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Yahtzee (Zero Punctuation guy) talks about Dragon Age 2 Homosexuals


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randName wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...
Do you honesty think a straight male would start a thread saying anders or fenris is ugly to them? If so, also I'm pretty sure there were threads saying anders looked different although I don't know if a male or female did.


I really wonder were you are coming from, since when is it wrong for straight men to talk about how other men look? For one we (as a straight male) already care about how other men look, since we want to fit in, and stand out. So we observe other man and will judge our own looks based on that, and esp. will we look at men that are successful with those that we want to be successful with, so men that go home with the ladies we want to go home with are copied and taken after, men that behave in ways we want, we copy and ape, its human nature, and most, if not all straight men does this already.


I really wonder were you are coming from, I was saying in general you won't see a straight male whining about another male companions looks on these forums, not in general life think.

Modifié par PlumPaul82393, 06 avril 2011 - 04:03 .


#102
DraCZeQQ

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Its ok to be gay!



#103
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Oh, Yahtzee, you charismatic stallion!

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Romances are so common in bioware game now a days that its become boring from my point of view.

I get more excitement getting something to eat then watching pixels face-hugging each other.

If they wanted to improve their game they should throw romances in the trash and focus on creating a story worthy of their fans.

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Mlaar wrote...

You can repeat this over and over as much as you like and in day to day life yes I accept this But... At the end of the day this is a game thier is no need for it to happen, All that has come of it infact is to create an issue out of nothing 


So you objected when Isabela invited you to her room at the Hanged Man at the end of her quest? Just curious.

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I do not think Yahtzee´s opinion is of any particular importance - we should all be mature enough to have our own opinion, and on account of his reviews i don´t particularly like his one - but for what it´s worth, I agree with him.

He makes many good points, especially THIS

The long and the short of it is, if you honestly can't find something beautiful in the self-sacrificing devotion between two people just because they're both trouser-wearers, then I pity you, I really do.

deserves a QFT.

I´ve got one question though:

By my count, as a male protagonist, there are three girls you can mess around with

Who´s the third?

Modifié par Tirigon, 06 avril 2011 - 04:53 .


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Pacifien wrote...

Do try to keep the topic focused on Dragon Age versus, say, your ideas of how it should be in the real world that Dragon Age is not.


I agree, even though I had to re-read that three times before it made sense.

LyndseyCousland wrote...

The topic is now Yahtzee.
I love Yahtzee.
I want to be Mrs Yahtzee.



....uh.


YAHTZEE YAHTZEE YAHTZEE! Yes, I did just quote myself.
I think anyone who gets offended by him are obviously taking him far too seriously.

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utenanon wrote...

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im okay with gay ppl having their romance, doesnt mean it has be shoved into my face.

!support Nogayromance on/off button.


i'm ok with straight ppl having their romance, doesnt mean it has to be shoved in my face.

!support Nostraightromance on/off button.

OH HEY, LOOK. IT WORKS BOTH WAYS.
How about you just stop being homophobic?


How about you learn proper English and stop butchering the word "xyzphobia" to mean "people who disagree with me?
Also, yes, have a toggle button for hetero and ****** romances so I can turn both off and not have to put up with bioware's laughable, poorly written offscreen sex simulators disguised as "romance".

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The market for all romances is too large.

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I still fail to see on how this is still an issue.

If you're uncomfortable with other men (in a GAME no less) hitting on you, that's your failing, not the game developers who are trying to keep their cliental content. Gay guys in games and real life have gotten hit on by girls all the time and they don't whine about it, heck some go along with it for the LULZ. All that they ask is some inclusiveness and I think that Bioware making most of the companions Hawke-sexual is a great idea; so everyone wins.

Modifié par Jademoon121, 06 avril 2011 - 05:26 .


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Ya know, "I'm ok with X, I just don't want to ever see it and want to be able to remove it from my experience" pretty much means "I'm not ok with X" with a lie attached.

Especially since all it takes for homosexuality to be "shoved in your face" is a dude opening up about his troubles, and then asking if he made you uncomfortable by sharing.

Hell, without the heart icons, I woulda thought it was a bromance. "Yo bro, tell me all about this crazy ass glowing eye shizzle."

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Dark83 wrote...

Ya know, "I'm ok with X, I just don't want to ever see it and want to be able to remove it from my experience" pretty much means "I'm not ok with X" with a lie attached.

Especially since all it takes for homosexuality to be "shoved in your face" is a dude opening up about his troubles, and then asking if he made you uncomfortable by sharing.

Hell, without the heart icons, I woulda thought it was a bromance. "Yo bro, tell me all about this crazy ass glowing eye shizzle."


So if it weren't for the heart you'd end up in a surprise gay romance? Great writing as usual, Bioware.

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Isn't wanting to not see homosexuality in the game your problem, not the game's problem?

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Darth Executor wrote...

So if it weren't for the heart you'd end up in a surprise gay romance? Great writing as usual, Bioware.


Wouldn't that black heart icon qualify as exactly the toggle button you're looking for?

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Tirigon wrote...

I´ve got one question though:

By my count, as a male protagonist, there are three girls you can mess around with

Who´s the third?


Aveline, but you only get to first base, sort of.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

Darth Executor wrote...

