlertz]

No he is not. The Tal-Vasoth refuses to stoop so low as to sell the last part of their soul for gold. They instead raid and loot for their supplies. The mercenary Qunari we encounter explains as much. Tal-Vashoth is a "title" of sorts, not just a name applied to all outcasts.

[The Angry One]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Tal-Vasoth wouldn't join anyone else than another Tal-Vasoth either. They are still bound by the learnings of the Qun, they just want to find their own path. The only ones who would join us, are the mercenaries we encounter.

You know I don't get this. How are these two things remotely compatible?
The philosophy of the Qun seems to be entirely about purpose, and your path being laid out for you.

It's like saying you follow Christianity but don't accept that Jesus Christ is your saviour.

Modifié par The Angry One, 06 avril 2011 - 04:24 .

[EmperorSahlertz]

You could argue that they find their purpose in opposing the Qun. I don't know.

[Herr Uhl]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

No he is not. The Tal-Vasoth refuses to stoop so low as to sell the last part of their soul for gold. They instead raid and loot for their supplies. The mercenary Qunari we encounter explains as much. Tal-Vashoth is a "title" of sorts, not just a name applied to all outcasts.

The Tal-Vashot aren't an organization. It is like saying that all atheists have the same set of values.

[Trophonius]

Wish we could recruit him, but he made it ostensibly clear that adhering to the Qun is more important to him than resisting abuse and challenging the maltreatment of every Saarebas.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Herr Uhl wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

No he is not. The Tal-Vasoth refuses to stoop so low as to sell the last part of their soul for gold. They instead raid and loot for their supplies. The mercenary Qunari we encounter explains as much. Tal-Vashoth is a "title" of sorts, not just a name applied to all outcasts.

The Tal-Vashot aren't an organization. It is like saying that all atheists have the same set of values.

For the Kossith, Tal-Vasoth is a philosophical state of being, so to speak. They are dead to the Qun. A Kossith mercenary is not dead to the Qun, he is a living insult. Tal-Vashoth are not mercenaries.

Modifié par EmperorSahlertz, 06 avril 2011 - 04:32 .

[Herr Uhl]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

The Tal-Vashot aren't an organization. It is like saying that all atheists have the same set of values.

For the Kossith, Tal-Vasoth is a philosophical state of being, so to speak. They are dead to the Qun. A Kossith mercenary is not dead to the Qun, he is a living insult. Tal-Vashoth are not mercenaries.

Tal-Vashoth are the violent defectors. Vashoth is defectors. Qunari couldn't care less about the difference between one group of Tal-Vashoth and another.

[sphinxess]

Icy Magebane wrote...

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

I hope I'm not the only one who prefers to tell those qunari "suck it, I won't let you torture one of your own even if he agrees with it" and cap their asses.

I handed him over.  The Qunari can do whatever they want as long as they leave Kirkwall alone.  If he wanted to be killed, then he was too far gone to bother with.

Oh and I was also thinking he'd be a companion.  Actually, the first time I did this, I made the mistake of mentioning I was a mage, and the Qunari attacked me immediately.  It wasn't until the second time I saw this that I even knew the Sarabaas wanted to die by their hand... whoops.

I love how the Qunari think even hearing a Saarabas speak can pollute them. I imagine my Mage Hawke running around town trying to get into a conversation with one and then saying at the end "by the way I am Saarabas"

[sphinxess]

sphinxess wrote...

Icy Magebane wrote...

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

I hope I'm not the only one who prefers to tell those qunari "suck it, I won't let you torture one of your own even if he agrees with it" and cap their asses.

I handed him over.  The Qunari can do whatever they want as long as they leave Kirkwall alone.  If he wanted to be killed, then he was too far gone to bother with.

Oh and I was also thinking he'd be a companion.  Actually, the first time I did this, I made the mistake of mentioning I was a mage, and the Qunari attacked me immediately.  It wasn't until the second time I saw this that I even knew the Sarabaas wanted to die by their hand... whoops.

I love how the Qunari think even hearing a Sarabaas speak can pollute them. I imagine my Mage Hawke running around town trying to get into a conversation with one and then saying at the end "by the way I am Sarabaas"

[The Angry One]

I think it's cute the way they react to mages.
Like the leader of the group Orisino attacks at the end of act 2. "Saarebas!!!"

[Lasien]

bennyc72 wrote...

Orion34 wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

Killer3000ad wrote...

