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Okay so I'd like to know how did a high dragon and all the little dragonlings, get to the bone pit and destroy the bone pit, without being seen by anyone? Considering we got rid of the dragons in Act 1 where did it come from? Is this ever explained or is it something that's swept under the rug?

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Either she flew there or the workers opened up new passages into her underground lair.

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Got a text message from the other dragons saying they were under attack.

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Duhhh, they teleported there using space magic.

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Well it's good to know it's never explained in game. Bioware was horrible with logic in DA2 but really this was stupid.

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It . . . um . . . FLEW.

The dragonlings rode in its pouch. Dragons are marsupials.

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PsychoBlonde wrote...

It . . . um . . . FLEW.

The dragonlings rode in its pouch. Dragons are marsupials.


Flew from where? and I didn't know a dragon could carry 30-40 dragonlings Image IPB, really all of it is just illogical, wouldn't have been bad if it was just the high dragon but the amount of dragonlings/dragons and the high dragon was BS.

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Hawke's dragon-extermination effort was not thorough enough in Act 1. And perhaps dragons are more fecund than we think.

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PlumPaul82393 wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

It . . . um . . . FLEW.

The dragonlings rode in its pouch. Dragons are marsupials.


Flew from where? and I didn't know a dragon could carry 30-40 dragonlings Image IPB, really of it is just illogical, wouldn't have been bad if it was just the high dragon but the amount of dragonlings/dragons and the high dragon was BS.


The High Dragon brought a dragon-o-matic, from the same fine suppliers of Kirkwall's reliable bandit-o-matic and the new improved abomination-o-matic.

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Is this really "stupid?" Dragons can't talk, all the workers died, Hubert couldn't get anything out of the mule, it's perfectly reasonable to have the High Dragon's appearance unexplained. Pests appear as if from nowhere all the time, I can understand why you'd be curious about where it came from but it's definately not stupid that it remains unexplained.

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I love fighting him first thing upon getting Act 3, actually, for the Armour of the Champion.

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sammcl wrote...

Is this really "stupid?" Dragons can't talk, all the workers died, Hubert couldn't get anything out of the mule, it's perfectly reasonable to have the High Dragon's appearance unexplained. Pests appear as if from nowhere all the time, I can understand why you'd be curious about where it came from but it's definately not stupid that it remains unexplained.


well it would be kindda hard not to see a giant dragon in the sky flying thats why I think it's stupid. PS does anyone know an easier way to defeat it? I beat it but it took 30 minutes and I had to continually spam healing and 2 of my companions died early on, I had no problems with any of the fights until this one.

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At least on Normal, it's fairly easy. Get a fire resist rune for all party members so that you don't have to worry about fireballs in the adds phase. In the adds phase stack everyone up and aoe all the dragons down. Make sure your tank has Stonewall and a mage with Barrier doesn't hurt. I think that's pretty much all you "need" I found Isabela more of a hinderance than a help the time I used her, since she keep backstabbing then getting owned by the tail, so maybe bench her for this fight.

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Well, I suppose it was there the whole time, underground just like the mature dragon was. Too bad for the poor fellow who pulled his pickaxe out of the rock to see this thing staring back at him through the hole.

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sammcl wrote...

At least on Normal, it's fairly easy. Get a fire resist rune for all party members so that you don't have to worry about fireballs in the adds phase. In the adds phase stack everyone up and aoe all the dragons down. Make sure your tank has Stonewall and a mage with Barrier doesn't hurt. I think that's pretty much all you "need" I found Isabela more of a hinderance than a help the time I used her, since she keep backstabbing then getting owned by the tail, so maybe bench her for this fight.


Sadly I had to use her because I'd prefer not to lose attack speed if I loaded a game without her in my party (annoying bugs!), also I played on normal and like I said took me 30 minutes about how much was it for you? Also I used anders and aveline as my last companions and all I gotta say is should I switch anders out for fenris? The recharge on healing and his low amount of health makes him somewhat useless because he dies so fast, although haste is nice.

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Filament wrote...

Well, I suppose it was there the whole time, underground just like the mature dragon was. Too bad for the poor fellow who pulled his pickaxe out of the rock to see this thing staring back at him through the hole.



That would make some since because the amount of smaller dragons was huge

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I think my fastest attempt was 2H Hawke, Tank Fenris, Varric and Isabela at about 10-15 minutes. I've never really gone into that fight trying to beat it quickly though, I just take my standard party. I didn't need a healer with that group, if Fenris's potions/Stonewall were cooling down I'd have Hawke taunt and Stonewall, Anders had left the party anyway : /

Kick Anders out for Varric if you're a warrior or Fenris if you're a rogue/mage.

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sammcl wrote...

Is this really "stupid?" Dragons can't talk, all the workers died, Hubert couldn't get anything out of the mule, it's perfectly reasonable to have the High Dragon's appearance unexplained. Pests appear as if from nowhere all the time, I can understand why you'd be curious about where it came from but it's definately not stupid that it remains unexplained.



Pests?  A High Dragon and 200 dragonlings count as pests?  Mice, giant spiders..those ugly cockroaches that make noise..those are pests.  A High dragon showing up is like Air Force one touching down.  They're rare.  One popping up out of nowhere...yep..that's stupid.

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Just because something is rare doesn't mean it can't appear unnoticed, the chances of that happening a lot are low but this is 1 High dragon we're talking about, not 10 High dragons popping up at mines all over Thedas : / I don't think I've actually said this, but I assumed it was hidden somewhere in the mine and the miners disturbed it, just like the dragons in act 1 and the spiders in act 2.

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Much of the bonepit has been in disuse for centuries, plus one of the codex entries specificly mentions that the quary got its name from a Tevinter Overseer who's favorite passtime was feeding slaves to his pet dragonlings. In other words the dragons were there the whole time, the miners were just unfortunate enough to disturb them.

Besides you should have known a High Dragon was in the area after the first quest. Baby dragons don't just spring up out of holes in the ground dwarves. I mean maybe you haven't had, "the talk" yet, but you can't have babies without a mommy, and thats exactly what a High Dragon is.

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 A wizard did it.

/End thread.

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Actually the overseer dude that wants you to clear the spiders and undead and buy the pickaxes says something like "the heat in the mine is rising again. just like when the first dragon appeared" after doing all the act II bone pit stuff.

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Watch the start of the movie Reign of Fire. There you go. Seriously, not a bad film either, blew my friends mind when he actually heard what Christian Bale normally sounds like.

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The Angry One wrote...


The High Dragon brought a dragon-o-matic, from the same fine suppliers of Kirkwall's reliable bandit-o-matic and the new improved abomination-o-matic.


And all this time I thought the Kirkwall (and surrounding environs) bandits rapelled down from CIA Black Helicopters.

Personally, I think it's like the story of the warriors who rose from the dragon teeth Cadmus planted.  You know, only in reverse.

Plant dragon teeth to get humans, plant human teeth (from all those miners that kept dying, seemingly as some kind of dark-comic relief) to grow dragons.

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it wasnt really a high dragon. its was obviously just flemeth having some fun with an xtra body. who knows how many of those amulets she passed around lothering. the dragonlings were just a lot of the rumored "sisters" of morrigans.

basically its fantasy. dragons are fictional. if you can justify a dragon at all im sure you can conjure up a reason for its presence anywhere, dragonling army in tow and all. just saying. use your imagination. you are, after all, playing a game.