So if it weren't for the heart you'd end up in a surprise gay romance? Great writing as usual, Bioware.


Wouldn't that black heart icon qualify as exactly the toggle button you're looking for?


No.

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such a fun read, thank you for the link!

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Russalka wrote...

Isn't wanting to not see homosexuality in the game your problem, not the game's problem?


You misunderstand. I don't want to see ****** poor dialogue and hamfisted references for the sake of fan service/gaider's social crusade. If homosexuality was in the game as a relevant part of a well written storyline (either primary or secondary) you would, in all likelihood, get no complaints. As it stands, "romance", both homosexual and heterosexual, is bloody awful and a net negative for the game as a whole. There's porn movies with better story and dialogue out there. So no, not wanting to see homosexuality in this particular game is not my problem. Quite the opposite, it is a sign of sophistication, intelligence and good taste. It is the people going "hurr durr I wanna bang pixelated characters" and the developers who cater to those tastes that have problems, not me.

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Darth Executor wrote...

Russalka wrote...

Isn't wanting to not see homosexuality in the game your problem, not the game's problem?


You misunderstand. I don't want to see ****** poor dialogue and hamfisted references for the sake of fan service/gaider's social crusade. If homosexuality was in the game as a relevant part of a well written storyline (either primary or secondary) you would, in all likelihood, get no complaints. As it stands, "romance", both homosexual and heterosexual, is bloody awful and a net negative for the game as a whole. There's porn movies with better story and dialogue out there. So no, not wanting to see homosexuality in this particular game is not my problem. Quite the opposite, it is a sign of sophistication, intelligence and good taste. It is the people going "hurr durr I wanna bang pixelated characters" and the developers who cater to those tastes that have problems, not me.


Then why not start a thread called "BW Should Get Rid of All Romance", instead of deciding a thread about homosexual romance is the right place to discuss this?

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Darth Executor wrote...

Russalka wrote...

Isn't wanting to not see homosexuality in the game your problem, not the game's problem?


You misunderstand. I don't want to see ****** poor dialogue and hamfisted references for the sake of fan service/gaider's social crusade. If homosexuality was in the game as a relevant part of a well written storyline (either primary or secondary) you would, in all likelihood, get no complaints. As it stands, "romance", both homosexual and heterosexual, is bloody awful and a net negative for the game as a whole. There's porn movies with better story and dialogue out there. So no, not wanting to see homosexuality in this particular game is not my problem. Quite the opposite, it is a sign of sophistication, intelligence and good taste. It is the people going "hurr durr I wanna bang pixelated characters" and the developers who cater to those tastes that have problems, not me.


You hardly have to suffer more than a line, or possible two, from all potential LIs in any BioWare game, normally you even have to initiate it (DA:O was bad when it came to ninjamancing on the other hand).

So just tell the companions that do flirt to go and **** themselves ~ and you are in the clear.

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catabuca wrote...

Darth Executor wrote...

Russalka wrote...

Isn't wanting to not see homosexuality in the game your problem, not the game's problem?


You misunderstand. I don't want to see ****** poor dialogue and hamfisted references for the sake of fan service/gaider's social crusade. If homosexuality was in the game as a relevant part of a well written storyline (either primary or secondary) you would, in all likelihood, get no complaints. As it stands, "romance", both homosexual and heterosexual, is bloody awful and a net negative for the game as a whole. There's porn movies with better story and dialogue out there. So no, not wanting to see homosexuality in this particular game is not my problem. Quite the opposite, it is a sign of sophistication, intelligence and good taste. It is the people going "hurr durr I wanna bang pixelated characters" and the developers who cater to those tastes that have problems, not me.


Then why not start a thread called "BW Should Get Rid of All Romance", instead of deciding a thread about homosexual romance is the right place to discuss this?


Because I am responding to posts here. If you don't like it feel free to skip past mine.

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reduce the blatant homosexuality, it's unrealistic. i want to play a game, not a GAYme...

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winterborn_89 wrote...

reduce the blatant homosexuality, it's unrealistic. i want to play a game, not a GAYme...


I bet that those 20 seconds it took for you to repell Anders really ruined the game for you ~

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randName wrote...

winterborn_89 wrote...

reduce the blatant homosexuality, it's unrealistic. i want to play a game, not a GAYme...


I bet that those 20 seconds it took for you to repell Anders really ruined the game for you ~


Probably took longer to come up with that terrible pun than that.

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Darth Executor wrote...

Russalka wrote...

Isn't wanting to not see homosexuality in the game your problem, not the game's problem?


You misunderstand. I don't want to see ****** poor dialogue and hamfisted references for the sake of fan service/gaider's social crusade. If homosexuality was in the game as a relevant part of a well written storyline (either primary or secondary) you would, in all likelihood, get no complaints. As it stands, "romance", both homosexual and heterosexual, is bloody awful and a net negative for the game as a whole. There's porn movies with better story and dialogue out there. So no, not wanting to see homosexuality in this particular game is not my problem. Quite the opposite, it is a sign of sophistication, intelligence and good taste. It is the people going "hurr durr I wanna bang pixelated characters" and the developers who cater to those tastes that have problems, not me.


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