I am saying it now! Female Qunari mage for DA3/DLC/Expack!

Female Tal-Vashoth mage please. A Qunari would just immolate herself

And yes. I support that. Just like I support a female Tal-Vashoth romance. Let me be Captain Kirk and show that poor woman what that thing is the humans call love

I approve this message!

Yeah, this!

We'll need some restraints, though. How strong are Quinari females? Would rope work, or do we need steel straps? Could you bite through wood? Oh! And I need to find a hot poker somewhere, just in case you get too ardernt, my darling Saarebas!     

 If you don't get it, you don't know Morrigan or Sten...

[Fruit of the Doom]

One thing that I have been wondering:

What exactly did Ketojan do to the thug who was about to murder-knife Hawke?

It looked like he completely vaporized him with some sort of blue/grey flame.


I WANT THAT SPELL!

Modifié par Fruit of the Doom, 25 avril 2011 - 02:13 .

[TobiTobsen]

All the Sarebaas have some pretty hardcore force spells. I want to copy them with my Hawke

[Fruit of the Doom]

PurebredCorn wrote...

jmadsen wrote...

brain_damage wrote...

He was supposed to be a companion in the early stages of the development of the game, but the devs abandoned the idea.

http://www.noooooooooooo.com/

whyyyyyyy it could have been awesome

*cries*
This makes me sad. *cries more* OH, KETOJAN! *cries even more*

... I liked Ketojan.

Bioware nobley sacrificed him, along with unqiue environments and shirtless Fenris, so they could give us a myriad of epic sidequests.  Like finding a bottle of wine and bringing it to a vintner.  And finding someone's lost pantaloons...

[/vehement sarcasm]

Modifié par Fruit of the Doom, 25 avril 2011 - 02:37 .

[Fruit of the Doom]

PurebredCorn wrote...

Fruit of the Doom wrote...

PurebredCorn wrote...

jmadsen wrote...

brain_damage wrote...

He was supposed to be a companion in the early stages of the development of the game, but the devs abandoned the idea.

http://www.noooooooooooo.com/

whyyyyyyy it could have been awesome

*cries*
This makes me sad. *cries more* OH, KETOJAN! *cries even more*

... I liked Ketojan.

Bioware nobley sacrificed him, along with unqiue environments and shirtless Fenris, so they could give us a myriad of epic sidequests.  Like finding a bottle of wine and bringing it to a vintner.  And finding someone's lost pantaloons...

[/vehement sarcasm]

*cries even MORE*
... wait, did you say shirtless Feris? ...:crying::crying::crying:

Yes.  According to Gaider, he requested the art team to make him but they responded by telling him they would need to cut something else.

Lazy bums. 

[Roxlimn]

Love how Bioware handled exposition of the Qun and Saarebas in this manner. So much better than talking about it at camp with a Qunari companion. Not that I'm against a Qunari companion.

[ACdeakial]

I wonder how they would implement a Sareebas into your companion group? I got the impression from ketojan that he was content with his fate, like most qunari, he knew his place. And Tal-Vashoth are more interested in being bandits than anything else, so maybe we'll encounter a Meraas type qunari who has seen both sides, and wants neither, instead wanting to forge their own place in the world.

[TEWR]

Miashi wrote...

genocidal villain wrote...

a female qunari companion would be nice. don't know about the romance doh.

Doubt we'll ever see female Qunaris, unless they're Tal'Vashoth :T

I would definitely want to have a female Kossith Saarebas/Tal-Vashoth companion. If she's Tal-Vashoth, maybe she left the Qun because she wanted to be a warrior.

[GodLikeDevil]

Saarebas, the Arishok, all the main Qunari Hawke encounters have several things in common: they have that warrior-philosopher bent about them, and they are pretty bad-ass. I really wish you could have Saarebas Ketojan and the Arishok as possible companions, it would have been interesting.

[LilyasAvalon]

There were rumours that Ketojan WAS actually supposed to be in the party and I was just OVER THE MOON about this because the Qunari are one of my most favourite races in Thedas. If this rumour was true, that means Ketojan Companion idea was abandoned which just makes me even more disappointed in the devs.

Seriously, I want my Qunari companion.

[Ulicus]

Ketojan and his quest were fantastic. And the ending if you "save" him was... I don't know if it was beautiful or horrifying, but it was very, very good.

I'm not sure he'd have worked as a party member given his character, though.

Modifié par Ulicus, 25 avril 2011 - 05:16 .